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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28595335 - 12/23/23 01:52 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

UO
Education should be free.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595391 - 12/23/23 03:00 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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UO
Education should be free.



When you say "free", do you mean college tuition to any school and any level paid for by the government? 
(other people's taxes)


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: flugelizor] * 2
    #28595393 - 12/23/23 03:01 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I think in some cases the government should pay you to go to school. We have such a huge need for psychiatrists and therapists in this country.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: flugelizor]
    #28595398 - 12/23/23 03:04 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Probably makes sense to do it like existing k-12 public education. Funding operating costs, not writing a blank check for whatever they feel like charging in tuition.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: psi] * 1
    #28595417 - 12/23/23 03:18 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

The government should just cover education. If people want to go and learn something. Why do we have to make them pay money for that. That would make a more talented person that would be able to produce better goods or services because of that education. Which would be a net gain on the whole.

We should have people being paid to be doctors.
Instead, only the most privileged and rich people ever get the opportunity to become doctors.

I guess all those other talented people that would’ve been amazing doctors. Never get to because we didn’t give them a chance.

That is pretty unacceptable to me.
If people want to talk about the cost. They aren’t thinking about the larger implication of having more talented people working here generating income.

It’s like saying, I don’t want to pay for a bridge because it cost too much money. Without actually thinking about all of the money that would be made by people using the bridge.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595441 - 12/23/23 03:42 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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Education should be free.




You don't literally believe in bodily or financial autonomy, so what are we supposed to do with the education. 

:waitthatsbad:

Make this into that other thread, and I will recuse myself as your source of negative attention.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28595442 - 12/23/23 03:43 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

:gains:
Why don’t you make that thread?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595446 - 12/23/23 03:46 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Pay for your education, to show that my time and emotional energy are too valuable for you to waste.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: durian_2008]
    #28595450 - 12/23/23 03:48 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

But you could get an education.
:gains: :gains: :gains: :gains:


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28595455 - 12/23/23 03:55 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I appreciate people who are brilliant and deserving.

But, having instructed in the use of dangerous machinery as well as advanced math for college credits, I do not personally believe that people without academic promise should be taught at any expense.

Much less, fail their way to the top.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: durian_2008]
    #28595457 - 12/23/23 03:57 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

That money could’ve been used for anything else. But you could’ve gotten it paid for by the government. That doesn’t sound great? I don’t think it in any way would take away or diminish what you’ve done. I respect everyone who’s had to pay for college. But you didn’t have to. You shouldn’t have had to.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595459 - 12/23/23 03:59 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

You've read my instructions about these shitposts, already.

Anything creatively rude would have been up-rated.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: durian_2008]
    #28595462 - 12/23/23 04:02 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

It would just be great if all the talented people got an education. But most can’t afford it. The government would be able to afford to send us education. And it would generate a lot of money if we had more talented people.
That is my opinion.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595471 - 12/23/23 04:18 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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It would just be great if all the talented people got an education. But most can’t afford it. The government would be able to afford to send us education. And it would generate a lot of money if we had more talented people.
That is my opinion.





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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: San Pedro Girl] * 2
    #28595489 - 12/23/23 04:31 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

In the US there are scholarships for brilliant poor people.
Then the income from being a doctor is enough to pay for college loans for the rest.

I know someone who failed out when the parents were paying, then moved out and tried again.
Top of class when she had to pay herself.
Funny how that works.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: flugelizor]
    #28595497 - 12/23/23 04:35 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

But now there are seminars and cheap on-line courses that do fantastic job of training for a specific job.

But college is more than that.
For me it was a social rite of passage.
I don't know if I want my tax money going to someone else's kids rite of passage.
(after I already paid my own)


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: flugelizor]
    #28595499 - 12/23/23 04:36 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

What if the money aspect of the education wasn’t at all part of that discussion.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595501 - 12/23/23 04:36 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Now, admittedly. Some people are going to abuse that system. They’re going to abuse themselves. They need to seek help to be able to receive it. But does that mean that everyone isn’t entitled to a chance for education?
That sounds absurd to me.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28595505 - 12/23/23 04:41 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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What if the money aspect of the education wasn’t at all part of that discussion.



You mean class prepared and taught by AI?
Maybe in the future...

(who pays for the AI?)


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28595513 - 12/23/23 04:47 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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Quote:

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It would just be great if all the talented people got an education. But most can’t afford it. The government would be able to afford to send us education. And it would generate a lot of money if we had more talented people.
That is my opinion.








studying by yourself might not be so great. need a master to clear things up and keep you from making mistakes. imagine having to unlearn a decade long bad habit or misconception. good will hunter is taking his intellect for granted in that situation. he did fine with the library method because his iq is 190. a normal person wouldn't fare so well

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I appreciate people who are brilliant and deserving.

But, having instructed in the use of dangerous machinery as well as advanced math for college credits, I do not personally believe that people without academic promise should be taught at any expense.

Much less, fail their way to the top.




i don't think anyone is advocating for higher learning at any cost for blockheads. poland, for instance, still requires a transcript and application to attend college. if your grades sucked in highschool you probably don't get to attend. the fees seem to be set by the institution offering the education, but i am pretty sure that there must be some kind of cap set by the government

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We should have people being paid to be doctors.
Instead, only the most privileged and rich people ever get the opportunity to become doctors.





agree, the amount of debt those people come out of med school with is ridiculous


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