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Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy * 1
    #27110958 - 12/27/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences. It feels like it improves the karma of food so that I feel alright after eating large amounts of meat. And on acid, drinking water which has been blessed with their stuff felt like sweet divine Amrit straight from the gods' own goblet. But blessing my drugs with it was such a different thing. The experiences have been radiant! I've always had better acid trips than with shrooms, but this made for a really nice gentle positive mushroom experience where I chanted ॐ and made good again my relationship with my girlfriend over the phone. And then LSD was out of this world! I was seeing full on alien landscapes, unbelievably beautiful like out of a film on a TV set from the year 2400, most noticeably when I listened to iAwake Technologies audios like iAwake Infinity and also this lecture from Ken Wilber, my favourite philosopher. And this was only 100 micrograms! I couldn't believe I was seeing bona fide aliens on a hundred mics, and later on 200 mics, when I visualised the image in my profile picture, things got cosmically trippy like universes were represented by tiny lines on its surface and all alternates were represented with equality and respect by the lovely beings who took care of cosmic coincidence. Also looking at a moai was probably the most significant thing I've ever seen. What an ancient, beautiful being. Words like 'quicksilver wraithbone tang' came off it like skin off a snake.


Then, for Christmas Eve, I blessed 2c-b with the Nano Silver mandala and I had visions for about 9 hours. My friend and I went to midnight mass together and I kept my psychedelic state a secret from him all night while having a major religious experience, communing with Christ and יהוה‎ and Hoa Hakananai'a in the church. Then I met this guy after my friend left and befriended him, and gave him a revelation from the Hindu and Buddhist traditions which he said changed his outlook on life for the better. He heartfully spoke the sacred syllable with me and acknowledged his divine nature. It was a really magical Christmas Eve and morning - the best of my life. When I got home, I did some standing up meditation and then went to bed, where visuals continued similar to a sub-breakthrough dose of DMT. It was really nice to just lay there and feel completely friends with the substance, like we could just lie there and hallucinate with no sense of control, and it was really gentle and kind rather than some wild trippy thing more like as though some advanced entity was stimulating my brain just how I liked it, or like as though my higher self had been given access to the switches in my brain for an extended round of transcendental masturbation.

I'm excited to see what happens when I shine some light from an image of a UFO on my phone through some liquid acid. I predict a similar effect to the subtle energy mandalas, but more intense and cosmic. Wish me luck!

EDIT: If you want to try it without paying, just bless your drugs with the subtle energy from the website itself and it will do just fine :smile:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma]
    #27111567 - 12/28/20 02:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Great post!

May I suggest the following book to supplement your journey, if subtle energy is something that interests you:



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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 2
    #27111954 - 12/28/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I recommend observing the phenomena you refer to as energy, and letting these experiences unfold in their own way.

Most here use the term "energy" when considering experiences where they see a color or light flash or glow and at the same time feel a tingle, tickle, heat, or coolth passing in some part of the body.

These experiences are correctly understood as synesthesia. a mix or mashup of more than one sense at a time. This is totally normal with psychedelics.

By all means do research what others have written about their experiences and consider the volumes of claims of meaning in books about occult energy with discernment.

If possible obtain free copies and read those before paying money into any woohoo flim flam organizations that claim to know what is going on with secret energy pathways and scientifically undetectable 'energy'.

I think it is better to admit ignorance than to expound fake information.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 4
    #27112307 - 12/28/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Rahma said:
Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences.





:rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:


This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time. That site is selling pictures that one downloads onto their phones or computers, and those pictures are claimed to do things like prevent allergies or have the power/properties of plants like cannabis or being able to detox one's body. :rolleyes:

What in the actual fuck?

I can't believe someone actually came up with this crap and can't believe anyone would drop money on such a scam.





https://subtle.energy/allergy-relief/

"Simply put, our Quantum Energy Apps are energetically encoded digital pictures that transform your electronic devices into quantum resonance tools that support you for greater health and well-being and peak performance."

"Just open the energetically encoded image file on your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet. The quantum energy patterns will now be automatically and continuously broadcast through your electronic device!"

