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Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy * 1
    #27110958 - 12/27/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences. It feels like it improves the karma of food so that I feel alright after eating large amounts of meat. And on acid, drinking water which has been blessed with their stuff felt like sweet divine Amrit straight from the gods' own goblet. But blessing my drugs with it was such a different thing. The experiences have been radiant! I've always had better acid trips than with shrooms, but this made for a really nice gentle positive mushroom experience where I chanted ॐ and made good again my relationship with my girlfriend over the phone. And then LSD was out of this world! I was seeing full on alien landscapes, unbelievably beautiful like out of a film on a TV set from the year 2400, most noticeably when I listened to iAwake Technologies audios like iAwake Infinity and also this lecture from Ken Wilber, my favourite philosopher. And this was only 100 micrograms! I couldn't believe I was seeing bona fide aliens on a hundred mics, and later on 200 mics, when I visualised the image in my profile picture, things got cosmically trippy like universes were represented by tiny lines on its surface and all alternates were represented with equality and respect by the lovely beings who took care of cosmic coincidence. Also looking at a moai was probably the most significant thing I've ever seen. What an ancient, beautiful being. Words like 'quicksilver wraithbone tang' came off it like skin off a snake.


Then, for Christmas Eve, I blessed 2c-b with the Nano Silver mandala and I had visions for about 9 hours. My friend and I went to midnight mass together and I kept my psychedelic state a secret from him all night while having a major religious experience, communing with Christ and יהוה‎ and Hoa Hakananai'a in the church. Then I met this guy after my friend left and befriended him, and gave him a revelation from the Hindu and Buddhist traditions which he said changed his outlook on life for the better. He heartfully spoke the sacred syllable with me and acknowledged his divine nature. It was a really magical Christmas Eve and morning - the best of my life. When I got home, I did some standing up meditation and then went to bed, where visuals continued similar to a sub-breakthrough dose of DMT. It was really nice to just lay there and feel completely friends with the substance, like we could just lie there and hallucinate with no sense of control, and it was really gentle and kind rather than some wild trippy thing more like as though some advanced entity was stimulating my brain just how I liked it, or like as though my higher self had been given access to the switches in my brain for an extended round of transcendental masturbation.

I'm excited to see what happens when I shine some light from an image of a UFO on my phone through some liquid acid. I predict a similar effect to the subtle energy mandalas, but more intense and cosmic. Wish me luck!

EDIT: If you want to try it without paying, just bless your drugs with the subtle energy from the website itself and it will do just fine :smile:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma]
    #27111567 - 12/28/20 02:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Great post!

May I suggest the following book to supplement your journey, if subtle energy is something that interests you:



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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 2
    #27111954 - 12/28/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I recommend observing the phenomena you refer to as energy, and letting these experiences unfold in their own way.

Most here use the term "energy" when considering experiences where they see a color or light flash or glow and at the same time feel a tingle, tickle, heat, or coolth passing in some part of the body.

These experiences are correctly understood as synesthesia. a mix or mashup of more than one sense at a time. This is totally normal with psychedelics.

By all means do research what others have written about their experiences and consider the volumes of claims of meaning in books about occult energy with discernment.

If possible obtain free copies and read those before paying money into any woohoo flim flam organizations that claim to know what is going on with secret energy pathways and scientifically undetectable 'energy'.

I think it is better to admit ignorance than to expound fake information.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 4
    #27112307 - 12/28/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Rahma said:
Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences.





:rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:


This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time. That site is selling pictures that one downloads onto their phones or computers, and those pictures are claimed to do things like prevent allergies or have the power/properties of plants like cannabis or being able to detox one's body. :rolleyes:

What in the actual fuck?

I can't believe someone actually came up with this crap and can't believe anyone would drop money on such a scam.





https://subtle.energy/allergy-relief/

"Simply put, our Quantum Energy Apps are energetically encoded digital pictures that transform your electronic devices into quantum resonance tools that support you for greater health and well-being and peak performance."

"Just open the energetically encoded image file on your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet. The quantum energy patterns will now be automatically and continuously broadcast through your electronic device!"

"As soon as it is opened, it will immediately broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns."



