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OfflineKaeden123

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Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest * 1
    #27124497 - 01/03/21 06:33 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

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Growing on decomposing fir chips/slash pile on pull off of logging road. Coast range oregon, near noti. These 2 species growing right next to each other. I have harvested and positively ID’d pelliculosa from this spot before, and believe I found a few more pelliculosas and another potential Psilocybe that bruises more so than pelliculosa, has a lighter stem, and an oranger and less striate cap, the gills seem much lighter but that could be the age..

Pelliculosas I’ve found there about a week ago here


The 2 types I found today side by side. I believe the one on the left is what I’ve encountered before and refer to as pelliculosa. No noticeable bluing on it as the stem is darker, and has been in the bag for a while at this point, I find with pelliculosas the bluing goes away pretty rapidly as they dry.



Shroomies in question





What I think to be pelliculosa





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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Kaeden123] * 1
    #27124498 - 01/03/21 06:34 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

Yes indeed


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Moria841]
    #27124501 - 01/03/21 06:36 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

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Yes indeed





Do you think they are 2 different species? Any guesses on which is which, or are they both pelliculosa variants?


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Kaeden123] * 1
    #27124511 - 01/03/21 06:40 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

I would say they are both P. pelliculosa


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Moria841]
    #27125030 - 01/04/21 12:07 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

They all look like P. pelliculosa. 

There may be two species going under that name however....


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27125112 - 01/04/21 01:55 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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There may be two species going under that name however....



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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Moria841]
    #27125237 - 01/04/21 04:42 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Yeah the other one is Mycena :robindance:


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27125274 - 01/04/21 05:11 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Yeah the other one is Mycena :robindance:




I don't see any Mycena here.


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27125319 - 01/04/21 05:49 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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There may be two species going under that name however....



I was joking around about this statement


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #27125494 - 01/04/21 07:44 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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There may be two species going under that name however....




That's interesting. Two years back there was a find in Norway of a woodloving, blue bruising Psilocybe that
was sequenced at Alvalab and came out as P. pelliculosa, and I would say it looked quite different from the
ones I see posted on here and MO.

Have many of the PNW finds been sequenced?


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Anglerfish] * 1
    #27126708 - 01/04/21 05:35 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
There may be two species going under that name however....




That's interesting. Two years back there was a find in Norway of a woodloving, blue bruising Psilocybe that
was sequenced at Alvalab and came out as P. pelliculosa, and I would say it looked quite different from the
ones I see posted on here and MO.

Have many of the PNW finds been sequenced?




Do you have the sequence data?

About ten.


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27127213 - 01/04/21 10:22 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

Do the two potential species grow in different habitats or just have slightly different macro characteristics in addition to the potential for unique DNA?


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27128645 - 01/05/21 04:15 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

:popcorn: where's the official pelliculosa thread?


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27129766 - 01/06/21 06:19 AM (3 years, 22 days ago)

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Do you have the sequence data?





I don't have them, unfortunately. I don't know the finder, he is in the eastern part of Norway and
posted the find on a local myco forum and in the Norwegian species database, but only with pictures
and location, no sequence data.

Here's a link to the database pictures:

https://www.artsobservasjoner.no/Image/1247583


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27132030 - 01/07/21 12:27 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Do you have the sequence data?





I don't have them, unfortunately. I don't know the finder, he is in the eastern part of Norway and
posted the find on a local myco forum and in the Norwegian species database, but only with pictures
and location, no sequence data.

Here's a link to the database pictures:

https://www.artsobservasjoner.no/Image/1247583





I spoke with Milan, here's the sequence data.  It does match US P. pelliculosa sequences:

https://mushroomobserver.org/411322


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27132040 - 01/07/21 12:35 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)



wow


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27132078 - 01/07/21 01:11 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

:wat:


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27132173 - 01/07/21 04:12 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

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I spoke with Milan, here's the sequence data.  It does match US P. pelliculosa sequences:

https://mushroomobserver.org/411322




Cool. I didn't realise the find was on MO, thanks for sharing.

Would be interesting to know how this species turned up in Norway, and if it might be spreading here.


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27132275 - 01/07/21 06:32 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

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MadMuncher said:


wow



Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:



I spoke with Milan, here's the sequence data.  It does match US P. pelliculosa sequences:

https://mushroomobserver.org/411322




Pretty amazing the diffence in macroscopic appearance even within the same patch.


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Re: Pelliculosa and similar looking possible Psilocybe?! IDRequest [Re: Kaeden123]
    #27132378 - 01/07/21 08:01 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

Such strong blueing in the 3rd pic!


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