"As soon as it is opened, it will immediately broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns."



They even have one for coffee. https://subtle.energy/strong-coffee/

For $27 one can download a picture of coffee beans :rolleyes: .

"Enjoy the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee.
Transform your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet into powerful energy-boosting devices! Strong Coffee looks like a simple, attractive picture featuring beautiful digital art, but it’s really a powerful form of vibrational technology encoded with energetic pulses designed to reproduce the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee."


How the fuck, by what mechanism does a picture on a phone or computer "broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns"?....And how the fuck does quantum vibrational energy patterns that are "broadcasted from a picture on a phone" prevent one from getting allergies or do something like detox one's body?





I consider myself to be a pretty sensitive person and pick up on/sense many subtle things/energies, and I also consider myself to be a pretty open minded fella....

....but to me everything on that site is nothing but a scam that uses a bunch of big fluffy new age words to push a hollow product, it has no real "substance" and no real essence with no real influence/impact in the real world beyond that of placebo.






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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27113155 - 12/28/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Rahma said:
Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences.





:rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:


This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time. That site is selling pictures that one downloads onto their phones or computers, and those pictures are claimed to do things like prevent allergies or have the power/properties of plants like cannabis or being able to detox one's body. :rolleyes:

What in the actual fuck?

I can't believe someone actually came up with this crap and can't believe anyone would drop money on such a scam.





https://subtle.energy/allergy-relief/

"Simply put, our Quantum Energy Apps are energetically encoded digital pictures that transform your electronic devices into quantum resonance tools that support you for greater health and well-being and peak performance."

"Just open the energetically encoded image file on your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet. The quantum energy patterns will now be automatically and continuously broadcast through your electronic device!"

"As soon as it is opened, it will immediately broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns."



They even have one for coffee. https://subtle.energy/strong-coffee/

For $27 one can download a picture of coffee beans :rolleyes: .

"Enjoy the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee.
Transform your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet into powerful energy-boosting devices! Strong Coffee looks like a simple, attractive picture featuring beautiful digital art, but it’s really a powerful form of vibrational technology encoded with energetic pulses designed to reproduce the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee."


How the fuck, by what mechanism does a picture on a phone or computer "broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns"?....And how the fuck does quantum vibrational energy patterns that are "broadcasted from a picture on a phone" prevent one from getting allergies or do something like detox one's body?





I consider myself to be a pretty sensitive person and pick up on/sense many subtle things/energies, and I also consider myself to be a pretty open minded fella....

....but to me everything on that site is nothing but a scam that uses a bunch of big fluffy new age words to push a hollow product, it has no real "substance" and no real essence with no real influence/impact in the real world beyond that of placebo.






-OM

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Harsh but have to agree. A new poster/member who suddenly shows up linking us to these websites is almost certainly plugging these products IMO. Shroomery probably seems like a good place to start for all things woo-woo related!


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: wolf8312]
    #27113388 - 12/29/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Wow. I keep my lsd in water bottles. I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.

Have you ever made a crystal grid for your psychedelics?

As for my mushrooms, I can just put the entire bag on top of a crystal.


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    #27114169 - 12/29/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 1
    #27114218 - 12/29/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time.




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Harsh but have to agree.




Positive vibes to you guys. It's a healthy attitude of open-minded skepticism that is the mainstay of a psychedelic mind because the experience is so powerful that it reveals itself to those who don't believe in it. I am just sharing my experience that blessing the drugs seems to make the effects kinder and more potent. If you want to try it for yourself without buying anything, then just use the website itself, which projects a subtle energy field, to imbue your drugs.

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I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.



Sounds like a great idea to me. Made sure your crystal is charged, of course. I leave mine in the ground overnight :smile:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 1
    #27114762 - 12/29/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 3
    #27114985 - 12/29/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

And here we go... :aliceshocker:

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I couldn't believe I was seeing bona fide aliens




Hmm, could you explain what the difference is between bona fide aliens and the other kind?  :thataintright:







Well I gotta add, I find that the care that goes into growing the mushrooms shows in  the quality of the trip. 

