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Re: the world is very weird [Re: laughingdog]
    #27134173 - 01/07/21 10:16 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Just tacking some food for thought onto the end of the thread friend. Maya isn't really "an illusion" unless it's seen to be the whole when it's only half.


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: laughingdog]
    #27134198 - 01/07/21 10:36 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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1) What do you think you are being trained for?

2) if things are not quite real here (due to its being a training ground), what makes you think your idea of what yourself is, is correct?

3) what makes you think the endless, instant satisfaction of all desire, is desirable? This is after all the dream of all junkies, and makes all activity pointless, as all junkies know.

4) as they have said for maybe thousands of years: "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." or "Look before you leap." etc. Or all the fairy tales where caution is suggested when being offered wishes.




1) compassion and LOVE, goes for all individuals.

2) Everything here is tangible and has an end, thru hope and faith, the mind and subconsciousness of the :heart:hearth:heart: is not bound by spacetime I beleive.

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3) I do get from where your coming at with that compassionate heart equipped with a harm reductionist mind for others,
It feels not so good of a pleasure and too painful having a need to repeat this life with the same and repeating instances over and over again :crazy: :crazy:

I would love to graduate without those excess emotional baggage(fear, hate, remorse etc.) from within that would manifest instantly(can imagine) in the other side, or add to it an attached reliance of those MERE tools (substance nor penny/MONEY) of this tangible plane.

never again I would be a slave of that mere stress ball of mine.



4) thanks for the reminder and that enlightening questionnaire ma friend :heart:

I trully value your Thoughtful Post.

Great topic by the way.
Shalom, Love Speed :heart::heart:


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: Rahz]
    #27134221 - 01/07/21 10:55 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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Just tacking some food for thought onto the end of the thread friend. Maya isn't really "an illusion" unless it's seen to be the whole when it's only half.





hmm.. I've learned a something new. thanks for brining this up.
its very logical & thats a good point of view. :strokebeard:


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #27134231 - 01/07/21 11:03 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

And where would anyone be without illusion?


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27134250 - 01/07/21 11:17 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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And where would anyone be without illusion?




since we are all here no one has the big grand picture of it, but I Guess the ancients left us some slightest clues, in a place of contentment and JOY that we are all BUTTERFLIES never wanting to leave that state..


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: Rahz]
    #27134565 - 01/08/21 06:37 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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From Wikipedia: "The Upanishads describe the universe, and the human experience, as an interplay of Purusha (the eternal, unchanging principles, consciousness) and Prakṛti (the temporary, changing material world, nature).[36] The former manifests itself as Ātman (Soul, Self), and the latter as Māyā."

Yogapedia explains Purusha:

"Classical yoga is a dualistic philosophy where the universe is envisioned as a combination of perceivable material reality (prakriti) and non-perceivable, non-material laws and principles of nature (purusha). Prakriti is everything that has changed, can change, and is subject to cause and effect. Purusha is the unchanging and uncaused Universal Principle.

In yoga, purusha also references the true Self -- the realization of which is a goal of yoga practice as defined in "The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali." It is also the ultimate goal of all Vedic practices and Vedantic philosophy, examination and inquiry.

In Hinduism, purusha is a very complex term and has diverse meanings. There is no consensus among different schools of Hinduism on the precise definition of purusha, and it is left to each school and individual to reach their own conclusions.

In the Upanishads, the concept of purusha evolved to denote an abstract essence of Self and Spirit, as well as the eternal, indestructible, all-pervasive Universal Principle. Although there are a variety of views held in different schools of Hinduism about the definition, scope and nature of purusha, many of them agree that it is what connects everything and everyone."




this is a Prakṛti-cal view of the universe in simple terms.


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27134655 - 01/08/21 07:52 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #27138487 - 01/09/21 08:54 PM (3 years, 19 days ago)

I can vouch for the safe training ground idea.

Would you ever consider the possibility that you can instantly regenerate?

Try to think outside the context of history and the status quo.


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #27138631 - 01/09/21 10:04 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

In your dreams.  :cheers:

By Instant regeneration...do you mean as in if one gets run over by a vehicle & dies they suddenly find themselves once again embodied anew? 


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #27138895 - 01/10/21 01:55 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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I can vouch for the safe training ground idea.

Would you ever consider the possibility that you can instantly regenerate?

Try to think outside the context of history and the status quo.




good thing you mentioned this, there are scientific studies in regards to this like the discovery of neurons located in the heart, telomere regeneration by telomerase and much more. it is well documented and recorded more than 5k year ago thru teachings about our individual inner technology that is worth tapping to, even without the privilege of advance tools at that age that are now present to us today, as young 300 year old science is starting to prove slowly that all of this is unexplainable phenomenon awhile back then are plausible.