They even have one for coffee. https://subtle.energy/strong-coffee/

For $27 one can download a picture of coffee beans :rolleyes: .

"Enjoy the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee.
Transform your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet into powerful energy-boosting devices! Strong Coffee looks like a simple, attractive picture featuring beautiful digital art, but it’s really a powerful form of vibrational technology encoded with energetic pulses designed to reproduce the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee."


How the fuck, by what mechanism does a picture on a phone or computer "broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns"?....And how the fuck does quantum vibrational energy patterns that are "broadcasted from a picture on a phone" prevent one from getting allergies or do something like detox one's body?





I consider myself to be a pretty sensitive person and pick up on/sense many subtle things/energies, and I also consider myself to be a pretty open minded fella....

....but to me everything on that site is nothing but a scam that uses a bunch of big fluffy new age words to push a hollow product, it has no real "substance" and no real essence with no real influence/impact in the real world beyond that of placebo.






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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27113155 - 12/28/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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Quote:

Rahma said:
Hey, I've been experimenting with imbuing my food and drink with products from Subtle Energy Sciences.





:rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:


This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time. That site is selling pictures that one downloads onto their phones or computers, and those pictures are claimed to do things like prevent allergies or have the power/properties of plants like cannabis or being able to detox one's body. :rolleyes:

What in the actual fuck?

I can't believe someone actually came up with this crap and can't believe anyone would drop money on such a scam.





https://subtle.energy/allergy-relief/

"Simply put, our Quantum Energy Apps are energetically encoded digital pictures that transform your electronic devices into quantum resonance tools that support you for greater health and well-being and peak performance."

"Just open the energetically encoded image file on your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet. The quantum energy patterns will now be automatically and continuously broadcast through your electronic device!"

"As soon as it is opened, it will immediately broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns."



They even have one for coffee. https://subtle.energy/strong-coffee/

For $27 one can download a picture of coffee beans :rolleyes: .

"Enjoy the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee.
Transform your computer, laptop, smart phone or tablet into powerful energy-boosting devices! Strong Coffee looks like a simple, attractive picture featuring beautiful digital art, but it’s really a powerful form of vibrational technology encoded with energetic pulses designed to reproduce the same benefits as a strong cup of coffee."


How the fuck, by what mechanism does a picture on a phone or computer "broadcast quantum vibrational energy patterns"?....And how the fuck does quantum vibrational energy patterns that are "broadcasted from a picture on a phone" prevent one from getting allergies or do something like detox one's body?





I consider myself to be a pretty sensitive person and pick up on/sense many subtle things/energies, and I also consider myself to be a pretty open minded fella....

....but to me everything on that site is nothing but a scam that uses a bunch of big fluffy new age words to push a hollow product, it has no real "substance" and no real essence with no real influence/impact in the real world beyond that of placebo.






-OM

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Harsh but have to agree. A new poster/member who suddenly shows up linking us to these websites is almost certainly plugging these products IMO. Shroomery probably seems like a good place to start for all things woo-woo related!


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: wolf8312]
    #27113388 - 12/29/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Wow. I keep my lsd in water bottles. I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.

Have you ever made a crystal grid for your psychedelics?

As for my mushrooms, I can just put the entire bag on top of a crystal.


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    #27114169 - 12/29/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 1
    #27114218 - 12/29/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time.




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Harsh but have to agree.




Positive vibes to you guys. It's a healthy attitude of open-minded skepticism that is the mainstay of a psychedelic mind because the experience is so powerful that it reveals itself to those who don't believe in it. I am just sharing my experience that blessing the drugs seems to make the effects kinder and more potent. If you want to try it for yourself without buying anything, then just use the website itself, which projects a subtle energy field, to imbue your drugs.

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I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.



Sounds like a great idea to me. Made sure your crystal is charged, of course. I leave mine in the ground overnight :smile:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 1
    #27114762 - 12/29/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma] * 3
    #27114985 - 12/29/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

And here we go... :aliceshocker:

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I couldn't believe I was seeing bona fide aliens




Hmm, could you explain what the difference is between bona fide aliens and the other kind?  :thataintright:







Well I gotta add, I find that the care that goes into growing the mushrooms shows in  the quality of the trip. 

