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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28497974 - 10/09/23 06:02 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

yoooo wait man you down-rated hobbit?  my dog that was a joke.  i respect you but my dude hobbit is 1000% never serious about anything.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28497977 - 10/09/23 06:03 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

He loved it. He literally thanked me. He’s also proving to me that he’s not being completely serious.
He has three.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28497992 - 10/09/23 06:10 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Nobody should own more than ONE house dude. Why does anyone need a second or third house? A fucking vacation house? That's what fucking hotels are for.

There's 30 vacant houses for every homeless person. Homeless people should get a free house straight up. Most of them have severe mental problems keeping them from working anyway.




You think homeless people would maintain a free house? Clean it? Hold a job and pay utilities?
Fuck no they wouldn't.  A free house is a really expensive bandaid and nothing more.

That said, I've owned between 2 and 5 houses for about 15 years and I've let a couple that was homeless move in because they were getting enough govt money to come close to paying rent.  They even had caseworkers to assist with taking care of things but... it was a total fucking shit show and I kicked them back onto the street

Your hearts are in the right place but so many ideas here are just horrible and not realistic


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28497996 - 10/09/23 06:13 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)



I found this almost instantly when I searched.
There are infinite examples.
Even if she relapses at some point in the future. She’s been able to provide a safe environment for her children to grow up and move out of. That’s three people that aren’t on the street right now.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28498005 - 10/09/23 06:19 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

ill actually agree with stal on that one. giving houses to homless people doesnt make a lot of sense all ultimatley depreciates the land around it. 

doesnt mean we cant easily afford to build govt sponsored housing like they do in a many countries.  i read that around 25 billion over the span of ten years would put everyone in a home. for sure, not a nice home, but a safe home with a lock on the door. 

take a small cut of our insane "defense" budget and its a done deal.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498009 - 10/09/23 06:21 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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ill actually agree with stal on that one. giving houses to homless people doesnt make a lot of sense all ultimatley depreciates the land around it. 

doesnt mean we cant easily afford to build govt sponsored housing like they do in a many countries.  i read that around 25 billion over the span of ten years would put everyone in a home. for sure, not a nice home, but a safe home with a lock on the door. 

take a small cut of our insane "defense" budget and its a done deal.




You’re right.
Because we can’t just give these people a house.
They’ve been traumatized. They have PTSD. They might be addicted to drugs. They might be in gangs.
They need to have social workers check in with them. They need to be in counseling. They need to be in therapy. They need to possibly see psychiatrists. They need to be set up with jobs.
An opportunity to succeed.
It’s not a guarantee.
People will relapse.
It’s a shame. But at least could have an opportunity.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28498026 - 10/09/23 06:29 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Homeless people need treatment for their problems first and foremost. For some that means putting them in some kind of housing, but a HOUSE doesn’t solve the problem. A lot of them have very serious mental health problems that require medication, and much of the time they cannot be compelled to take medication until they assault someone. My ex girlfriend was a parole officer on the MHMR caseload here in Austin. It’s a cycle. Get off your meds, become homeless, attack someone, get arrested, take meds, get better.

Moral of the story is take your damn meds


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28498029 - 10/09/23 06:32 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I was in oslo and saw how they handled "homelessness" there.  for sure there are entire buildings deigned to be rigid and bulletproof.  They were concrete iside and out and didnt have much in the way of luxury but they were heated and had locks.

and yes, they have social workers looking after them.

There was also these temp houses that looked like fema tents.  they gave them propane heaters . they just figure its cheaper to give them heat than to let them freeze to death and handle paperwork.

theres this concept that i will never agree with: that if you dont work you dont deserve to live.  some people will never work.  some people cant and some just wont. that doesnt mean they deserve to freeze to death or succomb to scavies and ring worm.

i wont ever be changed in this beleif.  the shift into agrarianism/industrialism was supposed to mean abundance for all. "life everlasting" was the fruit of tree of knowledge, and that doesnt mean living forever. it meant having as many kids as you wanted. 

we have had the means to care for entire flock for a long time.  you cant logically prove to me that greed isnt the singular reason that we choose not to, try as you might.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28498031 - 10/09/23 06:34 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Quote:

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Nobody should own more than ONE house dude. Why does anyone need a second or third house? A fucking vacation house? That's what fucking hotels are for.

There's 30 vacant houses for every homeless person. Homeless people should get a free house straight up. Most of them have severe mental problems keeping them from working anyway.




