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Mescaline and tramadol?
    #27110562 - 12/27/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hello everyone,

Today is distinctive for me. Because I got my first 1 and 7 years old two beautiful peyotes.
I have no psychedelic experiences so far, I think this will be the first time and I don't believe this yet.

It was so silly for me when someone says they will find you, but these are really found me, a whole farm found me!! Based on a single word and were like a puzzle no one can slove it except me.

My problem now I took 50 mg of tramadol 3 days ago and I wonder if this may kill or affect the trip? I don't take it usually, I didn't took it before this day for like a year.

Last question please, What is the best way to consume the peyotes?

Thanks a lot!


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy] * 1
    #27110604 - 12/27/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The tramadol will be no problem, it's out of your system allready.

Just cut them off and eat them as they are. They have no spines nor hard skin.

I'm a bit concerned about the dose..
The one-year-ols button won't do anything, let it grow. But one mature button (7 years old) is a very small dose..
Usually, you eat a handfull to a dozen of them to trip. :shrug:

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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy] * 1
    #27110614 - 12/27/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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pointy said:
Today is distinctive for me. Because I got my first 1 and 7 years old two beautiful peyotes.

My problem now I took 50 mg of tramadol 3 days ago and I wonder if this may kill or affect the trip?

What is the best way to consume the peyotes?






You should be totally fine. I don't see a small dose of tramadol or its metabolites having much of any impact or influence or any interaction with mescaline several days later.

I've never consumed peyote so I can't really say the best way...But I would think just slicing them up into bite sized pieces and chewing them up well and washing it down with water or juice would be a typical way to do so.



It sounds like you only have two peyote buttons though? And one of them is only 1 year old?...I'm not all that knowledgeable about peyote specifically but I think one usually needs a lot more than just two relatively young peyote to have an actual trip.

I don't think eating those two that you have will be enough to have a "trip"/experience. But maybe someone else that knows more about peyote can comment on that.





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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy]
    #27110653 - 12/27/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I concur with Pandamoon and openmind. You are not likely to get much from the peyote. 15 ten-year-old buttons would give you a decent trip. Peyote enthusiasts often eat upward of >30 buttons for a spiritual journey.


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 1
    #27110731 - 12/27/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you guys for the help, I really appreciate this.

I guess I could be wrong with the one I described as seven years old, this is a picture of both of them, please let me know what you think.





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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #27110745 - 12/27/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I concur with Pandamoon and openmind. You are not likely to get much from the peyote. 15 ten-year-old buttons would give you a decent trip. Peyote enthusiasts often eat upward of >30 buttons for a spiritual journey.




What does the button mean? How is the size of the button? Are they the kids or the whole plant?
On the big plant I have a lot of kids 25+ (by the way is the kids a right name?) most of them are too small like the tip of a finger.

I also have Syrian rue and I think it can double the experience, right? I can buy more although, but the price is a little expensive

I think the farmer knows the importance of this species. he explained to me that the price is high due to the slow growth and the scarcity of the specie, but I doubt this! Because it was the most expensive in relation to the other species


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy]
    #27111468 - 12/27/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Beautiful! Post this over here!


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    #27112131 - 12/28/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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pointy said:

What does the button mean? How is the size of the button? Are they the kids or the whole plant?
On the big plant I have a lot of kids 25+ (by the way is the kids a right name?) most of them are too small like the tip of a finger.





"Button" is a peyote. Individual peyote are often referred to as "buttons".

What you are calling "kids", I'm assuming are the small new growths growing around the main one, are often referred to as "pups" . At least in regards to other cactus & succulents I hear them called "pups" so I'm assuming the same term is used for peyote.




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I also have Syrian rue and I think it can double the experience, right?





Syrian Rue makes some psychedelics "more potent & longer lasting" by inhibiting the enzyme that our bodies use to break down various compounds/drugs/etc (this enzyme is known as "Monoamine Oxidase")....When this enzyme is inhibited by something like syrian rue, certain "drugs" can build up to higher levels and/or remain active in the body for a longer period of time.

But as far as I know, the primary active component in peyote/cactus mescaline is not metabolized/broken down by the enzyme monoamine oxidase. So I don't think syrian rue will have much to offer in regards to making the dose/experience more potent/stronger. Syrian rue is paired with tryptamines mostly things like mushrooms & dmt, and not so much phenethylamines like mescaline.

Also...some cactus can contain large amounts of tyramine which one does not want in their system while monoamine oxidase is inhibited, large amounts of tyramine in the body while monoamine oxidase is inhibited is a dangerous combination.





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I think the farmer knows the importance of this species. he explained to me that the price is high due to the slow growth and the scarcity of the specie, but I doubt this!





Why do you doubt it? That farmer is speaking the truth!

Peyote does in fact grow very very slowly. And Peyote is in fact quite rare in the wild and as a species it is vulnerable & on the verge of being endangered in the wild. There is a reason peyote is expensive.

It grows so slowly and it is such a rare and vulnerable species (in the wild) very few people even consume peyote. Most people that own some peyote and grow it never eat it, peyote is more of a collectors item these days.


I personally would have a difficult time consuming that beautiful peyote that you have because of how relatively rare they are and how slow they grow. There's a handful of farmers around the world that grow peyote, but still.

If you are interested in experiencing mescaline there are other species of cactus that produce it. And those species grow quite rapidly compared to peyote, they are not vulnerable or endangered, and they are way cheaper. (Trichocereus pachanoi aka "San Pedro", and Trichocereus bridgesii)





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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #27112779 - 12/28/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Beautiful! Post this over here!




Done :thumbup:


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27112787 - 12/28/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Really useful informations. THANK YOU!!


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy]
    #27116383 - 12/30/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That is nice peyote! Mine are small compared, they take ages to grow. But worth it!


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #27118235 - 12/31/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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That is nice peyote! Mine are small compared, they take ages to grow. But worth it!





How old is your Peyote?


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: pointy] * 1
    #27118327 - 12/31/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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PsychoReactive said:
That is nice peyote! Mine are small compared, they take ages to grow. But worth it!





How old is your Peyote?




I got mine in 2012 and it was about 5-7 cm in diameter.
Now its probably 14 cms. So growing nicely.


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Re: Mescaline and tramadol? [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #27118406 - 12/31/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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PsychoReactive said:
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pointy said:
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PsychoReactive said:
That is nice peyote! Mine are small compared, they take ages to grow. But worth it!





How old is your Peyote?




I got mine in 2012 and it was about 5-7 cm in diameter.
Now its probably 14 cms. So growing nicely.





Mine is 12cm in diameter, yours is older I guess, may 12-14 years old. so I think mine is 10 years old minimum!


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