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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125187 - 01/04/21 03:54 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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It does seem to be an issue of the rich and famous.

Anyone else got a real life example?




I do. One time we were all at a BBQ, and half my family is black. Someone said the n-word, a poor white person. And we all threatened to beat his ass if he ever came back. He got cancelled from our social circle. The dude wasn't cancelled from ALL social circles. Just ours.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #27125213 - 01/04/21 04:20 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

That's pretty outrageous, especially for family. Hateful muppets.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125222 - 01/04/21 04:27 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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That's pretty outrageous, especially for family. Hateful muppets.




People are pretty good or get pretty good at hiding bigotry. Also, a lot of people rely on OTHERS BELIVING THEM they aren't racist when they say they arent. 99% of the time other people decide who you are, you do not get to.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #27125231 - 01/04/21 04:35 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Social judgement is an evil thing. Being racist in mind is not a crime nor an excommunicable offense, this is not 1984.

I'm a liar every day when I work. Model citizen, heck man I don't even drink. :rolleyes:

Family being cunts like that though... geez, there's not even a HR department involved.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125235 - 01/04/21 04:39 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Social judgement is an evil thing. Being racist in mind is not a crime nor an excommunicable offense, this is not 1984.

I'm a liar every day when I work. Model citizen, heck man I don't even drink. :rolleyes:

Family being cunts like that though... geez, there's not even a HR department involved.




It never was. In fact, the only tools to fight bigotry, imo, and in the order they should be used: Discussion, Shame into hiding, Violence. All three are necessary, but the first two are the most effective and also rely on the third existing to work. Social judgement is great. Judging people is great. I judge people based on their actions regularly and adjust attitude according to suit. In fact, 99% percent of the world thinks of me as a monster or subhuman. Turning the other cheek is not what successful people do.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125257 - 01/04/21 04:56 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

No. Just no.

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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125261 - 01/04/21 05:00 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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No. Just no.

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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #27125267 - 01/04/21 05:06 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

As are people who cannot see it.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125269 - 01/04/21 05:07 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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As are people who cannot see it.




Well come up with a better way to fight bigotry?
otherwise you are pretty much useless.
PROTIP: you cannot and or either will refuse to.
FACTS.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125276 - 01/04/21 05:12 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Creeds of hate and violence even in retaliation are poor form. Just straight up no.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125280 - 01/04/21 05:14 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Creeds of hate and violence even in retaliation are poor form. Just straight up no.




Yeah, politeness is for sissies and losers. If someone is polite I just try to steamroller over them and it has gotten me ahead in life and never has gotten me behind. Violence is also the LAST resort, do you even read?


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125302 - 01/04/21 05:37 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

There's much to be said about manners and decorum.

I'm not racist or any sort of crazy, but I don't agree with changing minds via violence. You know, why don't we bomb democracy into some poor cunts? It may be an idealistic dream but we know what's right hey?

It applies internally as well. You can't just eliminate people socially and expect them to stop existing. It doesn't go away, they don't go away. They don't stop existing, they just hate you for being an absolute cunt to them.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125318 - 01/04/21 05:49 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)


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There's much to be said about manners and decorum.

I'm not racist or any sort of crazy, but I don't agree with changing minds via violence. You know, why don't we bomb democracy into some poor cunts? It may be an idealistic dream but we know what's right hey?

It applies internally as well. You can't just eliminate people socially and expect them to stop existing. It doesn't go away, they don't go away. They don't stop existing, they just hate you for being an absolute cunt to them.




I said MY social circle. MINE. Not social circles in general. I never said Id eliminate people socially and stop them from existing. Man, you literally didn"t read anything I said, I feel.

See where I said>  The dude wasn't cancelled from ALL social circles. Just ours.


\That is me AGREEING with you. Jeez.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #27125330 - 01/04/21 05:59 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Okay cool, I'm totally sure we'd have no problem irl. Excuse my manners mate, I've been drinking a bit and am about to wind it up for the night.

We've rejected people as well for being scumbugs. They deserve it. Never bashed one for being a POS though, but I can't rule it out.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner]
    #27125332 - 01/04/21 06:01 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Okay cool, I'm totally sure we'd have no problem irl. Excuse my manners mate, I've been drinking a bit and am about to wind it up for the night.

We've rejected people as well for being scumbugs. They deserve it. Never bashed one for being a POS though, but I can't rule it out.




Im not welcome in most social circles because im trans
I do not feel welcome at the shroomery because I am trans
I do not feel welcome here in general
I still come here cause I find the content here to be whatever
so I post my own version of whatever despite these feelings.
I consider this this website socially conservative leaning.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #27125372 - 01/04/21 06:30 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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There's the regular fake nice, but I think Cracked Egg's in-laws sound like the brand of fake-nice that wants you to know it's fake




I've thought this before, but they are so high on their own pedestal that they, in their heads, believe that I am buying their bullshit.




Don't sweat it man, those types think the way they do and won't change except for maybe a situation involving public embarrassment.  Don't worry, walk tall


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    #27125384 - 01/04/21 06:38 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

No stress hey. It's cool as long as we're not burning dunbasses at the stake imho.

Don't let your illusions become reality though, don't let your sexuality become your identity. No one has ever asked my sexuality here in all these years. I could be a sheep loving, cross dressing, hammer swinging, bench pressing, everything sexual but it didn't come up in conversation. No one cares.

Do you want support for being you? What about everyone else?

We're all trippers here. We all feel alone. It's not being trans that brings that on.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Apollyphelion] * 1
    #27125394 - 01/04/21 06:43 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Im not welcome in most social circles because im trans
I do not feel welcome at the shroomery because I am trans




Most people here don’t care.  I don’t even know why you brought it up.

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I do not feel welcome here in general


I like your marble-rolling videos.

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I still come here cause I find the content here to be whatever


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so I post my own version of whatever despite these feelings.


good for you.

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I consider this this website socially conservative leaning.


I disagree.  You lost me here.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #27125445 - 01/04/21 07:19 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Im not welcome in most social circles because im trans
I do not feel welcome at the shroomery because I am trans




Most people here don’t care.  I don’t even know why you brought it up.

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I do not feel welcome here in general


I like your marble-rolling videos.

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I still come here cause I find the content here to be whatever


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so I post my own version of whatever despite these feelings.


good for you.

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I consider this this website socially conservative leaning.


I disagree.  You lost me here.




Because we are talking about social circles? Did you lose context of discussion that quick? There is a pretty logical train of thought going on here, very normal point A to point B stuff. My participation here isn't substantially different than anyone.


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Re: Sensitivity levels... 7 [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27125456 - 01/04/21 07:24 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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No stress hey. It's cool as long as we're not burning dunbasses at the stake imho.

Don't let your illusions become reality though, don't let your sexuality become your identity. No one has ever asked my sexuality here in all these years. I could be a sheep loving, cross dressing, hammer swinging, bench pressing, everything sexual but it didn't come up in conversation. No one cares.

Do you want support for being you? What about everyone else?

We're all trippers here. We all feel alone. It's not being trans that brings that on.




I didn't mention my sexuality. Im into heterosexual men, since my sexuality is considered the majority, I actually do not need support for it, it is considered the default. Unfortunately, it is OTHER people that MAKE my identity about being trans. But to pretend it doesnt color my world view or affect how I interact with people is a lie....The same way we cant pretend a tall person and short person see the world the same and are treated the same. It"s like saying TALL MEN are treated the SAME EXACT WAY by society as SHORT MEN. Thats clearly a lie if some one were to claim that. And this is all on topic. We are talking about social circles, removing people from them, and fitting in,


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