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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: durian_2008]
    #27131618 - 01/06/21 10:17 PM (11 days, 3 hours ago)

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Ear and face eating, without shirts on, reminded me more of bathsalts, tho. :shrug:



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I just want to remind everyone that Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist.



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Yeah so that was like 30 years ago or more? Should people be stigmatized and locked up forever ?




Does psychedelics use help a violent, rapey, cannibal to redeem himself, or is anything more than a microdose going to result in a newsworthy, bad trip?


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: durian_2008]
    #27131919 - 01/07/21 12:36 AM (11 days, 45 minutes ago)

I think cannabis and psychedelics help people come to terms with their emotions and understand them better and have profound life-changing realizations, and eventually help them understand why they feel how they feel and what they feel, and with a bit of effort, can overcome mental issues that plague them. With cannabis/psychedelics, some people can reach far beyond their potential, far beyond anything they ever would have accomplished without cannabis and psychedelics. They can help a person become a better person than they ever thought possible.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27134438 - 01/08/21 05:36 AM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

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Yeah so that was like 30 years ago or more? Should people be stigmatized and locked up forever ?




No, but I think hero worship and turning them into some kind of pop culture icon...especially when they have never expressed on iota of regret...is wrong.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27134582 - 01/08/21 08:51 AM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

Well ive heard him say that he doesn't like to look at his younger self. He seems much more mature and calm now. He is a boxing hero and cultural icon regardless and nothing wrong with that. An ego can get out of control in those circumstances he lived in at the time.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27135391 - 01/08/21 04:12 PM (9 days, 9 hours ago)

:shrug::thumbup:


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: durian_2008]
    #27137978 - 01/09/21 06:03 PM (8 days, 7 hours ago)

A boxing hero? He had his license revoked for intentionally biting a mans ear off then attempting to do it again after being warned, and this wasn't even the only instance of him biting his opponent...some hero.

As far as nothing being wrong with him being a cultural icon, that's your opinion and you are entitled to that, but I will never agree that there is "nothing wrong" with an unapologetic rapist(to this day he maintains his innocence), who has also on multiple occasions joked about other acts of domestic violence, being a cultural icon. Tyson has expressed more regret about his former tiger ownership than he has his abhorrent acts against women.

And I'd like to point out that there is a big gap between one's ego getting out of control, and beating and raping women, the fact that you think his lifestyle/career provides some kind of excuse for it is both telling and sickening.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27138886 - 01/10/21 03:28 AM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

I'm not saying it's an excuse and I don't think anyone is. It's just fact in hindsight that makes it possible to forgive him for his offensive behavior. I don't know how much he is a cultural icon per say, but a sports icon which is totally understandable from the amazing but short career he had in boxing. There is a difference in a person's personal life and what they accomplished in their career, and the personal life doesn't need to take away from the appreciation of their work. We don't stop liking the work of artists or musicians and so on if they weren't exactly what would be considered a good person. It would make them less likeable, which is why there is the saying never know your heroes.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27139154 - 01/10/21 10:02 AM (7 days, 15 hours ago)

If it's not an excuse then what does it have to do with it? That's exactly what you are saying, that we should forgive him because of his circumstances...i.e. excuse him.

And how/why the fuck should we be forgiving someone who has NEVER ASKED FOR IT. Expressing sorrow and regret is to me a prerequisite for forgiveness. I thought that was pretty universal.

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There is a difference in a person's personal life and what they accomplished in their career, and the personal life doesn't need to take away from the appreciation of their work.




Yes, it does. Or at least needs to compel consideration and debate...but you are erecting a strawman, this isn't about his boxing, its about him personally, its about Tyson as public figure in the present.

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We don't stop liking the work of artists or musicians and so on if they weren't exactly what would be considered a good person.




Except that his actions weren't limited to his personal life...i.e Holyfield and Lewis. And Tyson is hardly Wagner, and right now the question at hand isn't the value or legitimacy of his "art" but of his celebrity. Have you even read the fucking thread? How much of his boxing is being discussed here??

