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Niffla



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Been a while since I ordered it, but I ordered from a vendor in Canada on several different occasions and each time it got to my mailbox just fine. I ordered 50 of them a couple of times too.
I don't know, I wasn't too worried about it. Maybe I should have been, but...I wasn't. There's just sooooooooo many packages that are on the move every single day. They can only truly look into a tiny miniscule sliver of a fraction of the packages that go around, and to me the only ones that they can even afford the time to actually look at with any level of suspicion is mail with some actual weight to it, and a sending of 1P has zero weight to it 
That said I guess if a certain vendor has been flagged then that would change things.
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InvisibleMind
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Why not do all that and use a fake name? Using a fake name on mail isn’t illegal, the only laws around that is if you open a P.O. Box it has to be under a real name but you can put whatever you want as your name. I work at FedEx and people out shit like “mr wiggles” all the time lol.
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Fake names can raise alarms, they can also lead to mail not getting delivered. General consensus is to not do it.
Legally what difference do you think it makes when you accept mail from johnathan mcluvins instead of jonathan smith?
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InvisibleMind
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How about this, do all the stuff mentioned above so the purchase isn’t traceable to you, then use a fake name, and once it arrives, hold onto it without opening it for a week or so, maybe write a little sticky note on it that says “return to sender this weekend” or something like that, wait enough time to where if you were going to get raided it would have happened, so if you do get raided, you can say it isn’t yours and you’ve were going to try to figure out who it was for, since you haven’t opened it, you can convincingly say that. With all that there is absolutely no way anyone could prove it’s yours. And if you dont get raided after a week or 2 your in the clear to open it and enjoy. How is anyone going to know it’s a fake name anyways?
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You do you bro. I am just telling you the general consensus is that using fake names is not recommended. What difference do you think it will make? If they come to your door with a warent they are going to arrest you either way.
P.s. if it makes you feel better some people create a fake business name and order with that. I suggest mailing yourself something to that name so that your order is not the first letter coming in with that name.
Think about, you probably get bills and that is about it, then a letter shows up from outside the country to a name not usually recieving mail at that address. Red flag.
And that is not even getting into the real possibility that customs has a list of people and addresses from a variety of sources like the irs that could be easily cross referenced and those not matching given extra scrutiny.
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InvisibleMind said: then use a fake name, and once it arrives, hold onto it without opening it for a week or so,
Sometimes the post office put a note in your mailbox and you have to go down and pick it up, showing ID. If you used a fake name you lose it forever. My mailman knows my name, he won't put a package addressed to someone else in my mailbox.
Use your real name and deny you ordered, your ex wife framed you. Using a fake name or sending to an abandoned house is stupid and overkill and if you claim to the vendor you never got it after doing stupid shit like that you suck.
It's not illegal but they charge people for sheets and expect them to plea out. This guy was charged with importing over 100 hits of ALD 52. People got caught in that wave because the vendor used the same packaging and return address for everything, and they found one first, then it was easy to find all of them. Very few people actually came forward to say they were charged, it was all reports of packages that didn't show.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26209821
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Re: How risky is ordering 1-p lsd? (moved) [Re: InvisibleMind]
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This thread was moved from The Psychedelic Experience.
Reason: Proper forum here.
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Doc9151
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InvisibleMind said: How can they “bust you” anyways for something that isn’t illegal? And how can they legally confiscate something that isn’t illegal?
Schedule 1 analog laws. They are infact illegal to consume, just as illegal as LSD. It is legal to study it with a microscope or testing how long it takes to break down in water or other experiments that don't require consumption. Would be hard to prove that it isn't for consumption unless you are a legit scientist.
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InvisibleMind said: But also impossible to prove it IS for consumption, so how can they do anything at customs or anything else unless they saw you put it on your tounge?
They don't have to prove that you planned on consuming it, you have no legitimate reason to have it in your possession if you're not a legit scientist!!!!
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Re: How risky is ordering 1-p lsd? [Re: Rise against] 1
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InvisibleMind said: How can they “bust you” anyways for something that isn’t illegal? And how can they legally confiscate something that isn’t illegal?
You'd think it should be impossible to prove a double negative. How on earth can they claim you weren't intending to use it for research? Why should you have to prove your scientific credentials at all if you're "innocent until proven guilty"? Plenty of people study chemistry without a degree.
But the US government is staffed with some real boneheaded folks. Cops thought donut crumbs were meth. And the system is already designed to put you under as much pressure as possible to entice you to plea to their demands. Best case, you'll do minimal time and waste a ton of money on a lawyer arguing the law is still grey.
I think people in this field need to get creative and start thinking about religious freedoms a little more differently. As well as the argument that real healthcare doesn't actually exist in America, so you should have the freedom to try whatever cure/solution to your ailment. The government shouldn't impede freedom of religion and human rights.
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