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Identifying bacteria
    #27119510 - 01/01/21 12:17 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

Hello, i use the monotub tek and use substrate ordered from online as well as grain spawn. A few months ago I got a bag of substrate that had orange contamination in two of the 10ish bags.I went ahead and used the other 8 and since then Ive lost about 75% of my tubs do to an orange sponge like bacteria growing on it during fruiting conditions before mushrooms appear.

I have two tubs that are about 5 days into fruiting and it has appeared again like clockwork. I have cleaned the tubs, the grow area,and am pretty meticulous regarding these things. But as of lately Ive lost a lot to contam in substrate and this problem and am probably about to stop this hobby until I can have a real sterile environment.

I usually just throw the bricks out but today Ive tried to cut out the bacteria and yes I know its not going to work.

Any help would be appreciated in idenfifying or dealing with this. I will post pics when I learn how to do so.

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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Heaven1]
    #27119521 - 01/01/21 12:31 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)


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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Heaven1] * 1
    #27119529 - 01/01/21 12:41 AM (4 years, 16 days ago)

90% of the people here that use premade spawn and substrate have contamination issues. I would bet money that if you make the spawn and sub yourself, you will probably see much better results.

All you need is a pressure cooker, some grain (whole oats are cheap and easy) and some coco coir.

Spores are likely contaminated with bacteria as well so injecting spores into a premade bag is like a triple whammy for contamination. Agar work is intimidating but its really easy once you try it a few times. It actually becomes pretty fun if you're into that kinda thing. Theres lots of great links in my signature.

If you don't have access to a pressure cooker, you can try pf tek. I skipped cakes and went straight to "bulk" because cake teks seem like just as much work and more baby sitting and have a lower yield.


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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27119580 - 01/01/21 02:32 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I will be moving soon so I might just take a break. I would love nothing more in the world then to start using agar and creating my own grain spawn but Im under the impression you need a sterile enviroment/air hood for that, which I do not currently have access to.

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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Heaven1]
    #27119585 - 01/01/21 02:40 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

You don't need a flowhood to do agar.

Just a Still Air Box (SAB) and follow the procedure to sanitise your work area. It's not as difficult as it seems.





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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27119657 - 01/01/21 04:18 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

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If you don't have access to a pressure cooker, you can try pf tek. I skipped cakes and went straight to "bulk" because cake teks seem like just as much work and more baby sitting and have a lower yield.





i went straight to bulk as well my first grow, still havenโ€™t ever grown cakes. if you donโ€™t have a pressure cooker but donโ€™t wanna do cakes, you can make BRF cakes just like you would with any tek for cakes, but instead of fruiting them as cakes in a SGFC or whatever you just break em up into some coir like they are grains

also yes an SAB is def all you need to be successful & i promise all of it is much easier than it sounds. agar especially sounds intimidating but itโ€™s all super easy


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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27120042 - 01/01/21 09:55 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Im not itimidated by agar I promise, we have worked with it in college. I also started with BRF cakes before monotubs. I did not use a pressure cooker but instead sterilized with steam in a pot.

I may look into agar/creating grain spawn but yeah like I said Im moving in a few months and not sure I want to learn a new tek to do potentially only do once.

I want to clone badly so I can get even and big flushes.

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Re: Identifying bacteria [Re: Heaven1]
    #27120577 - 01/01/21 02:53 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

i think itโ€™s worth doing even if itโ€™s just once! assuming you can grow again after you move, you take those skills into your next grow. also cloning & those beautiful wall to wall flushes only comes with agar & grain pretty much, even if you just get one solid flush iโ€™d say itโ€™s worth it. you never really lose the skills once you learn them


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