And I've had some interesting results with quartz crystals during high-dose trips, things that are hard to explain fully, but also with other totemic items that I've collected. 

It could be said that they possess some sort of subtle energy potential, which I assume psychedelics amplify, or so it seems.  But not the other way round - I've never felt any need to bless drugs. 

Rather I bless the trip itself and that always seems to work well. :snoopyes:

But your experiences are interesting, OP, carry on. 

OTOH if you are shilling for the site, then burn horribly in hell. :laugh2:


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #27115695 - 12/30/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 29 days ago)

lots of bona fide voodoo.

I think any form of voodoo is purely political, and nothing to do with a 2 party system either.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #27116214 - 12/30/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

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Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.





I and no one else in this thread is calling bull shit on things relating to "subtle energy" in general.....

...But I am certainly, absolutely, calling bullshit on the website that is selling digital pictures for $27 that they claim can do things like prevent allergies or give one a coffee buzz or instil the properties of various medicinal plants.

With that said...I am also extremely skeptical and have my doubts about Dr. Emoto's work as well.






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wolf8312 said:

Harsh but have to agree. A new poster/member who suddenly shows up linking us to these websites is almost certainly plugging these products IMO. Shroomery probably seems like a good place to start for all things woo-woo related!





I was being a bit harsh, no doubt. And that's something I rarely am.

But I have very little patience for what I feel & consider to be a straight up scam/fake, something that uses a bunch of fluffy "woke" woo-woo words to make it sound like photographs on a screen will emit some sort of "quantum frequency" that will affect & influence the physiology and cognition and physical & mental well being of a person.

Lots of woo-woo new-age folks don't really have any doubts on things like that or use hard-logic and just buy what ever crap that they think will boost their spirituality/woke-ness...And the "products" on that website totally take advantage of that. Or the people that created it truly believe in their own bullshit (which I also see a lot in these new-age woo-woo folks).





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Well I gotta add, I find that the care that goes into growing the mushrooms shows in  the quality of the trip. 

And I've had some interesting results with quartz crystals during high-dose trips, things that are hard to explain fully, but also with other totemic items that I've collected. 

It could be said that they possess some sort of subtle energy potential, which I assume psychedelics amplify, or so it seems.  But not the other way round - I've never felt any need to bless drugs. 

Rather I bless the trip itself and that always seems to work well. :snoopyes:

But your experiences are interesting, OP, carry on. 

OTOH if you are shilling for the site, then burn horribly in hell. :laugh2:





:werd:

I do feel that the "energy" one puts into their creations and the plants/fungi they grow/raise can shine through at the end, no doubt.

I do feel there is a such thing as "subtle energies" and one having a "subtle body" ...

...and I even feel there is likely a lot more to crystals other than just looking really cool aesthetically lol.

I believe & feel that there's all sorts of "magical" & mysterious things about the nature of our existence/reality that we haven't figured out yet (or that we have forgotten about or lost touch with long long ago)......



I'm just often conflicted about things related to these topics since I am someone who is extremely skeptical and has a lot of doubt about anything meta-physical, as one who tends to approach most things with "logical" thought....My "default" is very much a cold scientific logical thinker that seeks out concrete truth (I never once even believed in Santa Claus lol, I called bullshit on that stuff when I was like 4 to 5 years old lol).

....but over the years I've become much more open to meta-physics and what not, I certainly believe that everything has an essence/spirit to it, and I actually have some pretty far out ideas and even have some beliefs that my past-self would certainly label "woo-woo" lol. I've become much more open to such things over the years, a lot of which was the result of my own direct experience and from my own thoughts & ponderings about this "existence" & situation I find myself in. No doubt my experiences with psychedelics have played a big roll in me becoming more open to such things.


When it comes to things like making "crystal grids" or putting various crystals in one's water for different sorts of effects or using crystals to "bless" or "charge" things like mushrooms...I'm open to it, but I do have a very difficult time believing that sort of stuff and feel there's a lot of placebo going on there.

But when it comes to downloading pictures on one's phone for a coffee buzz or to prevent allergies or to receive the benefits of the cannabis plant....to me that is just straight up bull shit, I'm not open to that at all. I call it what it is, a scam.





