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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494736 - 10/06/23 06:23 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Workers should be paid a living wage. If the tip is illegal. They can’t hire people for five dollars anymore.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494751 - 10/06/23 06:32 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

If they just paid a living wage, nobody would need to tip.  either way the systems fucked i agree. I get pretty pissed at people that dont tip though.  Fucking over some broke lady because you think the sytems fucked is not the way..


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494757 - 10/06/23 06:34 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I understand that. And I do tip based off of actual service. If the food arrives cold. They get a not great tip. But they still get a tip. Because like you said this is fucked I need to tip him at that point. But if I’m getting something from a restaurant, and I just gave him cash and they’re handing me a bag of food, then they try and turn the thing around to have me tip them. I’m not gonna do that..


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494760 - 10/06/23 06:36 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Tipping should be illegal
If you desperately want to give money to somebody because they did an excellent job. That should just be a gift. But it’s just an excuse to have borderline slave labor.



I'm a massage therapist and was in school way longer than I should have had to have been and there's no way in hell I'm not getting my tips.

If you went to school for something then you should get tipped. Servers at a restaurant work pretty hard but at the end of the day doesn't require much skill. Still they should get paid enough money to keep up with cost of living.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494761 - 10/06/23 06:37 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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You should try a kumquat. Also a citrus. Although I’ve almost never talked to a single person that ate one.



I've tried a kumquat, I love them. Tart on the inside and sweet on the outside. You eat it with the peel still on.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494762 - 10/06/23 06:39 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

You mean fast food? fast food chains pay pretty well actually.  I always tip a minumum of 20%.  cant remember the last time i had actually bad service.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28494765 - 10/06/23 06:39 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

But if tipping is illegal. Then you need to pay people a living wage is what I’m saying. I am not opposed to people getting gifts for excellent service. You deserve to be paid. You went to school for your trade. Doesn’t it feel fucked up to you, that people can not pay you? Shouldn’t you always get the money that you’re supposed to get?
I have always been fairly poor. Unfortunately, I’ve been in the position where I can’t tip.
Eight dollars is enough to get you food. There won’t be enough though to tip somebody 20%. I’m not being the dick. The person who isn’t paying them a standard wage is. I could afford the food. The person who made it was supposed to be paid their money too.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28494769 - 10/06/23 06:41 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Tipping should be illegal
If you desperately want to give money to somebody because they did an excellent job. That should just be a gift. But it’s just an excuse to have borderline slave labor.



I'm a massage therapist and was in school way longer than I should have had to have been and there's no way in hell I'm not getting my tips.

If you went to school for something then you should get tipped. Servers at a restaurant work pretty hard but at the end of the day doesn't require much skill. Still they should get paid enough money to keep up with cost of living.





it requires some skill to stand on any hard service and take shit off of dumbfucks all day with a smile.  A massage therapist sets their own prices so ive never seen any reason to tip one.  its already expensive if its good.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28494773 - 10/06/23 06:46 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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But if tipping is illegal. Then you need to pay people a living wage is what I’m saying. I am not opposed to people getting gifts for excellent service. You deserve to be paid. You went to school for your trade. Doesn’t it feel fucked up to you, that people can not pay you? Shouldn’t you always get the money that you’re supposed to get?
I have always been fairly poor. Unfortunately, I’ve been in the position where I can’t tip.
Eight dollars is enough to get you food. There won’t be enough though to tip somebody 20%. I’m not being the dick. The person who isn’t paying them a standard wage is. I could afford the food. The person who made it was supposed to be paid their money too.




if you cant tip dont eat out.  go grab some canned tuna or ramen or some shit.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28494774 - 10/06/23 06:48 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Tipping should be illegal

If you went to school for something then you should get tipped. Servers at a restaurant work pretty hard but at the end of the day doesn't require much skill. Still they should get paid enough money to keep up with cost of living.




But by that logic, I would need to tip doctors. I would need to tip therapists. I would need a tip psychiatrist. I would need to tip physical therapists. That’s ridiculous. They’re making lots of money. They do not need tips. I’m talking about waiters waitresses people that are working as hard as they can. And then a party of seven will leave with no tip on the table.

Out of the blue it just feels like somebody will turn around and ask for a tip now. Where there was never any expectation for one before. It’s like they just realize they should’ve been asking the entire time. It’s ridiculous. People need to make a living wage. Also, I don’t think they realize the implications of just suddenly asking for tips. At some point their employers will start not paying them as much because of the tips. I’m not gonna pay the person at Abercrombie a tip.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28494783 - 10/06/23 06:58 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Tips are fine but yeah, it shouldn't be legal to subsidize wages with tips. Tipped minimum needs to go and actual minimum needs to rise a bunch and then be tied to inflation.  Pay people what they're worth and price your menu accordingly.  If someone still wants to tip their server who's making $20/hr or more, great, more power to them.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28494787 - 10/06/23 07:03 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Tips are fine but yeah, it shouldn't be legal to subsidize wages with tips. Tipped minimum needs to go and actual minimum needs to rise a bunch and then be tied to inflation.  Pay people what they're worth and price your menu accordingly.  If someone still wants to tip their server who's making $20/hr or more, great, more power to them.



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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28494788 - 10/06/23 07:03 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

the concept of "skilled labor" is one of the ways capitlaists justify poverty wages.  All full time jobs should pay a living wage.  period.  A massage therapist doesnt work harder than a burger king employee.  in fact, fast food is one of the hardest jobs per wage.  Its fast paced, long hours, hostile, ugly environment in tight quarters.  Everythings hot and beeps and then theres shitty customers all day.

Skill shouldnt neccesarily mean you deserve a higher quality of life, just a higher quality of work.  Within reason of course.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494790 - 10/06/23 07:05 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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the concept of "skilled labor" is one of the ways capitlaists justify poverty wages.  All full time jobs should pay a living wage.  period.




This republican right here is one of my good friends. Thank you my good man. You understand exactly where I’m coming from.

If there were a third-party, I think we would both be in it.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28494796 - 10/06/23 07:08 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I assume youre talking to balls.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494797 - 10/06/23 07:08 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Tell me you dont think im a republican..


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494799 - 10/06/23 07:10 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

My bad I thought you said you were earlier


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28494800 - 10/06/23 07:11 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Republican :burke:


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    #28494807 - 10/06/23 07:18 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Nope.  I dislike the warmongering democrats but that doesnt make me a jack-boot republican.


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    #28494811 - 10/06/23 07:25 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Tipping should be illegal
If you desperately want to give money to somebody because they did an excellent job. That should just be a gift. But it’s just an excuse to have borderline slave labor.



I'm a massage therapist and was in school way longer than I should have had to have been and there's no way in hell I'm not getting my tips.

If you went to school for something then you should get tipped. Servers at a restaurant work pretty hard but at the end of the day doesn't require much skill. Still they should get paid enough money to keep up with cost of living.





it requires some skill to stand on any hard service and take shit off of dumbfucks all day with a smile.  A massage therapist sets their own prices so ive never seen any reason to tip one.  its already expensive if its good.



I work in a spa, I DO NOT set the prices there! lol. I only get paid $25/hour but only when I'm booked. I SHOULD be getting at minimum, $50 before tips. But these god damn chains have taken over and CHEAPENED the prices so that the independent therapists have a harder time making money.


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