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How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins?
#27125087 - 01/04/21 01:09 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Hm. I'm thinking of this grow kit, in general; sound like a good deal? Here it is: MOD EDIT PLEASE READ THE RULES ANy better suggestions?
Edited by cronicr (01/04/21 01:34 AM)
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Noitartst]
#27125089 - 01/04/21 01:17 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Most suggestions here are going to say DO NOT buy a grow kit. They are expensive and fail very often.
It's recommended to research a few beginner teks here on the forums and then do everything from scratch yourself. That's where most people end up after buying grow kits anyways.
Welcome and good luck to you!
Check out The Noob Forum here.
It has everything you need to know to get started on your own.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: tiptrippy]
#27125155 - 01/04/21 03:11 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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What dat guy said^^
If you don’t wanna buy a pressure cooker, I’d check out Etsy and help out some people who might be struggling in these hard times. Get some agar plates and sterilized BRF cakes from a solid vendor. Inoculate several jars then knock up agar plates under sterile conditions. Buy a plastic tote, perlite w/out added nutrients and fruit. EZ PZ.
A few jars will likely contam just because of the difficulty making 100% sterile syringes. Agar will give you an idea of how nasty they are. If your brf cakes work and you wanna go pro, isolate the prettiest, fastest, cleanest agar sections w more agar, knock up some grain (STERILE TECHNIQUE) and once it’s fully colonized, mix with substrate. You can buy grain and substrate from Etsy or recommended vendors page.
Step 3: get schwifty
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Noitartst]
#27125163 - 01/04/21 03:22 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Noitartst said: Hm. I'm thinking of this grow kit, in general; sound like a good deal? Here it is: MOD EDIT PLEASE READ THE RULES ANy better suggestions?
If you are in Europe rather look for a "grow box" which is more or less a BRF cake already colonized by cube mycelium which should grow shrooms in 2-3 weeks after delivery. A cheap one will suffice, but look to get one of a vendor with a good service quality, have a look at the forum sponsors and/or do your search here in the forum to see which vendor tends to replace failed grow kits. Just don't forget to make a spore syringe and/or a clone to agar from fruits of the box
If you are on the other side of the pond and you are referring to a grow kit where you get a bag of grains and a MS syringe, you are probably better of to follow the common advice to not buy it.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125197 - 01/04/21 04:05 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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DONT BUY A GROW KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
simply look upbthe words grow kit in the search engine on here and just look at the track record those damn things have. you cant get easier than the pf tek is suggest that as thats all those damn things are anyway. the only difference is if u do it urself it will most likely work. all u gtta do is follow instructions. if u can make mac n chz of the box instructions u can do this. all threads here about muh growkit are along the lines of whats wrong why is this not working followed by someone tellin them all they have is a bacterial glazed brick of mold🤷🏼
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Noitartst]
#27125233 - 01/04/21 04:37 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'd use the money for a grow kit to buy a cheap pressure cooker instead, that's what I did. Then, I save money by recycling used food jars, I've done pf tek, and grains to bulk this way. You can even do agar no pour in recycled jars. A cheap tube of silicone, and some polyfill for injection ports and filtered air exchange on the jars, a clear tote for a still air box, then some materials like agar, grains, and coir, and you're pretty much set once you get your hands on some spores. Search "grow kits" with the search bar and you'll see how many times people fail with grow kits. The time you would waste watching a grow kit fail and asking loads of questions here would be better used reading up on teks and understanding the life cycle of mushrooms, sterile technique, and contamination issues. The money you'd save will buy you things which you can use over and over so you can actually get into the hobby, instead of buying expensive grow kits, never getting any results, then giving up frustrated and fruitless. Listen to the people here, they have your best interests at heart. ✌️&❤️
Edited by HappinessStan (01/04/21 04:43 AM)
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: HappinessStan]
#27125236 - 01/04/21 04:41 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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perfect example in just a cpl threads above why not to buy them damn things. ar least every week we have someone on here just like that wonderin whats wrong hell u dont even need a pc for pf tek although its a better choice id do as what he said and take that $ and do if properly and then ul be set up for dirt cheap good grows the rest of ur life most likely
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
#27125285 - 01/04/21 05:22 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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It's a taboo here to find them to be legitimate at all...
But people denying them the most are probably also the ones that are most far away from understanding the overwhelming feeling of a noob wanting to start somewhere as soon as possible.
I bought one and it got me like 20g cracker dry shrooms and plenty of experience. Also I got a print and therefore spore syringes out of it, which I would have needed to buy anyway paying 20EUR for a syringe of 30EUR for a box. It's not much of a difference considering what you get (box, substrate, someone already inoculated it and even support in cases they fail being it your mistake or the vendor's)
I bought a MSS afterwards from a vendor knowing, that I don't really need it, just for the sake of actually knowing what it is about and how good or bad they really are
In the end you gonna buy one or not, we can't avoid to make all mistakes. They are a part of the journey ^^
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125292 - 01/04/21 05:31 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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And I totally agree with what is said here or somewhere else in the forum regarding to toss away the instructions and look up what you are doing here.
In the end the grow boxes are intended for making people keep on buying them, only few salesman will ever tell you the truth about how to get the most out of a product, otherwise they wouldn't make any money in the future. That doesn't mean the product itself is bad.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125296 - 01/04/21 05:34 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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well we are a very generous bunch here and anyone that shows a legit interest in doing things correctly and themslves will have no issue at all getting free prints from members of this community. we encourage ppl to do things themselves as its the best learning experience you can get. but 20 grams isnt even an ounce and homestly u may as well just have bought them outright from a dealer. and its true there is a learning experience to be had but i promise you that the learning experience afforded by reading and studdyin the proven teks here and investing in the materials and taking the time to do things on ur own will be 10 fold what u will get by them kits. hell for every 1 kit that goves a whole 20grams i promise there is at least 25 that dont produce anything but a green slimy science project
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125297 - 01/04/21 05:35 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Shroombitz said: It's a taboo here to find them to be legitimate at all...
