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First time with gourmet, strange lions mane
    #27117876 - 12/31/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Hello

Anybody know what kind of mushroom it is ? I've bought this culture as lions mane, but maybe supplier made mistake and sent me something different. Before fruiting, mycelium had mild anise scent, but now its scentless.

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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27117881 - 12/31/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: The Mycologist]
    #27117905 - 12/31/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Def not LM or maybe the culture got inter species contam from another strain .  Reduce co2 levels to let the caps grow better.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27117954 - 12/31/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Those look very much like too-dry oyster mushroom pins. What do they taste like? They are definitely not amanita, so it should be possible to sample safely.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27118088 - 12/31/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

sonorano, I have seen your post about pink oysters, and my mushrooms look very similar to oyster pins from your picture.

I picked one and it has no smell or taste, I think they are oysters without enough fresh air exchange


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27118397 - 12/31/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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Those look very much like too-dry oyster mushroom pins




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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27118551 - 12/31/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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sonorano, I have seen your post about pink oysters, and my mushrooms look very similar to oyster pins from your picture.

I picked one and it has no smell or taste, I think they are oysters without enough fresh air exchange




Yup, that makes a lot of sense. I've grown lions mane from a pre-inoculated sawdust "log" and I know that the fruits look and smell completely different from oyster mushrooms. Your original report that it smells like anise seems consistent as well.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27119747 - 01/01/21 06:32 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

guys, could you explain me why they are too dry ? I'm very rookie mushroom grower

I've inoculated 4 litres of soaked and squeezed cardboard with one litre of WBS spawn. During colonization cardboard seemed bit too wet for me, because there's been some water at bottom of the bag. Since inoculation I keep it my DIY greenhouse fruiting chamber. I have humidifier, controlled by timer switch, with hose attached to fruiting chamber. There is humidity meter inside, RH is always around 100%. I compared this humimeter yesterday with two different meters and all readings were same. Little water droplets are everywhere inside fruiting chamber, so what may be wrong ? 

I have two baking plates of fruiting cubes in this chamber, and they are full of nice mushrooms.

Maybe co2 is the problem ? I have only half opened, zipper green house door as fresh air source. Maybe it is not enough for fruiting oysters ?


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27119833 - 01/01/21 07:44 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Likely it's not enough fresh air exchange. Oysters love fresh air. Perhaps opening the greenhouse more would help, but really what you want is an exhaust fan that can refresh the air completely 6 times an hour.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27121251 - 01/01/21 10:32 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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I've inoculated 4 litres of soaked and squeezed cardboard with one litre of WBS spawn. ...




Since you started out expecting lions mane, does that mean you intended to use cardboard as a substrate for lions mane? The only lions mane I've grown was on a pre-inoculated "log." I've heard that oysters are happy with everything from newspaper to straw, but lions mane is more specific to wood.

Shroomsisay01 has chided me hard about using just cardboard or wood with oysters, but this is about production, not whether the grow will work at all. If anyone has had success with lions mane on other substrates, I'd like to know!


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27124043 - 01/03/21 02:07 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

I have free access to lots of cardboard and I'd like to learn basics of growing mushrooms as cheap as it's possible :wink:

Some time ago,  I've searched internet about growing mushrooms on carboard, I've seen few successful grows with other species than oysters, and it is possible with lions mane as well. Cardboard is low nutritious, so yields are low but it's resistant to contamination. I wanted to check is it possible to grow lions mane on unpasteurized cardboard, just soaked in water, but they've sent me wrong culture.

I've read, they are some ways to boost a bit nutrition of carboard. By using more grain spawn to substrate ratio, cold pasteurization with lime or soap, soaking cardboard in organic or chemical fertilizer (this way is risky without heat pasteurization or sterilization). I going to check all these, in near future.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: ironmikezetuk]
    #27124979 - 01/03/21 11:23 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

If you want to experiment with cardboard i would suggest an oyster mushroom. try adding lime to water you hydrate with at 1% to reduce contamination. Also experiement with sodium percarbonate in the hydration water to fight off contams during spawn run.

Cardboard imo is a little like junk food. Not very nutritious and somewhat easy for competitors to grab onto. I think it is fun to utilize and like you say it can be found in excess.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: deadmandave]
    #27125872 - 01/04/21 11:09 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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... Cardboard imo is a little like junk food. Not very nutritious and somewhat easy for competitors to grab onto. I think it is fun to utilize and like you say it can be found in excess.




I don't think I've ever seen competitors growing on cardboard. The way I've gone wrong is when I didn't use boiling water on the cardboard, and that was for a Cube grow. It started growing Trychoderma long before the first flush came up.

This is what I get much more typically, a clump of California oysters that will be perfect with dinner tonight. When the caps start to lighten, that's my signal to harvest. They start out blue or gray.


Substrate is mostly egg cartons with about 10 percent coffee grounds. I soaked with boiling-hot water to pasteurize in a cooler, left it about an hour.  The cardboard soaked up all the moisture, so no need to drain it. Then added spawn grown on racehorse oats, about 1/3 of a quart-jar to the block. I'm trying out additions of wood pellets and other materials. If you are able to get hold of a real lion's mane culture and grow on a mostly cardboard substrate without having to sterilize it, I'd really like to hear!


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27125939 - 01/04/21 11:34 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

That's great sonoramo. Trich is the main competitor I'm referring to. Also I see some black pin molds show up on cardboard that stays wet but not colonized. Like if you were to use a box as a fruiting container.



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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: deadmandave]
    #27125975 - 01/04/21 11:48 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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... Like if you were to use a box as a fruiting container.






Sweet! What's in the box? Straw? Cardboard?... :smirk:

Also, don't you get gnats and bugs attacking your fruits if you let them grow outside? I'm in the Bay Area with a very mild climate, so if I have a way to safely move fruiting containers outside like you have, that would be really handy.


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Re: First time with gourmet, strange lions mane [Re: sonoramo]
    #27125992 - 01/04/21 11:55 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Probably straw but might have cardboard mixed in. There are always bugs outside so you need to harvest while the mushrooms are still young before the bugs can burrow in and lay eggs.


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