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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 2
    #27116273 - 12/30/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Correlation vs Causation any one?

  I don't know guys. To me the true sign of spirituality is a person that does not follow ideologies blindly. People are crazy and when we are left to our own devices especially in an echo chamber we can get pretty crazy.

  Also: this is bullshit. A lot more research needs to be done before we go off making such claims.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27117370 - 12/31/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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Correlation vs Causation any one?

  I don't know guys. To me the true sign of spirituality is a person that does not follow ideologies blindly. People are crazy and when we are left to our own devices especially in an echo chamber we can get pretty crazy.

  Also: this is bullshit. A lot more research needs to be done before we go off making such claims.




This is basically what I said above; a good teacher is going to guide you to learning for yourself, and finding for yourself. They point you to the doorway, you have to walk through it. Also, what you just said goes both ways regarding echo chambers, and applies more regularly, and intensely, to politics and even materialist science than it would this topic. This could just get lumped in with conspiracy if anything.

It's fun watching people (not calling you out) pretend to be rational while exemplifying the same behavior they claim to be above, in another area, which then rationally makes one a selective skeptic, lol.

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I and no one else in this thread is calling bull shit on things relating to "subtle energy" in general.....

...But I am certainly, absolutely, calling bullshit on the website that is selling digital pictures for $27 that they claim can do things like prevent allergies or give one a coffee buzz or instil the properties of various medicinal plants.

With that said...I am also extremely skeptical and have my doubts about Dr. Emoto's work as well.





I'm happy you made this distinction clear, because in the smoke fight above, it was hard to see who the hell was saying what.

It's good to have healthy skepticism of these ideas, it will help weed out the fluff, and that's where the real "magick" is, if it ever existed in the first place.

A safe, happy, healthy New Year's to you (and all in this thread) :cheers:!


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Rahma]
    #27117446 - 12/31/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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Those of you who are calling bullshit on this should read about Dr. Emoto. and his research on how consciousness effects water crystals.



That was disproved more than a decade ago. Try and recreate it... so simple.

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lots of bona fide voodoo.

I think any form of voodoo is purely political, and nothing to do with a 2 party system either.



Yeah, make believe nonsense.

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This is BY FAR the most wacky woo-woo new-age fluffy non-sense I've seen in a long time.




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Harsh but have to agree.




Positive vibes to you guys. It's a healthy attitude of open-minded skepticism that is the mainstay of a psychedelic mind because the experience is so powerful that it reveals itself to those who don't believe in it. I am just sharing my experience that blessing the drugs seems to make the effects kinder and more potent. If you want to try it for yourself without buying anything, then just use the website itself, which projects a subtle energy field, to imbue your drugs.

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I'm going to tape a crystal of some sort on the outside of the bottle to charge it with crystal energy.



Sounds like a great idea to me. Made sure your crystal is charged, of course. I leave mine in the ground overnight :smile:



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    #27117576 - 12/31/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Do not drink the water that has had any crystals or Stones put into them. It can cause kidney damage. You can use it topically on the skin though. When you charge water with a crystal you just put the crystal on the outside of the glass or the clear plastic and the water absorbs the light from the crystal.

At the end of the day, all energy is white light. I believe crystals are part of electromagnetism and quantum physics. I think quantum physics is what connects everything in the universe. Everything is in waves that go outward.

On an acid trip one time, I was holding onto a Himalayan black quartz point and it felt very grounding.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 3
    #27117768 - 12/31/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.


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    #27117903 - 12/31/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

those sparks can have effect that is indirect to the sparks different for each crystal particularly merlinite can be quite powerful and have quite significant function effect
the effects are different for each stone


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #27118057 - 12/31/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

We shouldn't forget the placebo effect.

And OP, positive vibes are not the only important vibes. Neutral vibes, negative vibes, pseudo vibes, charge-less vibes etc also matter.
(I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek but also serious).

The whole spectrum of energy, vibes, emotions etc, matters, not just the "good" and the "positive".


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    #27119149 - 12/31/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.



