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szubsa
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Pachanoi Trip Report 2
#27109978 - 12/27/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had this cactus that grew for 3 years on my windowsill and with a weight of 680g fresh. It's a typical short spined Pachanoi. After harvest I let it rest in not complete darkness but much darker than on the windowsill for 16 weeks. I peeled the skin off, cut the flesh into thin stripes and cooked them for 8 hours. After cooking I boiled the liquid down the about 200ml at the most and drank it all in 1 gulp. I didn't taste as bad as I remembered from previous times and I didn't got any nausea at all.
The trip was the strongest I ever had from this cactus. I couldn't have handled more or I probably would have lost it. I hadn't used cacti for quite some time and nearly forgot how they work. The last month I read a lot of forum posts where people say Pachanoi is unpredictable and it's better to get a Bridgesii. Also a lot about clones with names where people pay up to $300 for. All this stuff suddenly appeared like total crap to me. I guess if someone sells you Pachanoi seeds or clones that are weak you have been ripped off.
I raised this cactus from seeds many years ago and I think it finally reached it's maximal potency. I you raise cacti from seeds, let them grow for a few years and then take a top cuting you can see that the layer of green tissue is much thicker than below from the growth of the first years. The skin is also thicker. When planting this cutting you get a cactus with a thicker layer of green tissue from the start. Letting them grow for a couple of years more and taking a new top cutting from increase this effect. Eventually it will not get any better because the cactus doesn't produce more green tissue than needed. However If I would live in a warmer country where I could grow them outdoors all year round I probabably could get larger and thicker cacti that would need more green to support the thicker growth. Meaning this cactus could become even stronger.
As I said the trip was nearly more than I could handle. It's difficult to explain its content because it was related to my shroom trips and also quite personal. But in general I was heavily and intensely drugged for more tha 12 hours and had a feeling as I had reached the bottom of my soul. I'm sure I don't need to switch to Bridgesii and also don't need any high priced cuttings with names.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: szubsa]
#27109990 - 12/27/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice, glad you had a good experience
I have had good luck with san pedro potency as well.
I actually bought three of them in a pot in the garden section at home depot many years ago. I have replanted them into a larger pot, and I cut off enough for 5-6 trips and they continue to grow, but I haven't had the desire to consume it more recently. The cactus is definitely not a dud, I want to keep it going.
I also stumbled onto a gold mine of san pedro growing in a weird area behind somebody's house (outside of their fence line). I cut about 6 feet worth of cuttings and planted those too. This was a huge old patch of san pedro, some 10 feet tall. I haven't gone back to look recently, I hope they're still there. I have not tested them, not sure how they will compare to my home depot cacti.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: drr]
#27110471 - 12/27/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting. I have about 50 san pedro and bolivian torches growing. They are still very young but I am excited to try mescaline for the first time some day in the future.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: szubsa]
#27110635 - 12/27/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This was more about how you’ve grown, harvested and prepared for you trip and not really a trip report. Click bait hahaha! Might wanna switch up the title
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: Tankie_J] 1
#27110717 - 12/27/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perhaps you are right. As I said, it's difficult to explain, but I will try anyway.
It's about God and Devil. First it started with some charakters from Western movies. Movies where men are men and women are women. Then there were some characters from old english movies and than some kind of hippies and at last the people of today. During this timeline men became more female and women more male. Since we are some kind of apes and apes are guided by males I thought there's something wrong with this.
A voice laughted at me and said:" Do you really think you can change all this and bring the times of the Western movies back?" I didn't knew how to do this but nnevertheless refused to give in.
Then it said:" What the fuck are you talking anyway? Why don't you just forget all this and make your own life as comfortable as possible. You have your place somewhere in the chain of commands and should try to make the best out of it. Again I didn't know what to reply but refused to give in.
I felt trapped in this system. Doing what's best for my career, while denying what I really believe in and thereby being someone who's for sale didn't feel right. I felt an ever increasing pressure from all the things I would have to do, how to behave and what I'm not allowed to say. Where did this pressure come from and who's behind it? There's no single person that says he is. Everyone points to someone else, to society, modern times or whatever.