And I've had some interesting results with quartz crystals during high-dose trips, things that are hard to explain fully, but also with other totemic items that I've collected. 

It could be said that they possess some sort of subtle energy potential, which I assume psychedelics amplify, or so it seems.  But not the other way round - I've never felt any need to bless drugs. 

Rather I bless the trip itself and that always seems to work well. :snoopyes:

But your experiences are interesting, OP, carry on. 

OTOH if you are shilling for the site, then burn horribly in hell. :laugh2:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #27115695 - 12/30/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lots of bona fide voodoo.

I think any form of voodoo is purely political, and nothing to do with a 2 party system either.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #27116214 - 12/30/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.





I and no one else in this thread is calling bull shit on things relating to "subtle energy" in general.....

...But I am certainly, absolutely, calling bullshit on the website that is selling digital pictures for $27 that they claim can do things like prevent allergies or give one a coffee buzz or instil the properties of various medicinal plants.

With that said...I am also extremely skeptical and have my doubts about Dr. Emoto's work as well.






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Harsh but have to agree. A new poster/member who suddenly shows up linking us to these websites is almost certainly plugging these products IMO. Shroomery probably seems like a good place to start for all things woo-woo related!





I was being a bit harsh, no doubt. And that's something I rarely am.

But I have very little patience for what I feel & consider to be a straight up scam/fake, something that uses a bunch of fluffy "woke" woo-woo words to make it sound like photographs on a screen will emit some sort of "quantum frequency" that will affect & influence the physiology and cognition and physical & mental well being of a person.

Lots of woo-woo new-age folks don't really have any doubts on things like that or use hard-logic and just buy what ever crap that they think will boost their spirituality/woke-ness...And the "products" on that website totally take advantage of that. Or the people that created it truly believe in their own bullshit (which I also see a lot in these new-age woo-woo folks).





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Well I gotta add, I find that the care that goes into growing the mushrooms shows in  the quality of the trip. 

And I've had some interesting results with quartz crystals during high-dose trips, things that are hard to explain fully, but also with other totemic items that I've collected. 

It could be said that they possess some sort of subtle energy potential, which I assume psychedelics amplify, or so it seems.  But not the other way round - I've never felt any need to bless drugs. 

Rather I bless the trip itself and that always seems to work well. :snoopyes:

But your experiences are interesting, OP, carry on. 

OTOH if you are shilling for the site, then burn horribly in hell. :laugh2:





:werd:

I do feel that the "energy" one puts into their creations and the plants/fungi they grow/raise can shine through at the end, no doubt.

I do feel there is a such thing as "subtle energies" and one having a "subtle body" ...

...and I even feel there is likely a lot more to crystals other than just looking really cool aesthetically lol.

I believe & feel that there's all sorts of "magical" & mysterious things about the nature of our existence/reality that we haven't figured out yet (or that we have forgotten about or lost touch with long long ago)......



I'm just often conflicted about things related to these topics since I am someone who is extremely skeptical and has a lot of doubt about anything meta-physical, as one who tends to approach most things with "logical" thought....My "default" is very much a cold scientific logical thinker that seeks out concrete truth (I never once even believed in Santa Claus lol, I called bullshit on that stuff when I was like 4 to 5 years old lol).

....but over the years I've become much more open to meta-physics and what not, I certainly believe that everything has an essence/spirit to it, and I actually have some pretty far out ideas and even have some beliefs that my past-self would certainly label "woo-woo" lol. I've become much more open to such things over the years, a lot of which was the result of my own direct experience and from my own thoughts & ponderings about this "existence" & situation I find myself in. No doubt my experiences with psychedelics have played a big roll in me becoming more open to such things.


When it comes to things like making "crystal grids" or putting various crystals in one's water for different sorts of effects or using crystals to "bless" or "charge" things like mushrooms...I'm open to it, but I do have a very difficult time believing that sort of stuff and feel there's a lot of placebo going on there.

But when it comes to downloading pictures on one's phone for a coffee buzz or to prevent allergies or to receive the benefits of the cannabis plant....to me that is just straight up bull shit, I'm not open to that at all. I call it what it is, a scam.