Believe me, I know I need to take a physics class. I want to take all of my math first (calculus 1-3) so that the math aspect of physics will be easier to understand.

I can't take inorganic chemistry until after I've taken organic chemistry 2.

I think intention is important in both Crystal healing and psychedelics.
Intention is like the self fulfilling prophesy. I don't think crystals would do anything to blotters but if you have your lsd suspended in a water bottle, then the water can be charged with a crystal or stone.


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    #27119308 - 12/31/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.




I totally agree.  But remember how strong the mind is, if one believes that the psychedelics are infused with sublte sacred energy, then maybe there trip will be better and deeper or whatever.  It's all psychosomatic, that influences psychedelics and mental processes hugely!  No joke, when I was younger like 5 years ago I thought I found san pedro growing near my house wildly.  I harvested a foot, and processed it like one would with san pedro to make tar.  I ate the tar and thought I was mildly tripping when walking around my neighborhood on a low dose all day.  Turns out the cactus wasn't even san pedro or active at all!  The mind is crazy strong when it comes to altering reality.

Is reality actually altered?  In the perciever it is, and that's all that counts.  Of course the matter isn't changed, but if one perceives it differently and experiences thusly is it any different from it actually changing (even though it doesn't).  So go ahead and infuse things with subtle energy, see how it makes you feel. We all live in our own heads in our own version of reality anyway.

Although I do believe truly that matter can be influenced by energy as in spiritual energy.  But like, you're probably not a spiritually attained monk that has spend decades trying to infuse matter with spiritual energy to practice ya know?


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please google online physics courses for free and take one is all I can say.

then try inorganic chemistry just to see what keeps the minerals out of your kidney stones, like solubility of mineral salts - what no mineral salts on your crystal, that's a good thing eh?, Mercurio, wherefore art thou, Mercurio?


crystals don't change your blotters, they just add sparkle to your daily life and a smooth coolth to the touch, both of which stand on their own as valuable experiences to some degree.




I totally agree.  But remember how strong the mind is, if one believes that the psychedelics are infused with sublte sacred energy, then maybe there trip will be better and deeper or whatever.  It's all psychosomatic, that influences psychedelics and mental processes hugely!  No joke, when I was younger like 5 years ago I thought I found san pedro growing near my house wildly.  I harvested a foot, and processed it like one would with san pedro to make tar.  I ate the tar and thought I was mildly tripping when walking around my neighborhood on a low dose all day.  Turns out the cactus wasn't even san pedro or active at all!  The mind is crazy strong when it comes to altering reality.

Is reality actually altered?  In the perciever it is, and that's all that counts.  Of course the matter isn't changed, but if one perceives it differently and experiences thusly is it any different from it actually changing (even though it doesn't).  So go ahead and infuse things with subtle energy, see how it makes you feel. We all live in our own heads in our own version of reality anyway.

Although I do believe truly that matter can be influenced by energy as in spiritual energy.  But like, you're probably not a spiritually attained monk that has spend decades trying to infuse matter with spiritual energy to practice ya know?



The mind is a very powerful thing. Have you ever dosed acid and then literally like the second after you swallow it you swear you start "feeling it?" Walls start breathing slightly and shadows get darker. It's all fucking psychological. Of course the acid takes longer than just one second to kick in but a lot of people experience this phenomenon where you take acid and you swear you are feeling it as soon as you swallow it.


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    #27119927 - 01/01/21 08:47 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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    #27119943 - 01/01/21 08:56 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Yeah that site seemed like a total scam for gullible people. OP didn't say what he did with their products, how exactly they helped HIM bless the food or the drugs.

One doesn't need to pay money for external products to bless something.

"Simply put, our Quantum Energy Apps are energetically encoded digital pictures that transform your electronic devices into quantum resonance tools that support you for greater health and well-being and peak performance."
This is just laughable :rofl2:

Anyone who believes this shit needs to take a long think about if they are being scammed...


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    #27119972 - 01/01/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

the thing that they are selling - the pictures - can be freely downloaded from google for instance.

