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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Nitrojedi]
    #27123452 - 01/03/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Nitrojedi said:
there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.




Ten posts, and he not only knows there was too much cheating, one of his other nine was carbon dioxide playing no role in climate change. I may have found a new plaything.

Actually the mention of demographics was OK. All the groups expected to vote Democratic did, but other than blacks they voted Dem a little less than predicted.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods]
    #27123465 - 01/03/21 09:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
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Nitrojedi said:
there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.




Exit polls are surveys of people who just voted. You’re saying that they managed to not only fake the vote tallies, but they also managed to get fake voters to give fake answers to pollsters standing in front of the polling station




I like the managed to get fake voter to give fake answers. Wish I thought of that.

I just got home after 10 hours of partying so fair warning I might say something stupid before my sleeping pills kick in.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #27123493 - 01/03/21 09:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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It's really hard to relate to people who are intellectually that inferior.





Dammit sir, you will try  :emotionalmoment:


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods]
    #27123591 - 01/03/21 10:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

Nitrojedi said:
there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.




Exit polls are surveys of people who just voted. You’re saying that they managed to not only fake the vote tallies, but they also managed to get fake voters to give fake answers to pollsters standing in front of the polling station





Its funny..it's laughable that you think because I've been here 9 days that I'm new to the world and that you are automatically intellectually superior to me .  The truth is Biden supporters are far more strident then Trump supporters.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods] * 1
    #27123675 - 01/03/21 11:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

Nitrojedi said:
there was too much cheating going on to really know much about the true demographics of the 2020 election.




Exit polls are surveys of people who just voted. You’re saying that they managed to not only fake the vote tallies, but they also managed to get fake voters to give fake answers to pollsters standing in front of the polling station




Wait till you hear about the multiple states, during the democratic primary, in which exit poll disparities against the reported vote tallies were large enough to merit election fraud according to the UN.


Eh but that’s about team blue so probably a Russian hoax.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27123757 - 01/03/21 12:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

For anyone curious:



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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27123788 - 01/03/21 12:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Why are exit polls thought to be reliable in general though? Is it always a safe assumption that someone who voted for candidate x is just as likely to participate in an exit poll as someone who voted for candidate y?


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: psi]
    #27123877 - 01/03/21 12:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You ask a fair question, but it seems to me with all the Bernie shaming that was going on, people would be less inclined to admit they voted for Bernie.  :shrug:


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27123891 - 01/03/21 01:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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psi said:
Why are exit polls thought to be reliable in general though? Is it always a safe assumption that someone who voted for candidate x is just as likely to participate in an exit poll as someone who voted for candidate y?




That’s why there’s a margin of error, like any poll. But yes, exit polls are extremely reliable, we use them to call elections all the time.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You ask a fair question, but it seems to me with all the Bernie shaming that was going on, people would be less inclined to admit they voted for Bernie.  :shrug:




If that was the case then the numbers are even worse.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27123900 - 01/03/21 01:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

and remember that the sars hit us right after super tuesday


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: cannabinated]
    #27123902 - 01/03/21 01:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

while bernie was dealing with senate stuff


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27123922 - 01/03/21 01:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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psi said:
Why are exit polls thought to be reliable in general though? Is it always a safe assumption that someone who voted for candidate x is just as likely to participate in an exit poll as someone who voted for candidate y?




That’s why there’s a margin of error, like any poll. But yes, exit polls are extremely reliable, we use them to call elections all the time.




This article suggests that younger voters are significantly more likely to participate in exit polls than older voters are.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/upshot/exit-polls-and-why-the-primary-was-not-stolen-from-bernie-sanders.html


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27123925 - 01/03/21 01:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
For anyone curious:






This looks like a Sydney Powell production. I know for a fact that Massachusetts data is wrong. I’m not gonna waste my time fact checking the rest.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: cannabinated] * 2
    #27123929 - 01/03/21 01:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I’ve heard the idea that impeachment was finally put forward in order to keep Bernie in DC so Biden could campaign, but I don’t really buy that, nor do I buy that the COVID outbreak was some deliberately released virus in order to control people.

Outright vote stealing notwithstanding, it was clear from the beginning that the establishment candidates would all eventually drop out and coalesce around a single candidate in order to stop Bernie. After Biden overperformed in SC (maybe), Obama called all the other candidates and made sure they understood to get behind Joe. Everyone except Warren drops out (because she actually takes votes from Bernie so she stays in), and then Biden overperforms on Super Tuesday. A day later the national media begins calling on Sanders to drop out or else people will die.


Honestly don’t see what’s so difficult for people (Enlil, koods) to grasp about the idea that a political party largely controlled and run at the behest of the corporate ruling class would deliberately derail attempts to further a political agenda that runs against the interests of said ruling class. Other corporations do this every single day, it’s their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. The Democratic Party is no different, they just need to devote a little more attention to public relations.


You’d think a message board centered around psychedelics would be able to elevate itself beyond the red vs blue bullshit. At least before Trump psychosis took over and half the people here were rabid racists we could at least have larger discussions about the role of the state relative to the world at large, the utility of borders and citizenship, etc.

Now it’s just “trump did X” “no he didn’t” “this YouTube video proves team blue is demons” “no it doesn’t”


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods]
    #27123932 - 01/03/21 01:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
For anyone curious:






This looks like a Sydney Powell production. I know for a fact that Massachusetts data is wrong. I’m not gonna waste my time fact checking the rest.




Oh well. Back to the important work of saying “trump is pathetic” all day to people with 28 posts on this site.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27123947 - 01/03/21 01:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

he knows for a fact


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27123960 - 01/03/21 01:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Bernie would have lost the general election.  In hindsight, that is crystal clear.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: cannabinated]
    #27124036 - 01/03/21 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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cannabinated said:
he knows for a fact




https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/primaries-and-caucuses

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/primaries-caucuses/entrance-and-exit-polls/massachusetts/democratic

According to the graphic, Biden’s tally outperformed his exit polls by 16%

In reality, Biden slightly underperformed his exit polls.

That graphic is wrong on Massachusetts. No reason to waste time factchecking any further.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: Enlil]
    #27124039 - 01/03/21 02:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Enlil said:
Bernie would have lost the general election.  In hindsight, that is crystal clear.




Bernie couldn’t muster more than 35% of the democratic electorate. He had no chance in the general.


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Re: Trump Again Disavows White Supremacists while Biden Wont Disavow Antifa [Re: koods] * 1
    #27124069 - 01/03/21 02:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol

yall are so dumb

i dont even need to pull up a graph for that one


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