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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 2
    #27116273 - 12/30/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Correlation vs Causation any one?

  I don't know guys. To me the true sign of spirituality is a person that does not follow ideologies blindly. People are crazy and when we are left to our own devices especially in an echo chamber we can get pretty crazy.

  Also: this is bullshit. A lot more research needs to be done before we go off making such claims.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27117370 - 12/31/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Correlation vs Causation any one?

  I don't know guys. To me the true sign of spirituality is a person that does not follow ideologies blindly. People are crazy and when we are left to our own devices especially in an echo chamber we can get pretty crazy.

  Also: this is bullshit. A lot more research needs to be done before we go off making such claims.




This is basically what I said above; a good teacher is going to guide you to learning for yourself, and finding for yourself. They point you to the doorway, you have to walk through it. Also, what you just said goes both ways regarding echo chambers, and applies more regularly, and intensely, to politics and even materialist science than it would this topic. This could just get lumped in with conspiracy if anything.

It's fun watching people (not calling you out) pretend to be rational while exemplifying the same behavior they claim to be above, in another area, which then rationally makes one a selective skeptic, lol.

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I and no one else in this thread is calling bull shit on things relating to "subtle energy" in general.....

...But I am certainly, absolutely, calling bullshit on the website that is selling digital pictures for $27 that they claim can do things like prevent allergies or give one a coffee buzz or instil the properties of various medicinal plants.

With that said...I am also extremely skeptical and have my doubts about Dr. Emoto's work as well.





I'm happy you made this distinction clear, because in the smoke fight above, it was hard to see who the hell was saying what.

It's good to have healthy skepticism of these ideas, it will help weed out the fluff, and that's where the real "magick" is, if it ever existed in the first place.

A safe, happy, healthy New Year's to you (and all in this thread) :cheers:!


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma]
    #27117446 - 12/31/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.



That was disproved more than a decade ago. Try and recreate it... so simple.

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lots of bona fide voodoo.

I think any form of voodoo is purely political, and nothing to do with a 2 party system either.



Yeah, make believe nonsense.

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This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time.




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Harsh but have to agree.




Positive vibes to you guys. It's a healthy attitude of open-minded skepticism that is the mainstay of a psychedelic mind because the experience is so powerful that it reveals itself to those who don't believe in it. I am just sharing my experience that blessing the drugs seems to make the effects kinder and more potent. If you want to try it for yourself without buying anything, then just use the website itself, which projects a subtle energy field, to imbue your drugs.

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I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.



Sounds like a great idea to me. Made sure your crystal is charged, of course. I leave mine in the ground overnight :smile:



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    #27117576 - 12/31/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Do not drink the water that has had any crystals or Stones put into them. It can cause kidney damage. You can use it topically on the skin though. When you charge water with a crystal you just put the crystal on the outside of the glass or the clear plastic and the water absorbs the light from the crystal.

At the end of the day, all energy is white light. I believe crystals are part of electromagnetism and quantum physics. I think quantum physics is what connects everything in the universe. Everything is in waves that go outward.

On an acid trip one time, I was holding onto a Himalayan black quartz point and it felt very grounding.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 3
    #27117768 - 12/31/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.


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    #27117903 - 12/31/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

those sparks can have effect that is indirect to the sparks different for each crystal particularly merlinite can be quite powerful and have quite significant function effect
the effects are different for each stone


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #27118057 - 12/31/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

We shouldn't forget the placebo effect.

And OP, positive vibes are not the only important vibes. Neutral vibes, negative vibes, pseudo vibes, charge-less vibes etc also matter.
(I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek but also serious).

The whole spectrum of energy, vibes, emotions etc, matters, not just the "good" and the "positive".


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    #27119149 - 12/31/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.



Believe me, I know I need to take a physics class. I want to take all of my math first (calculus 1-3) so that the math aspect of physics will be easier to understand.

I can't take inorganic chemistry until after I've taken organic chemistry 2.

I think intention is important in both Crystal healing and psychedelics.
Intention is like the self fulfilling prophesy. I don't think crystals would do anything to blotters but if you have your lsd suspended in a water bottle, then the water can be charged with a crystal or stone.


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