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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
#28198245 - 02/21/23 09:11 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Let's take greg lockes church for example. Is he and his flock welcoming for all? Maybe the 70yo man who got beat down for wearing a blm shirt at mastersons rally recently? Extreme religious nutbags and "evangelicals" in particular and the people who espouse "traditional family values" are nowhere near accepting of any and all people.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
#28198263 - 02/21/23 09:19 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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One group sees the other as intolerant of them and then hates them. The other will do the same.
Likely neither are correct, but it self perpetuates.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#28198267 - 02/21/23 09:22 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Is that the majority or the people you choose to highlight?
To the people who don't like church or church goers, you must not know as many of the families of good people who go to church who have the best nuclear families and the ideal families people want and hope for like I know
Those are the first hand experiences of Christian families I get my judgment from
There's plenty of pedophiles and criminals and heartless people who are gay, trans, lgbtq, etc
Do they love and accept Christians...?
Why are you big on black lives matter ?
That organization stole from donations and kept them for themselves and haven't done anything to help black families and the left hasn't done anything to help black families either
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Smellyhobbit said: One group sees the other as intolerant of them and then hates them. The other will do the same.
Likely neither are correct, but it self perpetuates.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] 2
#28198378 - 02/21/23 10:23 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Church is mostly not okay because most churches don't support abortion or LGBTQ+. If you don't support abortion or the LGBTQ+ then I'm pretty much gonna never like you and I think you're a hazard to evolution as a society. It's 2023. It's time to move on from these crazy stories that religion is based on. We have evolved so far and have made tremendous progress in science. Science is the best way we have to understand the world around us. Before science we had to come up with something to help us comprehend everything: this was the basis for religion. We no longer need religion: we've evolved past it.
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We haven't evolved shit
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
#28198384 - 02/21/23 10:25 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Then you aren't paying attention.
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Let's kill them all then and get rid of them
That would be best for our evolution
Ps. If you think science and religion are at odds you don't understand either
Ever heard of Einstein? Aristotle ?
Aristotle and the unmoved mover is a story about how science lead Aristotle to God
Basically you're saying if someone disagrees with you they're a hazard to society and evolution
I think that mindsight is a hazard to society and evolution
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] 2
#28198663 - 02/22/23 06:06 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Enkidu said: Basically you're saying if someone disagrees with you they're a hazard to society and evolution
I think that mindsight is a hazard to society and evolution
No, they're saying that if a group of people advertises a position that is bigoted by definition, then they don't want to associate with that group, and generally will avoid interacting with the people who support the group advocating for those bigoted beliefs. Further, in this day and age, continuing to hold those bigoted beliefs in spite of the wealth of data we have thay suggests otherwise is generally holding back the bulk of humanity from moving on to other, more pressing matters.
Big difference from killing people over a difference in belief over whether we got to heaven when we die or whether the earth was created by a magic man in the sky. Take your foot off of the accelerator, bruh.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Jean-Luc Picard] 1
#28198728 - 02/22/23 07:44 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Plus them Christ bros never actually have any real lessons or teachings to share. Never not once have they given us anything to learn from. You press and ask them and their answers are always some empty bullshit beating around the bush or pretending they didnt hear the hard questions.
I think Christians are like bunk scientists who cant let go of their false work, false findings, false conclusions, theyd rather pretend their conclusions are valid all the way to da grave. Its a pitty human condition to not beable to admit wrongness.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: trees]
#28198737 - 02/22/23 07:55 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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People are dumb, we will never "evolve".
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
#28198748 - 02/22/23 08:02 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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You know what else immensley strengthens/reinforces superstition and a unwavering trust in religion is being surrounded by equally or more disillusioned people & family. If your friends and parents are religious nuts and you associate positive experiences with being around those nuts, youre more likely to bond stronger with the way of the nuts and not be willing to accept any falsehood about that particular groups beliefs.
To realize or accept any falsehood of your valued peers or superiors would be more painful than pretending (for a lot of humans suffering from that condition of fearing falsehood)
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: trees]
#28198749 - 02/22/23 08:05 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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My friends and family have been dead a while. Still believe there is a God. There is nothing you can do that will change that. I will never impose on your beliefs and prefer to be nice but I am also human and turning the other cheek just isn't my cup of tea, I'd rather turn your cheek
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#28198765 - 02/22/23 08:25 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Yeah but do you believe in Jesus and the virgin Mary and the Garden of Eden and incest?
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
#28198779 - 02/22/23 08:39 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: People are dumb, we will never "evolve".
What do you mean by evolve, since you put it in quotations?
Humans are actively evolving, and at an increasing rate. Modern humans are more different from humans 5000 years ago than humans 5000 years ago are from humans 10,000 years ago.
Society has evolved significantly, as has our understand of the world around us. If you had told a farmer during the early stages of the agricultural revolution, that we would eventually understand the universe to the point that we will eventually figure out how to extract metals and other pure substances from rocks and dirt, lay out an effective city of those elements onto a spot the size of their thumbnail, harness the forces of lightning, direct that force into this flattened miniature rock city, and use that miniature electrified city of the elements within rock to create simulations of complex physical systems, that are accurate enough to launch other complex rock cities into permanent flight among the stars, that allow us to know exactly where we are on the planet and for any one person or thing to talk to any other person or thing, and then use that to automate farming over billions of acres of land, to support billions of humans...well I'd be willing to bet that that farmer would probably laugh and tell you there's no way that humans will ever evolve beyond back-breaking labor in the hot sun, just to barely survive each year, because that's all they've ever done, it's either farming to not die, or hunting to not die.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: trees]
#28198780 - 02/22/23 08:42 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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People lived for a VERY long time a long time ago. Incest was permitted in the beginning because the first humans had perfect DNA.