I had that idea and the same feelings & intuition a while back then. regeneration thru heart-brain coherence & mind harmony, feelings of empathy compassion & love against all odds are one of the keys in this training ground. A kind of BEING - practiced by our ancestors e.g.. Gautama. one of the greatest quote that I find amusing and demands great resilience is "love even thy enemies by Christ". one of the deep reason for that commandment I see is the presence of mirror neurons. it has its up and downs, imagine someone playing a beautiful guitar chords in front of you and suddenly along the way you felt your the one playing the guitar, feeling the same serenity as the Real guitarist playing the instrument. On the other hand imagine a angry person yelling at you while you start to build up the same feeling of anger, then later on learing to just listen calmly and reflect. By that healing our selves thru this deep positive emotions also heals others same goes with the opposite side of spectrum.

mind harmony and those positive serene emotions opens up a new level of brain state which is not quite written on textbooks the gamma state which is more faster & more compressed according to CT scans. Tibetan monks are able to achieve this state thru mediation for that regulated body function on  demand.


if we exist in the others side and this side simultaneously, that's one of the reasons we are here. to train & to regenerate or replenish specially on the other side although not biologically but at a deeper level - ENERGETICAL LEVEL. speaking of instantly, remember that time or a day here is very different in the other side, could be a second or a blink of an eye there according to relativity. and speaking of Q.entanglement every present process, feelings, emotion in this plane mirrors our progress in the other side as it reflect back here to US like a hologram.

the notion of "from the moment we are born we began to die" is a wide spread thinking as a reference to the aging process. but I do find a consequence of that notion and way of thinking, that we probably would never consciously inflict in ourselves, because our bodies responds to those kinds of thoughts.
the new science is telling US something different. its is more accurate to say that "from the moment we are born we began to heal"
there is a huge difference between the thoughts of life, when we come to this world as a finite of experience, that we use up gradually overtime versus the thought of life as a living entity that is always constantly regenerating, rejuvinating and healing itself.
as I believe, We are all just spacedust traveling temporarily on this earth not for indulgence but for a defined purpose - a goal beyond this plane.


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #27138952 - 01/10/21 03:05 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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pacmanbreed said:
...We are all just spacedust traveling temporarily on this earth not for indulgence but for a defined purpose - a goal beyond this plane.





Seems no matter how many times Self is transcended, the duality of morality seen thru, and meaning seen to be relative and context dependent, they all raise their heads again as soon as one blinks.
Seems these notions are all much more addictive than Heroine.

Hence there are over 4000 religions:

"How Many Religions Are There in the World?
Search domain www.reference.com/world-view/many-religions-world-8f3af083e8592895https://www.reference.com/world-view/many-religions-world-8f3af083e8592895
.  There are an estimated 4,200 different religions in the world, ..."  ... and almost all with the certainty of having all the important answers.
(    Pretty much only some Taoism and Zen acknowledge paradox and humor, among the big religions.  Although some folk and pagan religions have tricksters and so on)
.  The greek Gods were fantasized as having human motivations and follies, and of course the Biblical God was portrayed as both vengeful and cruel.
.  Seems  humans will believe about anything. Exactly as the horse says of Dogs:



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Re: the world is very weird [Re: laughingdog]
    #27139052 - 01/10/21 05:24 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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pacmanbreed said:
...We are all just spacedust traveling temporarily on this earth not for indulgence but for a defined purpose - a goal beyond this plane.





Seems no matter how many times Self is transcended, the duality of morality seen thru, and meaning seen to be relative and context dependent, they all raise their heads again as soon as one blinks.
Seems these notions are all much more addictive than Heroine.

Hence there are over 4000 religions:





a nourishment for some, the paradox is it can also be considered as a hard to swallow red pill for some individuals suffering material indulgence.

4k religion is :thumbup: can't agree more.
specially the young founded major groups together with their young practices with their bigger loyal en mass, unfortunately leaded by the same dogs who loss its keen sense of smell & is vomiting due to the fullness of its stomach, the humour is it cannot smell itself nor distinguish itself while its text books reference speaks of it. less capital with high profit, its all about business as usual.

anyway, still optimistic that some dogs who are lost in the wilderness away from their alpha dogs, are regaining their keen senses while being all by themselves specially during this times.


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Re: the world is very weird [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #27139122 - 01/10/21 07:23 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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anyway, still optimistic that some dogs who are lost in the wilderness away from their alpha dogs, are regaining their keen senses while being all by themselves specially during this times.



yes


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