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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27150264 - 01/15/21 06:15 PM (3 years, 13 days ago) |
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I think any kind of blending or freezing step makes it too difficult to strain.
i’ve heard of different clever ways to get the juice back easily, but I never figured out any - and I found boiling the chunks without blending works just fine.
for pre dried cactus idk... i’d probably do a tar type thing where you evap the filtered solvent and scrape up the mess
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straining isnt that hard. let the tea (with all the junk) in the fridge for 1 night and than carefully pour the liquid without the sediments. you can clean it further while reducing it-in this step,the remaining junk will come to the surface as a foam which you can easily spoon away.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: golmo]
#27153056 - 01/17/21 09:28 AM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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I suggest when leaving it for for the night to settle, use a tall but narrow container to decrease the surface area. This will make it easier to separate the layers.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27155736 - 01/18/21 03:37 PM (3 years, 10 days ago) |
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By the way, one thing that can be done to help with absorption is not only to make sure that your gut is empty, but also dehydrate it slightly. Don't drink any water or liquids for a good few hours before drinking cactea. This way your guts will absorb cactea rapidly. It minimizes the risk of throwing up and the general gastric challenges.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27156796 - 01/19/21 05:44 AM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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are you sure? i think that drinking is important with san pedro because of all the changes in minerals,salts and kidney function (Phenethylamine effects i believe). I believe that you should properly hydrate yourself few hours before drinking and maybe stop drinking 1-2 hours before but not more than that. and drink sports water after puking aswell.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: golmo]
#27157482 - 01/19/21 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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You say 1-2 hours, I would say 3-4 hours (just have tiny sips of water to keep your mouth moist). Your concept is similar to mine anyway. It all depends on the weather. This wouldn't be wise to do in a heatwave. You ned to be aware of what is going on in your gut. Once you've had the cactea, then drink water or whatever you want. Personally, I always make a BIG batch of fresh juice before the trip and drink that (apple, ginger and lime; carrot and celeriac)
Instead of sports water I would rinse the puke (acids) with some milk first (to normalize pH), then use electrolytes (ones for diarrhoea).
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Dr. Delban] 1
#27157616 - 01/19/21 02:35 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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nice! i think that next time i will drink coconut water after the tea
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: golmo]
#27157710 - 01/19/21 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yes good choice.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27157856 - 01/19/21 05:05 PM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27412858 - 08/03/21 09:53 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Freezing and thawing are too easy to be skipped over unless you’re in a hurry. I have a deep freeze so I just throw 1/8” stars in the boil pot and freeze/thaw thrice before boiling. I’m skipping the blending until pull #3 so the first 2 pulls strain easily. Great thread.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Great1]
#27413823 - 08/04/21 07:19 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, freezing and thawing doesn't do anything but wasting time and effort. It's useless and gives also room for mistakes and loss of actives. Freezing and thawing in a pot is good, though. No thawing water is lost this way. But still .. not necessary.
Just boil the chopped plant. Or eat it raw, that's the best anyway. 
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27413898 - 08/04/21 08:46 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea i meant thawing in the pot. you are right, freezing is not mandatory. i dont freeze it today actually. and i am against eating it raw. i dont think that cactus solids should be digested.
in my last experiment i tried without even blending it but it was much weaker. i recommend to blend it
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: digging2020]
#27415917 - 08/05/21 07:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
digging2020 said: is slime a “must” when making the brew? first time. cut around core...chopped...blended...cooked on stove for 3 hours..crockpot 6 hours....added water once. 5 12in pieces. no slime.
No, the secret to avoiding slime is to dry the cactus before making your tea. No slime.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: SpacedX]
#27415937 - 08/05/21 07:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great thread. I think mescaline has great potential for psychedelic therapy because it has some of the same healing properties as MDMA while being safer (although not as much fun).
I am a believer in just freezing, thawing and then drink the resulting juice. It seems a lot simpler than all the boiling and processing.
I tried to blend the dark green layer one time. I couldn't extract anything after that so I just maned up and drank the milkshake.
Don't be afraid of the purge, you will avoid future intestine distress as you got rid of the cactus and vomiting is a emotional release when on psychedelics. Purging is also often the start of the trip.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: SpacedX]
#27416389 - 08/06/21 05:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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i tried many times to just freeze+thaw and drink the result juice with no good results.
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: golmo]
#27419000 - 08/07/21 11:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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In that first step, where you store in a cold dark place, would a refrigerator be ok? Or just a different place in the house that's cool and dark?
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: Spore Gasm]
#27419646 - 08/08/21 12:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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no fridge. it doesnt really have to be that cold. just room temp and dark. (and dry...)
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: golmo]
#27419668 - 08/08/21 12:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Where did You get the idea that alkaloids may increase after You have took the cutting?
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Re: My tips for making a san pedro tea [Re: BoomerMan420] 1
#27422656 - 08/10/21 01:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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there are many resources that claim the alkaloids increase when it is stressed. after you cut it its still alive but now it has no roots so it is stressed and by time create more alkaloids
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