Then I saw something that possibly was the Devil that told me he was behind it and that he had enslaved all of humanity. The only way to escape was if I had something in me that I would never give up and was, if necessary, willing to die for. Like a noble man with a weapon shield who's not for sale but defends his beliefs.
He, the Devil, had taken away all our beliefs. There's no truth anymore. Everything is just an opinion. Life has no real meaning, no goal and doesn't include any ingrained laws we have to follow. We are just products of random mutations and evolution with no long term goal we are evolving towards, that we one day will reach and then be perfect or whatever.
So what could I possibly be willing to die for? I'm still haven't found a clear answer to this question. It showed me the United States that say they are for freedom and tries to liberate all suppressed people and that this was all a crap. Why, in a war, people are for their own soldiers? Not because the are left or right, want to save baby seals from trappers or whatever. They are for them because they fight for them and nothing else. Because they fight for their own heart. For love for their own people they love and that's where the secret lies in.
There's where this trip, his spiritual message ended and I'm still thinking what exactly my own heart is where I should be willing to die for. Perhaps the answer will come in future trips.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: szubsa]
#27110742 - 12/27/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice report. Thanks.
Most people's sense of self worth...what they believe to be the very essence of them, is borne of the contrived systems you were shown.
More often this false part of them needs to "die" so they can move on to a truer version.
Are you willing to allow that the part of yourself to "die"?
Just my take.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: pineninja]
#27111746 - 12/28/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think a lot of what I once was already died in me. My experience with cacti is quite limited but I have taken mushrooms a few hundred times. And, as I said, this trip was related to my shroom trips.
An example about what shrooms told me about the corona virus: The virus comes from God. Not from Bill Gates, not from child eating pedophiles that want to inject us with microchips, not from a Chinese lab nor is it a natural coincidence without any further meaning. It's from God.
You probably know the story of Adam and Eve. The snake seduced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit and Eve than seduced Adam to do the same. Adam ate the fruit but changed his mind at the last minute and didn't swallow it. That's why men have an Adam's apple and that's why humanity should be ruled by men. Traditionally all human civilizations are ruled by men and other religions may have other stories why that's the way it should be.
Humanity must be ruled by men and all men should erase all female traits out of their minds. This makes them hard and protects them from diseases. God made the best men to kings that ruled over the weaker ones. The best men are those with a very strong believe and who can say "No" to the rest and do not make any compromises, even if many thousands of them do not agree. These are special men and only few of them exist. Even though there can also be bad people among them.
The majority of people are not fit to rule. That's why we have the Opium Act for instance. To protect people from themselves. And there are many other examples why people have to be protected from themselves.
This went on for thousands of years until the start of industrialization and the end of World War 2. After the war people came to the conclusion that all Wars must stop and that men fighting for God, honor and so on, as well as the spirits they served, must go. Religion and male dominance only leads to wars. Men like Adam became synonymous with Nazis, even though they weren't National Socialists, and had to become men like Eve that swallowed the apple by making compromises with those believing in something else than they do. We still can go to church as long as we don't call those with other beliefs bad people or accusing some people to be Devil worshippers. The Catholic church for instance abolished the Devil and denies he even exists.
This went on and evolved and by now we are in fact serving a female God. All we believe that's good is in fact witchcraft and we live in some kind of Sodom and Gomorrah. Crime, diseases, sexual perversions prevail and we are even destroying and polluting the whole planet.
The spirit (God)that men like Adam (so called Nazis or fascists) served was locked up in a cage by all political leaders accusing their opponents of being Nazis or fascists. But this spirit somehow managed to escape, is out for revenge and wants to destroy everything the worshippers of the witch build up.
We have super powers with enough nuclear weapons that could destroy the earth as a planet so war between God favoring nations and the others isn't an option. That's why God created the virus and infected the whole world. The virus can't be fought with nuclear or conventional weapons and is slowly destroying all economies, thereby stripping the political leaders of the witch of their powers.
Is this all true or just some drug induced hallucination? Well time will tell and will reveal if mushrooms are truly the Flesh of the Gods.
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Re: Pachanoi Trip Report [Re: szubsa]
#27120786 - 01/01/21 05:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
szubsa said: I was heavily and intensely drugged for more tha 12 hours
Only 12 hours? 
-------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
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