Looking at sacred geometry, mandalas and so on can feel good for the spirit. No need to pay money for this


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    #27120072 - 01/01/21 10:19 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

As someone who works doing science journalism, the mere fact that webpages like that exist makes me wanna vomit.
Quantum physics is not some "magical vibration realm where your positive vibes control the frequency or vibrations of particles." It is quite literally the diametrical opposite. The harsh truth that there is a base level of uncertainty that we will never be able to crack and that all our predictions for small phenomena are, at best, based on probabilty distributions.
It doesn't mean it's useless, because engineering with quantum physics is about specifically finding a use case for systems with exploitable quantum interactions (e.g., tunnel diodes, LEDs).

But it has ABOSLUTELY FREAKING NOTHING to do with putting a picture on your phone and feeling a coffee buzz. That is horseshit, sorry. I've almost lost a friend to anemia because she refused to see a doctor and instead kept insisting on random crystal detox bullcrap.

Wishful thinking makes coping with unexpected difficulties in life way worse than it should be, and I recommend everyone to steer clear from that behavior.


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    #27120381 - 01/01/21 01:00 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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the thing that they are selling - the pictures - can be freely downloaded from google for instance.

Looking at sacred geometry, mandalas and so on can feel good for the spirit. No need to pay money for this




I wholeheartedly agree. Raw aesthetic beauty itself, such as when watching a rendering of a fractal or handling a crystal, is already good enough to put your mind in a better state. This can, in turn, reduce stress and actually have noticeable and positive health effects.

But I can't suggest anyone believe the cookie-cutter explanations like "oh it's cause this stone has this property and this other stone brings wealth and good mood." The world is, fortunately, much more complex than that. Don't settle for an easy placebo-inducing explanation. Embrace the complexity of the world and accept there are thing we don't understand and things that can make us feel bad that won't simply go away with some new-age magik.


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Re: Blessing your psychedelics with subtle energy [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27120407 - 01/01/21 01:19 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Use a worry stone made of something like quartz. It will be cool to look at and play with to make rainbows and to look through to see the trip look more trippy

It also can make you more at ease. :smile:

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    #27120417 - 01/01/21 01:22 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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.... Have you ever dosed acid and then literally like the second after you swallow it you swear you start "feeling it?" Walls start breathing slightly and shadows get darker. It's all fucking psychological. Of course the acid takes longer than just one second to kick in but a lot of people experience this phenomenon where you take acid and you swear you are feeling it as soon as you swallow it.




I totally hear what you're getting at and I know this doesn't relate directly to what you're trying to convey or the topic of the thread, but I just had to say lol.....

With a dose around 150mcg and upwards I absolutely feel the "first alert" and first signs of lifting up from baseline-sobriety within 30 to 90 seconds after the dose is sitting underneath my tongue (the first alert for me is a distinct shift in my cognition/headspace and the way my thoughts "feel" & flow). I do feel LSD almost immediately after dosing (I never actually swallow the dose since I take LSD sublingually, it absorbs into the blood stream pretty rapidly that way).

I'm in no way experiencing any visuals at that point of feeling the "first alert" or even "tripping" yet (around 30 to 40 minutes after dosing is usually when I start to "trip" & experience visuals), but I will almost always feel the first alert and start coming up in 1-minute or less after the dose is under my tongue.





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I and no one else in this thread is calling bull shit on things relating to "subtle energy" in general.....

...But I am certainly, absolutely, calling bullshit on the website that is selling digital pictures for $27 that they claim can do things like prevent allergies or give one a coffee buzz or instil the properties of various medicinal plants.

With that said...I am also extremely skeptical and have my doubts about Dr. Emoto's work as well.





I'm happy you made this distinction clear, because in the smoke fight above, it was hard to see who the hell was saying what.

It's good to have healthy skepticism of these ideas, it will help weed out the fluff, and that's where the real "magick" is, if it ever existed in the first place.

A safe, happy, healthy New Year's to you (and all in this thread) :cheers:!





:werd:

That's the thing...I'm open to and believe certain aspects of "meta-physics" are "real" (something I've opened up to more over the past 8 years or so).

....but there's so much fluff out there that I feel is totally bogus.

I'm very skeptical, but also open-minded (to an extent lol).

Have a good one dude!





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One doesn't need to pay money for external products to bless something.







For real though!