You think homeless people would maintain a free house? Clean it? Hold a job and pay utilities?
Fuck no they wouldn't.  A free house is a really expensive bandaid and nothing more.

That said, I've owned between 2 and 5 houses for about 15 years and I've let a couple that was homeless move in because they were getting enough govt money to come close to paying rent.  They even had caseworkers to assist with taking care of things but... it was a total fucking shit show and I kicked them back onto the street

Your hearts are in the right place but so many ideas here are just horrible and not realistic




Get a real job.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498035 - 10/09/23 06:37 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Hilariously enough the quote completely relates to this.
One time there was this kid. He had been getting camp killed all game long. Somebody was just waiting for him.
β€œWell I’m gonna do that next game. That’ll show him.”
To which I responded.
Never let somebody lower you to their level.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28498037 - 10/09/23 06:39 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

You see in that case. I feel like they just weren’t getting enough money to actually live in a house then. They should’ve been able to pay their rent. The gov said they were going to pay their rent. Instead, you made them homeless again.
You shouldn’t of even been asking them for rent. Is what I’m saying. Why wasn’t the fed the one directly paying you?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 4
    #28498051 - 10/09/23 06:48 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I tend to disagree that its the working class's responsibility to care for the homeless when the goverment should be accountable for creating much of the crisis to
begin with.  as i said way ealier, reagan deinstitutionalizing millions of people with mental illness has had lasting consequnces and the burden placed once again on the working class.  Mental illness remains an issue at the state level and is largely left for taxpayers to sort out, as per.

100s of thousands of homeless vets. many of whom combat vets of foregin wars.  again, a burden of the working class primarily with little or no assistance from the fed.  i know a man with bullets in both legs who owes back-taxes.  has he not paid?  is he not square with the house?

meanwhile these fuckers tax us blind, and spend it all on weapons and create senseless wars to generate value of their own stock profiles consisting mostly of weapons manufacturers. ratheon, lockheed, boeing etc.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498053 - 10/09/23 06:50 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498062 - 10/09/23 06:56 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I have amended my previous statement. Thank you for pointing that out.

Why wasn’t the Fed paying you your rent?
Better than that even.
Why didn’t the Fed buy that house from you. So that homeless people could have their rent paid by them and live there?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
    #28498069 - 10/09/23 07:06 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I dont think its even fair to assume that someone like stal
should be shouldering the burden of providing housing to people like that.  They probably had a lot more going on than just financial issues.  People like that need all kinds of assistence.  Stal isnt qualified for all that nor
should he be

like i say.  when i look at our insane defense budget, it pisses me off that we dont just build some fucking houses for these guys.  I built a lab with a connex container for under 10k. 

heres another thing that grinds my gears.  look
at the amount of "greenspace" in any city.  not just the parks but parkways, medians etc.

its an invasive weed (bluegrass/fescue) we keep green with TAP WATER and fertlizer.  we pay city employees to maintain it. water it, mow it, aerate it, spray it for grubs.  the clippings typically go to the dump unless the city has a compost program.

All so people have more space than they need to let their dog run around and shit.

we treat dogs better than we do do our homeless vets.  fact.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498070 - 10/09/23 07:08 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

You think i punch down for saying land lords arent evil :facepalm:


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28498079 - 10/09/23 07:16 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

so yeah.. what if instead of these stupid fuckin dog shit parks, we had real urban farms.  not fucking "community gardens" which are a joke.  sorry but thats more pointless whitepeople feel-good shit

no, im talking FARMS.  tractor creased rows of actual food. 
who would take care of it? oh i dunno maybe the 120,000 homeless vets that could be living on site in fed-funded housing units. (think of the conex container).

what if they got a stipend for putting in work? what if they could afford their own booze and smokes like the rest of us?

what it peoples levees got them a voucher they could get their vegetables either free or severely discounted? kroger and the fucking grocery tycoons would have to change their entire business model.

living costs would drop.. housing costs would
drop.  homelessness would drop.

and the dogs would still have plenty of places to take a shit.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: trees] * 1
    #28498080 - 10/09/23 07:19 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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You think i punch down for saying land lords arent evil :facepalm:




honestly your energy is too small to bother with.


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    #28498083 - 10/09/23 07:23 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28498086 - 10/09/23 07:25 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I get that youre hurting from paying rent, i also hated it but its just the way it is, complaining will never change your rent. You have a humam body that can work hard to get yourself to a better place. Just work on it. Good luck to you


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