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Re: Metaphysical zombie. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27115185 - 12/29/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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...collusion with what they hope to remediate.




It may take a leap of imagination to perceive how the raising of passion can be a vehicle of redemption, of returning to somebody's good graces, and who could fault an instance of greater love?


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Re: Metaphysical zombie. [Re: sudly]
    #27115241 - 12/29/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Metaphysical zombie. [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #27115262 - 12/30/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Buster_brown said: critics who succumb eventually to the human tendency to profit from deceit, thus exposing themselves to a judgment of hypocrisy and a collusion with what they hope to remediate.




The critics of charlatans become charlatans?

How does someone calling out a snake oil salesman become what they have exposed?

Is James Randi a hypocrite for exposing James Hydrick?

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Re: Metaphysical zombie. [Re: sudly]
    #27115407 - 12/30/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Penalizing deceit by one who habitually commits deceit would be hypocritical; whether or not Randi habitually deceives would be a matter of observation.

I'm touching on elevated passion as an end in itself such as taking a hammer to a washing machine and "Who can we sacrifice next to return ourselves to a state of grace?" type of collusion, where sacrifice of oneself to an appetite can be a greater love.

I guess 'Forfeiture' is the allusion in Conrad's "all-fours":

"I knew once a Scotch sailmaker who was certain, dead sure, there were people in Mars. If you asked him for some idea how they looked and behaved, he would get shy and mutter something about 'walking on all-fours.'


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