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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
    #28131536 - 01/08/23 10:08 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

i dont think human life is any more special or important than the gaseous atmosphere on neptune. its all one bro. there is no hierarchy to existence


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: split_by_nine]
    #28131541 - 01/08/23 10:11 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

Why does it need to be more important just to be important ?

I think everything is important and this has meaning and value

Otherwise I don't think it would exist

But you disagree ?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
    #28131543 - 01/08/23 10:12 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

my ultimate opinion is that life and death are equal parts of this existence and we are not inhibiting anything by aborting a fetus.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28131544 - 01/08/23 10:14 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

Well you’re quite literally inhibiting something.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28131547 - 01/08/23 10:16 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

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Well you’re quite literally inhibiting something.




haha yes the baby. i mean we are not stopping anything. our sun will shine until it cannot.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #28131548 - 01/08/23 10:20 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

When people discuss/argue/fight about abortion that’s never what they’re talking about. Couch it in whatever way you want, it is always two parties taking the long road to talk about whether a fetus is a person. No other part of this discussion matters, no matter which way you cut it.

If it’s not a person, then you can do anything to it and be morally above board.

If it is, then the circumstances of its conception, out of its control, are moot, and the life must be treated with the same dignity and respect that yours or mine should. Maybe even more, since it is literally innocent.

That’s a tricky fuckin topic. To claim it is black and white in either direction seems dishonest to me.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
    #28131549 - 01/08/23 10:21 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

We have to intentionally take action to intervene something that's begun and in process and would otherwise produce a baby if left alone

I guess you're right smelly

I can't really accept that it's just a bundle of cells

I view it as what will be a living person if you don't take action and prevent it


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #28131550 - 01/08/23 10:22 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

I appreciate you understanding and sharing


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28131553 - 01/08/23 10:23 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

i agree to an extant. ever heard that wild animals will reject their young if they are handled by human hands? i had a hamster that ate 6 of its babies. is that immoral?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: split_by_nine]
    #28131555 - 01/08/23 10:24 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

Idk im not a hamster

Can't judge a hamster by human standards


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
    #28131556 - 01/08/23 10:26 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

did we not all come from the same source?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: split_by_nine]
    #28131557 - 01/08/23 10:26 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

True


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28131558 - 01/08/23 10:27 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

I don’t know. Are hamsters and human beings equivalent? And I’m not even trying to be shitty. I personally think a hamster isn’t the same as a person. Animals eat their young. Mothers have postpartum depression and drown their children. Both are natural things, aren’t they?


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
    #28131560 - 01/08/23 10:28 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

I suppose I can't disagree thats a spiritually mature way to view it as to be unmoved by it, split

If thats what you're claiming


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #28131562 - 01/08/23 10:30 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

It's past my bedtime. I appreciate your patience shroomery, I'll get there


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu] * 2
    #28131564 - 01/08/23 10:31 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

I'm glad hampsters aren't bigger then us


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Enkidu]
    #28131563 - 01/08/23 10:31 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

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It's past my bedtime. I appreciate your patience shroomery, I'll get there



Good night, friend. Thank you for sharing your opinion.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28131566 - 01/08/23 10:33 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

no, a hamster is not the same as a human, but we all abide by the same laws of nature. life and death. food and shelter. im positing that nature lives and dies by no explicit code of conduct. its not immoral for animals to end the life of another animal


its just the way she goes. you can cry about it if you want:shrug:


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28131568 - 01/08/23 10:36 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

I’m not sure what the implication of that statement is. I’m sure you’re not implying that humans abide by natural conduct codes as outlined above. Wouldn’t that mean you’d be in favor of repealing laws against rape and murder?

I don’t think that’s what you’re saying, but like what’s the point otherwise? We’re not hamsters. We don’t actually follow the same code of conduct as anything else, by choice.


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Re: The official unpopular opinion thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28131574 - 01/08/23 10:48 PM (1 year, 19 days ago)

an aborted fetus can lead to more advanced medicine. stem cells are next level.

i dont see the same outcome from rape and murder


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