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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #27125826 - 01/04/21 10:53 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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https://mobile.twitter.com/SamBraslow/status/1345916823951167488

The police dont even make an attempt to enforce the mask order in LA




The gyms are the worst. Most of these gym owners need to be tossed in jail. They don’t give a flying fuck about anyone else. It’s all about the money.


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: koods]
    #27125838 - 01/04/21 10:57 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

This one is funny and disturbing.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1345916985926795270


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: koods]
    #27125875 - 01/04/21 11:10 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Bias/discrimination is certainly a problem in the medical industry just like any other part of society. It's far from perfect but improving over time, just like any other part of society. There are people in the medical industry who care more and people who care less just like any industry.

I would just encourage everyone not to respond to discrimination BY healthcare workers WITH discrimination AGAINST health care workers. Like everyone else, each of us is a unique individual. That you had a nurse in the past who made you feel less than human as a result of your addiction does not (legitmately) license you to begin every interaction with every nurse thereforward as though they think of you as being less than human.




One piece of advice I have for addicts is to be honest. We know there are lots of opioid and alcoholics addicts out there. I've been one. Yeah, some us are more judgmental of opioid addicts than say, for example, obese people with binge eating disorder without, shall we say, justifiable cause. However, more than anything I think nurses get exasperated with being lied to. If you're opioid dependent and you're going to be staying in the hospital under the care of a nurse for a while 99 out of 100 of those nurses will WANT you to be getting opioids- even if they aren't sympathetic to your suffering, they don't want to put up with trying to treat an actively withdrawing addict. If someone vocalizes an opioid dependence here in the big city hospital I work at, almost nobody I know would hesitate to communicate that information with the doctor, not so that we can put you on a "list of drug seekers", but so they can ensure that you get some methadone or suboxone for you and make your (and our) experience less intolerable, and so, if, for example, you suddenly need emergency surgery, we don't give you a dose of anesthesia that is too low for you, causing you to wake up mid procedure. Some opioid dependent people come in seeming to "expect" that they are just going to be served up as much dilaudid as they want, and just because that isn't the case doesn't mean we are "discriminating" against them for "being drug seekers". We will treat your symptoms, but getting you high on your drug of choice just because you don't like not being high on your drug of choice is not in our job description.


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27126082 - 01/04/21 12:33 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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This one is funny and disturbing.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1345916985926795270



"COME ON PATRIOTS" is my favorite part


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: lavod]
    #27126490 - 01/04/21 04:00 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Everyone has their breaking point. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but that EMT may have been burned out, and tired of trying to save people who almost always go right back to killing themselves. Heroin addicts are people too, but if you have to save someone's life once a week, at some point you start saying "whats the fucking point?"




The problem here is that his opinion was based on generalized personal prejudice rather than unbiased assessment. I have never been addicted to heroin and, although I would sample IN heroin on occasion prior to this incident, ODed my first and only time IVing it. Anyone ODing should be given the same treatment, whether a homeless addict or a first timer, but the point is that his opinion was based upon judgmental malice towards anyone with enough opiation in their system to OD. And those with judgmental opinions have a tendency to abuse their given 'powers' beyond the strictures ov their lawful capacity once given the opportunity to do so(police, clergymen, mental institution and prison/jail staff, politicians, et cetera).




I'm not saying you're wrong about it, but he DIDN'T abuse his given power in that situation, as he did help you. He bitched about it and said something hurtful, but that didn't actually affect his actions.


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: Ima Trooper] * 1
    #27126600 - 01/04/21 04:41 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

It was the last time he IVd heroin, so maybe hearing that had a positive effect


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: koods]
    #27127116 - 01/04/21 09:16 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

lavod:

I'll provide one more anecdote for perspective.

I briefly and stupidly dated a girl about 18 months ago who was a severe alcoholic with a propensity for binging on meth and dope. What can I say, she somehow managed to still be really pretty, wore a dress with long sleeves and hid her use pretty well on the first date, after which we immediately fucked with lights out so I couldn't see her track marks, and at which time I discovered what a ridiculously fantastic lay she was.... before all of the baggage came rolling out. Anyway, I digress- more importantly, in addition to becoming very belligerent, combative, aggressive as a result of drinking, the manipulative behaviors associated with her borderline personality disorder would come roaring out.

She HATED nurses as a result of her experiences overdosing, state that, like you, she felt as though nursing staff didn't treat her like a human being. However, just before the end of our relationship, she got alcohol poisoning and landed in the ER. I spoke with several hospital staff involved in her care- two of whom indicated that they had previously treated her for one kind of overdose or another, one of them saying she had done so on 2 occasions- independently and they  corroborated the same story: when she came to, she ripped the IV delivering fluids out of her jugular (yes, the only vein they could access was her jugular), started screaming,  demanding narcotics (doesn't matter if you're an opioid dependent person, we're not going to give narcotics to a person in the hospital recovering from acute alcohol overdose. That may kill them. This is one instance in which unfortunately the addict will have to suffer through withdrawal, if they happen to be in it, until they are discharged.) They were going to put a 72hr psych hold on her because in her drunken stupor she verbalized a plan to commit suicide, but she left AMA. She claims she "escaped" from the hospital; in reality, the nurses just didn't fight it when they saw her walking out, because a) Her vitals were stable enough that she wasn't in physical danger from the booze anymore and they know that people with BPD frequently use threats of suicide to try to manipulate others (she would go on to do so with me several days later which was the very last straw and b) they knew that dealing with her was going to be a pain in the ass. Is it the right thing to do to let her go? Is it the right thing to do to forcibly detain her?

All I know is that acting like the answers to those and similar questions are straightforward is extremely presumptuous.

I totally agree that medics SHOULD all do their BEST to be compassionate, patient, understanding, and unbiased with ALL patients. Nevertheless, having been on the other side of the fence, I can now sympathize with those medics in a way I couldn't before because I've gained a perspective I didn't have access to before. In my experience, most medics ARE patient, compassionate, understanding, and unbiased with addicts who don't make their jobs a lot harder. It's when they come in doing stuff like what she did that they lose their patience. And yeah, because nurses are humans, some of them suck at not developing biases in response to those experiences: assuming the next person who rolls in unconscious from opioids is gonna pull the same shit, ripping out of IVs, all the jazz. Unfortunately, it's because it happens a whole fucking lot. But not always. Not even half the time. But frequently enough that the experiences burn themselves into your memory forever.

When I overdosed, I was pissed at the nurse, and at that time it seemed to be that I was being judged and mistreated, but I didn't rip my lines out and starting pissing on the floor and knocking over expensive ass infusion pumps. And in restrospect, I realized that, while perhaps I was being judged (who can know?), I don't think anything they did constituted mistreatment. Plus, they saved my life. And now I've done the same for other people several times over. You never know. I love telling my overdose patients a little of my story after they come out of it to try and give them a little bit of hope. usually goes in one ear and out the other but hey. worth a shot


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: morrowasted]
    #27127253 - 01/04/21 11:03 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

So u fucked her?


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Re: "Camp COVID" New York State Assembly Bill A416 [Re: longbus]
    #27127260 - 01/04/21 11:13 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

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all i can say is read the story


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