But people denying them the most are probably also the ones that are most far away from understanding the overwhelming feeling of a noob wanting to start somewhere as soon as possible.
What, you think we just fell out our moms vaginas knowing how to grow and never had to experience this? Most of the cautionary responses are from people who've used kits and got burned.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620] 1
#27125300 - 01/04/21 05:36 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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the product isnt bad
its fucking horrific
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
#27125309 - 01/04/21 05:43 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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jcm4620 said: well we are a very generous bunch here and anyone that shows a legit interest in doing things correctly and themslves will have no issue at all getting free prints from members of this community. we encourage ppl to do things themselves as its the best learning experience you can get. but 20 grams isnt even an ounce and homestly u may as well just have bought them outright from a dealer. and its true there is a learning experience to be had but i promise you that the learning experience afforded by reading and studdyin the proven teks here and investing in the materials and taking the time to do things on ur own will be 10 fold what u will get by them kits. hell for every 1 kit that goves a whole 20grams i promise there is at least 25 that dont produce anything but a green slimy science project
20g and the experience is just a bonus for getting into it and proof that they aren't shit. Someone else could have probably made more out of it, by not doing the mistakes I did. Or what is it that you want to say? Are you telling people they shall buy black market stuff?
One can't trade (or get into the trade forum) before 90 days after creating the account and asking for free stuff is against the rules...
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
#27125312 - 01/04/21 05:45 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Shroombitz said: It's a taboo here to find them to be legitimate at all...
But people denying them the most are probably also the ones that are most far away from understanding the overwhelming feeling of a noob wanting to start somewhere as soon as possible.
What, you think we just fell out our moms vaginas knowing how to grow and never had to experience this? Most of the cautionary responses are from people who've used kits and got burned.
Did you ever buy a European grow box as a first time grower? If not what's your point?
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125320 - 01/04/21 05:49 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Did you ever buy a European grow box as a first time grower? If not what's your point?
No, I didn't, because I live in the US.
But since you asked, I guess my point could boil down to the fact this is a forum for CULTIVATION and following the instructions on a kit isn't really what we do here. It's not unlike going into a martial arts dojo to ask how to use a gun.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
#27125322 - 01/04/21 05:52 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Shroombitz said:
Did you ever buy a European grow box as a first time grower? If not what's your point?
No, I didn't, because I live in the US.
But since you asked, I guess my point could boil down to the fact this is a forum for CULTIVATION and following the instructions on a kit isn't really what we do here. It's not unlike going into a martial arts dojo to ask how to use a gun.
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Inocuole said:
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Shroombitz said:
Did you ever buy a European grow box as a first time grower? If not what's your point?
No, I didn't, because I live in the US.
But since you asked, I guess my point could boil down to the fact this is a forum for CULTIVATION and following the instructions on a kit isn't really what we do here. It's not unlike going into a martial arts dojo to ask how to use a gun.
Those boxes seem to be something completely different to whatever you get in the US.
As I said above, don't follow the instructions, but if you do buy a box like that do your job and learn how to CULTIVATE starting from a colonized box and meanwhile learn how to CULTIVATE with say PF-TEK and do that after you got your first fruits...
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125328 - 01/04/21 05:59 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Back to topic, OP as you see no one here will advise you where to buy your supplies as cheap as possible.
The sponsors are probably a decent point to start, even if some do dislike them here despite them paying to operate this site
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
#27125329 - 01/04/21 05:59 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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I know they're not the same. I know what comes in euro grow kits. And yes, they are significantly better than what you get here if you want actual product in your hands. Most of us don't post here to put mushrooms in people's hands though, we post to teach people how to grow.
I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying, I get that some people just want results fast. When I first started, I wanted results fast. But how quickly someone wants results has never been a factor here.
If you wanna talk about kits, a cultivation forum might not be the best place. Like a pc building forum isn't the best place to ask about laptops. Like a dojo isn't the best place to ask about firearms. Like a culinary academy isn't the best place to ask about microwave dinners. I could go on. I won't. But I could.
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
#27125334 - 01/04/21 06:03 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Inocuole said: I know they're not the same. I know what comes in euro grow kits. And yes, they are significantly better than what you get here if you want actual product in your hands. Most of us don't post here to put mushrooms in people's hands though, we post to teach people how to grow.
I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying, I get that some people just want results fast. When I first started, I wanted results fast. But how quickly someone want results has never been a factor here.
If you wanna talk about kits, a cultivation forum might not be the best place. Like a pc building forum isn't the best place to ask about laptops. Like a dojo isn't the best place to ask about firearms. Like a culinary academy isn't the best place to ask about microwave dinners. I could go on. I won't. But I could.
Getting a print or clone tissue from a mushroom, making syringes, agar, LC or whatever out of it, for me, is cultivation, no matter how one got hands on the fruit in the first place. But that's just 
If a mod decides to move it to "Getting started" or whatever so be it
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
#27125335 - 01/04/21 06:04 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Inocuole said: Most of us don't post here to put mushrooms in people's hands though, we post to teach people how to grow.
This point is lost on some people I think. This is a board that focuses on cultivation teks.
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