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Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip?
    #27124624 - 01/03/21 07:42 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

My new roommate has a lot of mushrooms, and we had talked for a couple weeks about me tripping on mushrooms to help with my anxiety disorders, hopefully having some great insights that could help me and journaling it to send to my therapist. I take 4mg of klonopin per day, but after doing some research I found that benzos could dull the trip or even prevent it, so I only took 1mg of klonopin yesterday (which I consider a low dose) before taking the mushrooms to just be cautious, but still have a good trip.

However, 1mg of klonopin prevented me from tripping. Everything was trippy, I was feeling the music and everything more, but I was definitely not hallucinating at all or on a trip. I felt like I was ready to blast off, but the klonopin was holding me down to earth. It was like being high on shrooms. My roommate told me that the 2.5 grams of cubensis I had taken should have sucked me in to a trip and I would know fully that I was tripping. I also remember taking shrooms when I was 18 and on no medications and the extreme mind altering trips I had, which I was not experiencing. We tried adding 1.5 more grams of some stronger mushrooms of a different species, but still it just felt like I was intensely high on mushrooms, not tripping, no insights or anyway to learn anything about my life. A pleasant experience, but not what I was looking for.

So my question is, if I take no klonopin for a full day will that allow me to trip? I know that the half-life of klonopin is 12 hours, so there still will be some klonopin in my system even if I do that. Would that remaining klonopin in my system affect the mushrooms? I also take 4mg of risperidone (an anti-psychotic) at night, which I plan on not taking the night before, because I know that also can kill trips. Could that also have had a dampening effect on tripping, and would there be enough lingering risperidone in my body to ruin the trip even if I abstain from it the night before? I took risperidone the night before yesterday, so I don't know if that had any effect. I just want to really trip to learn and help with my debilitating anxiety, so if someone could give me some advice I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: majere880]
    #27124734 - 01/03/21 08:50 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

Anti psychotics and benzos both dampen trips. Klonopin has a long half life. It's actually much longer than 12 hours, klonopins half life is 30-40 hours. How long have you been taking 4mg of klonopin and have you ever come off for a week? Benzos can cause some pretty nasty withdrawals, that's definitely something to watch out for. If that is a concern you may want to talk to your doctor Do you have any history of psychosis or are you prescribed an anti psychotic for anxiety?


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: Rise against]
    #27124738 - 01/03/21 08:53 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

I've been prescribed klonopin 4mg/day for 5 years now. Yeah I've taken too many and run out before. The withdrawal was absolutely terrible. I could go 2 days without taking klonopin and try to see if I could trip, but I'd probably be pretty anxious before the trip.


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: majere880]
    #27124776 - 01/03/21 09:05 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Pay attention to set and setting. Tripping may not be a very pleasant experience if you are actively going through benzo withdrawals. If you do want to come off it's best to do so under the supervision of a doctor. Benzos withdrawal can potentially cause seizures and other problems.


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: Rise against]
    #27124860 - 01/03/21 09:50 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

I highly recommend talking to your doctor about weaning yourself off the benzos safely. You should not be taking 4mg of klonopin per day. Your doctor is a POS for prescribing that to you long-term. Wow


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: drr]
    #27124887 - 01/03/21 10:14 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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I highly recommend talking to your doctor about weaning yourself off the benzos safely. You should not be taking 4mg of klonopin per day. Your doctor is a POS for prescribing that to you long-term. Wow




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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: drr]
    #27124918 - 01/03/21 10:42 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

I definitely don't plan on being on benzos forever, but I need them right now. I'm trying to get back to work, and my anxiety issues fucking suck. Anyway, back to the point, what can I do to be able to trip?


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: majere880]
    #27124942 - 01/03/21 10:54 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

You won't be able to trip with benzos in your system. There's no way around it.


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: Rise against]
    #27125507 - 01/04/21 07:53 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

I know, but how long would I have to abstain from Klonopin to have the Klonopin out of my system enough to trip?


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: majere880]
    #27125585 - 01/04/21 08:41 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

if the half life is really 30-40 it would seem like you'd at least need 2-3 days. idk if withdrawals would set in though. Your best bet might be to just take a higher dose, but I'm not completely sure


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: majere880]
    #27125590 - 01/04/21 08:46 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Just be careful when stopping your benzos. It's nice to be eager to trip and have fun/learn with mushrooms, but sudden withdrawal is awful. Slow withdrawal is still unpleasant. You need to taper slowly and safely while checking in with yourself regularly. Once you've been totally off the benzos for a few days and your head is in a good enough place, THEN trip.


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: Tom66]
    #27126825 - 01/04/21 06:22 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Why are you on a large dose of benzos and on anti-psychotics I assume there is a reason for it?
If you go off this meds yourself and have almost none of them in your system anymore I would guess there is a rebound effect and on top of that you want to trip on psychedelics. This could be highly problematic!

You need to get off your meds with your doctor, which I guess will take a long time, before you can think about anything like that.
Maybe you should never trip since you were probably put on anti-psychotics for a reason.


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Re: Daily benzo user- How can I get the benzos out of my system enough to trip? [Re: LittleBoard]
    #27126844 - 01/04/21 06:31 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

I didn't even notice he was on anti-psychotics. Good eye, dude. I have to second you there. Little Board. OP should definitely talk to a medical professional before they try this


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    #27126991 - 01/04/21 06:31 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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majere880 said:I also take 4mg of risperidone (an anti-psychotic) at night



Risperidone:
Antipsychotic
It can treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and irritability caused by autism.


You need to talk to your doctor about your desire to trip and your medication.

Furthermore the purpose of these boards is for harm reduction so I am going to lock this thread.


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