I put evolve in quotes to show context of the previous user saying we need to evolve using the same mindset as a terrorist.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#28198783 - 02/22/23 08:47 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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I am all for destroying religions. All they ever do is use it to destroy people and better themselves. I still belive in God.
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#28198793 - 02/22/23 09:01 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: People lived for a VERY long time a long time ago. Incest was permitted in the beginning because the first humans had perfect DNA.
wtfs gotten into you
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
#28198800 - 02/22/23 09:05 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: I am all for destroying religions. All they ever do is use it to destroy people and better themselves. I still belive in God.
That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, I'm in that weird, lazy agnostic realm. I don't feel an obvious pull (faith or intuition) one way or another, and I don't see much evidence for any actively involved "god" as god is typically portrayed by the most major religions. Churches, temples, mosques, and the people who preach within them have never really helped with that lack of pull in their respective direction.
My whole take on it is that, if there is anything that can be called God, it's either not involved or just lurking (so why should I care if it exists or not) or God is a more diffuse concept that just makes up some wishy washy idea of a collective consciousness that scopes all things within (and maybe beyond) the universe, and therefore my thoughts and actions are all part of god, and good and evil are all God. At that point, God takes less of an active role in me deciding how I'm going to treat others or run a society, other than reminding me that we all come from the same shit. That's probably why I have such a hard time with anyone telling me that gay people can't get married, or trans women can't use the women's restroom, or that all religious people or people from religion x are retarded nazis. 
Spirit, you sound like a pretty rad person that I'd love to smoke a joint and and have a conversation with, preferably while strolling around your backyard cannabis garden
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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] 1
#28198810 - 02/22/23 09:15 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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I'm not highlighting them they are highlighting themselves and want to take over the usa and possibly the world. That mtg horse shit is surreal. WTF is all that? How is that normal/kind/or even remotely xtian or good in any way? Have you ever seen a group of LGBT+ people burn bibles or any books related to xtian doctrines etc? How about beat the shit out of people for wearing crosses or hanging around churches chanting death threats holding hateful signs with fucked up messages on them and things like that? I don't recall ever seeing that. There's bad people in every segment of all societies for sure and I don't disagree with that.
The foundations of ANY xtian church as I know it to this day will tell ANYONE in the congregation or who visits that they hate the sin love the sinner and that the only way is the way of the bible/jesus/christ/god except it's only how they interpret it to fit whatever ideology/ideologies they want to push that one "preacher" feels is right for everyone because of some self righteous holier than thou fucked up hateful mindset. How is that accepting and loving and kind? Why is it the only way a family is "normal and loving" that it has to be what people would call a "biological male or female nuclear family" or "the ideal families people want and hope for"?
I think that organized religion and the people that have held certain positions of power and have controlled things through religion and such see that empire being chipped away and crumbling and they'll fight tooth and nail or completely destroy everything instead of accepting other people who they find "abhorrent" or "sick" or any other name they give to things and people that they do not understand or even want to try to understand.
New ways of thinking, living, and being are the way of the future and to progress as a human race we have to move beyond archaic ideologies that have started more wars, killed more people, and caused more hate in the name of the lord/religion.
Here, I'll put this here too.
Are you a doctor or a biologist who has studied human bodies for years and decades? Have you ever seen or met a gay person, a really effeminate man, or butch manly woman in person and actually talked to them and tried to get to know them? Chemical imbalances and the human brain combined with mental issues, genetics, family life, family history, genetics and ways of thinking and being are extremely complicated and very subjective to the person who it effects/affects. Unless you know a great deal about science and human biology how can you even think you know what's "best for all underage children" and the families that have them?
Your fear of the unknown and refusal to find out is what's keeping you in the place you seem to be in. Who knows what your upbringing, family life, friends, family, peers, schooling, chemical balances/imbalances in your system, genes, your parents genetics, family history of genetics and all those other factors are like that has helped shape your ways of thinking, physicality and thinking/being are like. I suggest you expand on your intellect and actually try to find out about a subject more before you just have a knee jerk reactionary condemnation of things you more than likely know anything about other than what ever fear mongering fucked up horse shit you ingest.
The advancement in technology, science and everything is bringing about new eras and ways of being that are called progress. It is not stopping. It's not going away. people can't stomp it out or kill it off. You can't legislate it away. People can prolong it and "make it safe for our grandchildren" and make laws to try and prevent progress but it will happen and must happen in order for us to move into the future as a human race. It will prevail and it will be a part of human existence and one day all the people that opposed all of this claiming satan this and satan that and all the other fear of it will be laughed at.
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Church is mostly not okay because most churches don't support abortion or LGBTQ+. If you don't support abortion or the LGBTQ+ then I'm pretty much gonna never like you and I think you're a hazard to evolution as a society. It's 2023. It's time to move on from these crazy stories that religion is based on. We have evolved so far and have made tremendous progress in science. Science is the best way we have to understand the world around us. Before science we had to come up with something to help us comprehend everything: this was the basis for religion. We no longer need religion: we've evolved past it.
Same My core beliefs are the same. I cant hang with someone/something on an intimate level if they are against those very same things. I cant
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