Anything in regards to blessings, healings, prayers, etc etc...One should never have to pay $ for such things at all. If there is a fee/charge for such a thing then it is almost certainly a scam.








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....the mere fact that webpages like that exist makes me wanna vomit.







Same here.

It gave me such a disgusted feeling.







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    #27120465 - 01/01/21 01:56 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

The answer is sort of in taking a physics course. You'll learn that there is a lot we/you don't understand yet, but you'll also learn that it is very foolish to assume things work a certain way without scientific evidence. There's a reason we don't teach engineers and physicists about 'charging crystals for healing' and whatnot. It's because it's like ghosts or demons or whatever- there is no evidence over thousands of years. I always end up discovering this no matter what new age rabbit hole I investigate. Change comes from within, and if something is confusing/distracting enough you can fool yourself.


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    #27121080 - 01/01/21 08:18 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Looking at different colors affects mood, emotion, and energy levels. I have a remote controlled color changing light bulb in my room. Having it on blue before going to bed makes me relaxed and tired.


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    #27121952 - 01/02/21 12:15 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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Looking at different colors affects mood, emotion, and energy levels. I have a remote controlled color changing light bulb in my room. Having it on blue before going to bed makes me relaxed and tired.



I think you should shift to yellow or orange light to go to sleep. blue to wake up. like your iPhone or your microsoft computer which can switch to night mode.


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    #27122258 - 01/02/21 03:05 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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Looking at different colors affects mood, emotion, and energy levels. I have a remote controlled color changing light bulb in my room. Having it on blue before going to bed makes me relaxed and tired.



I think you should shift to yellow or orange light to go to sleep. blue to wake up. like your iPhone or your microsoft computer which can switch to night mode.



Blue COLOR is different from the blue light coming from a cell phone or computer monitor.


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    #27122286 - 01/02/21 03:20 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

tru dat. I just thought about that yesterday. Computer colors are made by RGB pixels. So yellow actually isn't the yellow spectrum only but blue and green together.
Does it make a difference though I wonder?


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    #27122300 - 01/02/21 03:29 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

who the fuck would ever believe any of this bullshit? some people are so desperate to believe in all this pseudo mystical white boy shaman nonsense no matter how little sense it makes.


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Looking at different colors affects mood, emotion, and energy levels. I have a remote controlled color changing light bulb in my room. Having it on blue before going to bed makes me relaxed and tired.



I think you should shift to yellow or orange light to go to sleep. blue to wake up. like your iPhone or your microsoft computer which can switch to night mode.



Blue COLOR is different from the blue light coming from a cell phone or computer monitor.




Blue comes from the wave length of the radiation in the visible spectrum, regardless of weather it come from a screen or a light bulb. The color BLUE is reflection of that radiation off of a surface.  :strokebeard:


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    #27122599 - 01/02/21 06:22 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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the thing that they are selling - the pictures - can be freely downloaded from google for instance.

Looking at sacred geometry, mandalas and so on can feel good for the spirit. No need to pay money for this




Maybe like... 8 years ago I had a bit of a freak out on LSD at a music festival.  I became very, very concerned that people would start to capitlize on the psychedelic experience however they could.  Overpriced crap with sacred geometry on it made in China in sweatshops, clothes the same way.  Preying on people who just were shown something else so they can make a buck.  Quite literally pimping out the psychedelic experience and spirituality that comes with it to make money.

And as that all becomes a commodity, gets packaged up, made for pennies on the dollar and sold for exorbitant prices and selling false promises... that the true meaning of sacred geometry, mandalas, the realms of the mind would lose the true nature they have.  And now 8 years later, I see that I was quite right.


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    #27122764 - 01/02/21 07:49 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

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who the fuck would ever believe any of this bullshit? some people are so desperate to believe in all this pseudo mystical white boy shaman nonsense no matter how little sense it makes.




I know, right? It's sad that they are not only disrespecting the psychedelic experience by association with this bullcrap, but also taking a piss at everyone who ACTUALLY STUDIES quantum physics. That stuff is not easy at all, and to have some morons associate it with "magical picture quantum energy" is a fucking disgrace to everyone actually trying to solve the puzzle.