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which is why there is the saying never know your heroes.




But we do know, can't exactly put the cat back in the bag. And we aren't talking about some guy being a jerk to his assistants, or not tipping his servers, we are taking about an unapologetic rapist and woman beater.

I've got another saying for you, "When a person shows you who they are, believe them the first time". Tyson's current public persona is just that...a persona.


Edited by Holybullshit (01/10/21 10:29 AM)


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit] * 1
    #27139183 - 01/10/21 10:24 AM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Time will tell I suppose.  He served all his legal shit though.. “he paid his dues” or whatever they say.

You wanna go shit on his doorstep now or what’s up?


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Amanita86]
    #27139188 - 01/10/21 10:28 AM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Time will tell what?

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You wanna go shit on his doorstep now or what’s up?




I think I made that very clear from that start...but I'll repost it for yout.

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No, but I think hero worship and turning them into some kind of pop culture icon...especially when they have never expressed on iota of regret...is wrong.




Do you have a problem with reading comprehension or something?


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27139194 - 01/10/21 10:30 AM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Ah, a bit cunty huh?  Have fun with that..:yeahthatsright:


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Amanita86]
    #27139206 - 01/10/21 10:38 AM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Getting pissed off when people don't agree with you Holybullshit? and yes i have read the fucking thread since commenting from the first page onwards


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27139209 - 01/10/21 10:40 AM (7 days, 14 hours ago)

Thats a lot of shroomies to do on a podcast mike is a beast.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27143190 - 01/12/21 07:28 AM (5 days, 17 hours ago)

LOL...what you are detecting isn't "anger", it's incredulousness, though I'm not exactly happy with people who want to celebrate a remorseless rapist and violent misogynist...BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE, and that's what I'd be upset about, not someone "disagreeing" with me....but what I am really annoyed by is people dancing around in circles to try to justify an obviously unconscionable position.

If you've read it then you should be aware it has had nothing do with with Tyson as a (disgraced) boxer, just like his current station in pop culture has little to do with the "art" of pugilism...it's just clear that Tyson's incorrigible acts against women and his lack of repent, don't seem to bother you, so to square that fact morally(in apparent hingsight) you are desperate for logic to excuse your approval of Tyson as an entertainer/celebrity persona.

And what you are doing is so much worse than people who just hadn't given it much thought, or weren't aware that Tyson had not apologized...I've drawn it to your attention, given you time to consider, made it clear that he is unrepentant, and you still throw up bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse for both Tyson's actions and your position considering his current celebrity.

The only real difference between what's happening here and celebrating/normalizing the impenitent approval of a remorseless murderer...is that the acts were committed against women(of color), so you don't blink an eye, which says more about you than I ever could.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27143655 - 01/12/21 01:26 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

No I didn't know he hadn't apologized and as you say supposedly isn't regretting the things he did. But I don't really care about that and I'm not a fan of Tyson by any means. What I tried to point out is that it's not exactly wise to condemn a person to hell for eternity so to speak for something that he did 30 years ago or whatever it was, and that it doesn't obviously take away his championship as boxer, which is what he is celebrated for. Maybe he is like an icon in the States I don't know, maybe he is a celebrated douche. Is it the celebration of him, his achievements that bothers you so much? I don't see it as him encouraging rape or violence or anything. Has he ever said something like that?

yeah you weren't pissed off at all ...:leocheers:


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Holybullshit] * 1
    #27143744 - 01/12/21 02:16 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

Damn mike tyson is the shit.  :yeahthatsright:


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: Tiberjuggaligger]
    #27144912 - 01/13/21 02:47 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago)

He could be found in the public domain and respectfully asked about drug-induced insights on violence, if any.


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Re: Mike Tyson eats four grams of mushrooms on Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast [Re: durian_2008]
    #27144916 - 01/13/21 02:57 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago)

I was shown a modern iteration of The Wild Hunt, but with olden names, that I had to look up.


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