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Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? *DELETED*
    #27115647 - 12/30/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: ButtFace] * 1
    #27115672 - 12/30/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Why not just use the microwave & really set yourself up for the fail boat.
In all honestly I have heard of peeps using steem & various other methods of preparing agar. I think both are frowned upon as contamination rates have & will be less than acceptable.
Really even an instapot (not really a good choice either) can be had cheeply at 2nd hand stores.

Ya really kinda need a PC in this hobby. I know but so&so did this or said that... That was in their enviorment with their spores & a PC should be 1st purchase in this hobby.


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? *DELETED* [Re: Buddaking]
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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: ButtFace]
    #27115686 - 12/30/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Persistance... The short answere is yes you can steem sterilize anything..
I steem sterilize 300 lbs grain spawn at a wack 24 hrs.
Your time needed will varry & success might be spotty.

Look up brf paste if ya really want some pucks w/o a PC


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? *DELETED* [Re: Buddaking]
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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: ButtFace]
    #27115726 - 12/30/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You can use a microwave to sterilize agar so you'll probably be fine


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: ButtFace] * 1
    #27115736 - 12/30/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes it will work.
Success in my opinion is obtained with consistant reliable repeatable results.
Anything less is Luck not success.
Good luck bro & let me know how it goes.
Tomato a T/C states 45 min is sufficent & 2 hrs to be overkill.. IDK my first purchase in this hobby was a 23qt Presto a 12 yrs ago.. with new seals it is still running strong. Best purchase I have ever made other than condoms.
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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: Buddaking]
    #27115878 - 12/30/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If steam sterilizing your conatmination rate will be much higher than if you used a pc, but as I understand it you should apply a fractional sterilization technique.

I tried it with grains and it all at seemed to work, but all jars eventually contaminated.

What I did was steamed them, let them sit 12 hours than did it again, let them sit 12 hours than did it again, etc etc . Maybe if I would have done it one or two more times.

Grain jars are harder to sterilize even I. A pC so maybe you'll have better luck with agar.with that said I agree with everyone else that you need a pc for this hobby. A PC or an autoclave, but PC is generally more accessible and affordable.

Even a cheap $40 dollar or less one will work. If you've been struggling with trying to sterilize with out a pc you'll be on easy street with a pc.


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: Cyonic]
    #27115880 - 12/30/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No one uses fractional sterilization. Farms do however use atmospheric steaming with great success


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27115891 - 12/30/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Not trying to be an asshole or anything but I am personally of the opinion that if you can't afford a 120 dollar pc this is the wrong hobby for you. I met a guy that steamed everything and sold my sister mold one time, she's allergic, it was bad.


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Re: Will steaming no-pour agar for 120 minutes sterilize it? [Re: ButtFace]
    #27121886 - 01/02/21 11:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah 2hrs is way overkill.  I steam agar prepours at least 2x per month and I go 45-60min depending on the pot and lid combo.  My PCs get full and I still need agar so it's a quick fix.  I can't recall ever having an issue with it.


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