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    #27123281 - 01/03/21 06:46 AM (3 years, 25 days ago)

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tru dat. I just thought about that yesterday. Computer colors are made by RGB pixels. So yellow actually isn't the yellow spectrum only but blue and green together.
Does it make a difference though I wonder?



red and green together generate the yellow in lcd's and tv's.
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who the fuck would ever believe any of this bullshit? some people are so desperate to believe in all this pseudo mystical white boy shaman nonsense no matter how little sense it makes.




I know, right? It's sad that they are not only disrespecting the psychedelic experience by association with this bullcrap, but also taking a piss at everyone who ACTUALLY STUDIES quantum physics. That stuff is not easy at all, and to have some morons associate it with "magical picture quantum energy" is a fucking disgrace to everyone actually trying to solve the puzzle.



indeed

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    #27123337 - 01/03/21 07:35 AM (3 years, 25 days ago)

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tru dat. I just thought about that yesterday. Computer colors are made by RGB pixels. So yellow actually isn't the yellow spectrum only but blue and green together.
Does it make a difference though I wonder?



red and green together generate the yellow in lcd's and tv's.
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Looking at different colors affects mood, emotion, and energy levels. I have a remote controlled color changing light bulb in my room. Having it on blue before going to bed makes me relaxed and tired.



I think you should shift to yellow or orange light to go to sleep. blue to wake up. like your iPhone or your microsoft computer which can switch to night mode.




Agreed. I use a diffuser with lavendar oil on red light. I have tried all the light colors and red is the easiest on my eyes


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Red light therapy is used to calm acne, heal wounds and reduce arthritis. Now, new findings suggest red light may also protect our eyes as we age. But eye experts warn that the practice has not been well studied in humans — so don’t try this at home."
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    #27123942 - 01/03/21 01:20 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

It's one thing to 'appreciate' the mushrooms or whatever substance you are taking in order to enhance your experience. I'm down with that. It's part of the journey.
But fuck, downloading a smartphone app to do that? Christ. You think Apple/Android designed their phones to aid the giving off of invisible rays of bullshit into your food and drugs?
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    #27124399 - 01/03/21 05:35 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

Looking at the COLOR BLUE is completely different than looking at BLUE LIGHT from a screen. Staring at a blue wall is not going to fuck up your circadian rhythm like what staring at a phone screen will do. Blue light from phones and computers has nothing to do with the actual COLOR blue.


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Looking at the COLOR BLUE is completely different than looking at BLUE LIGHT from a screen. Staring at a blue wall is not going to fuck up your circadian rhythm like what staring at a phone screen will do. Blue light from phones and computers has nothing to do with the actual COLOR blue.




Do you have any references for what you're claiming? The "blue" in the blue wall is the same "blue" as in a blue LED. It's an electromagnetic wave with a specific frequency that we perceive as "blue"; that's literally how colors work. The main difference would be intensity (most likely less photons reflected off the blue wall than those emitted by the blue LED pixels in your phone)


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    #27124503 - 01/03/21 06:37 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

Why don't you fucking look it up on Google yourself. I've known about this for fucking years. there's a difference between staring at a fucking blue wall or a fucking blue crayon and staring at your fucking white screen which emits blue light on your fucking phone. This is the end I'm not fucking talking to you about this anymore.


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    #27124519 - 01/03/21 06:46 PM (3 years, 25 days ago)

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Why don't you fucking look it up on Google yourself. I've known about this for fucking years. there's a difference between staring at a fucking blue wall or a fucking blue crayon and staring at your fucking white screen which emits blue light on your fucking phone. This is the end I'm not fucking talking to you about this anymore.




I'm sorry you had a bad day brother. I was not meaning to piss you off at all.
The differences in the blue light sources you mention is in intensity (thorugh different photon densities). The qualia we call color works exactly the same way from both sources; cells in your eyes that are sensitive to blue frequency. The circadian rythm is indeed affected more by blue light with higher intensity.


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    #27125484 - 01/04/21 07:40 AM (3 years, 24 days ago)

look, even a beautiful loving and artistic person can have a wrong idea.

sleep it off, try a blue light if it helps, facts could be extraneous, it's be a bad 4 years.


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