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My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable
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Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
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That's so weird. I've met a lot of people who are exactly like that and worse, except they hate white people. I was under the impression the other sort had disappeared 60 years ago and only still existed in political propaganda and American sitcoms. I can't even imagine how he ended up thinking that was OK, unless there's some anti-black version of The Guardian or The Independent that he is immersing himself in.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27109373 - 12/26/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The UPS guy who comes to deliver at my job everyday (I'm the one who signs him in and accepts the deliveries) is blatantly racist like this. Homophobe also. He's a hispanic guy. In his 50's. He trashes his own race quite frequently so I guess he feels like as long as he does that he can say whatever he wants lol idk.
I've heard him casually drop just about every racist term in the book. Also has openly voiced his disdain for gay folks. Saying faggot under his breath, dropping n-bombs just ever so casually like it's not a big deal...mocking an Asian lady's accent at the building. The guy is honestly one of the more blatantly racist dudes I've probably ever met. At least in recent memory anyway.
I only see him for literally like 3 minutes a day and somehow within that tiny time window he is always able to fit in at least one racist term or stereotype. So I just imagine him being like that from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep. For his entire life.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
Fire him.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Patlal]
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
Fire him.
I wish I could fire my boss but unfortunately I don't think it works that way
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Niffla]
#27109417 - 12/26/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Niffla]
#27109435 - 12/26/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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At this point I could have him fired. The thing about it is he's been finding minuscule mistakes I've been making to try and get me fired. I got promoted here because my skills far outweigh my slight absent mindedness, but then management shifted as I got promoted. This new dude has said and did so many things that make me uncomfortable.
I mentioned to him like an idiot that I date a lot of people of color, and he was making me uncomfortable. His response? He immediately laughs and tells one of the housekeepers "hey listen to this, Matt actually likes black girls"
Does this dude not understand that a thick booty and grape drink are vital to a man's soul? No this dude tells me to leave grape drinks off our orders because our demographic is mostly white.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
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perhaps you could try and help him? I know a lifetime of bad experiences probably made him that way but maybe you could get through to him. Do you work in Baltimore or something?
*edit just read previous post* you should really fuck with his head and tell him you like black guys.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Kyngwhatt]
#27109514 - 12/26/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I too dealt with racism at my old job, full spectrum bigotry. I wasnt out at work or anything and it 70% of the time my main coworker was bitching about people of color or transgender people, along with 2 of the delivery drivers. Plus the boss/owner and his dad were severly homophobic and racist and I eventually couldnt take it anymore and left.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Kyngwhatt]
#27109537 - 12/26/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kyngwhatt said: perhaps you could try and help him? I know a lifetime of bad experiences probably made him that way but maybe you could get through to him. Do you work in Baltimore or something?
*edit just read previous post* you should really fuck with his head and tell him you like black guys.
It's at the fuck with him point. Everyone here knows I have autism. He several times has actually laughed at me when I told him and says that typical "Well I can't tell" shit that pisses me off so bad. Like autism is a color. I had to actually bring in paperwork for my doctor and he's acting like I'm scamming him because he has to accept my medical issues.
I was out for work for 2 weeks and he turned it into a big joke and I came back to a bunch of mono jokes. This dude is the only one I have problems with. I've never worked with such a good group that sees my worth. This dude plain out doesn't like me because I am attracted to people of color.and live in the ghetto.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 2
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Start gathering evidence man. Whenever he says or does something that is inappropriate write down the time and date, who was there and exactly what he said or did. When there's a shitload of it you take it to HR and either see him disappear or change his attitude dramatically overnight.
That's the only way to oust a manager above you. If he makes a strike against you and you don't have something like this in hand you are fucked also. Best to prepare for war rather than just being shot down, especially if you like the job.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Northerner]
#27109586 - 12/26/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's the advice I needed. This dude is attacking me where he knows it'll hurt the most because he got hired from outside, where as I was promoted beneath him the following week. He sees my presence as a threat to his employment. I'd much rather work along side people than above them.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Niffla]
#27109607 - 12/26/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niffla said:
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Patlal said:
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
Fire him.
I wish I could fire my boss but unfortunately I don't think it works that way
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Patlal]
#27109696 - 12/26/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This hotel could go from upscale to nitrous tanks over night. I don't live like that anymore. I gave up on that kind of mentality even though it works.
For once I'm trying to live accordingly and not piss anyone off, and there's always gotta be a reason for me to piss someone off.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
#27109756 - 12/26/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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vandago said: That's the advice I needed. This dude is attacking me where he knows it'll hurt the most because he got hired from outside, where as I was promoted beneath him the following week. He sees my presence as a threat to his employment. I'd much rather work along side people than above them.
HR departments love assassinating racist bullying pieces of shit, they live for that stuff. It's good for you in so many ways not to take his shit and use the systems set up to protect yourself.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Northerner]
#27109793 - 12/26/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Record what the boss says and keep it as Ace in your deck when he tries to screw you over.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Mandarinfish] 1
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Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them
this sounds like some throw away line from the chappelle's show
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
#27109970 - 12/27/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Paw Paw said: I am racist against most whiteys that try to play basketball 
I quoted this so I could use this gif in future
Also get a pocket tape recorder; you'll have him under your thumb after one day. Better off to just contact HR at corporate though and give them the tape and be ready to go on record to get him fired. Do him before he does you
Exactly like mandarin fish but don't wait. Don't tell him you have it. Gather the worst possible things he says on tape and also keep a log like some earlier poster of witnesses that were around. Audio tape + your testimony + getting lots of witnesses written down; HES bound to get screwed by someone else's testimony too
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: theRealrollforever]
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It's either go over his head or bend to his will and pretend his hateful rhetoric is "funny" even though you probably would rather kill the dude. If you keep opposing him without trying to really get him he is gonna get you fired. He probably would have already if you didn't have medical documentation of your condition
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: theRealrollforever]
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Sounds like a week worth of audio and a log of said audio with witnesses context etc. would def get him gone :siren: It's 2020 bro that's the sound of the PC police kicking his ass to the curb.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: theRealrollforever] 1
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As much as that guy sounds like a huge shitbag, it also sounds like you are letting him take away too much of your focus. Be careful with that. You can let it ruin a perfectly good job.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: tomnl]
#27110285 - 12/27/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everything hes ever said is audio recorded on the cameras, and I'm the only one in the company who knows how to use them.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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If the hotel is part of a franchise or something like that, then you could send a respectful note to the bosses above your boss saying his behavior has been making you and the people you manage uncomfortable to the extent that it's interfering with your work, and that your efforts to address it personally with him have been laughed at. CC HR in that note, and have some of your underlings send their own complaints to HR too if they feel comfortable filing complaints. That should cause him enough serious trouble to get him off your ass. It sounds like that guy has no place being a manager.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#27110736 - 12/27/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dudes got an Ivy degree so he got ahead of me immediately. A few employees have already complained. If the other 2 and myself complained he'd be gone. Dude has his good points but that kind of management won't last.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27110757 - 12/27/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Invite him to a "Cross burning" ceremony. Turn it into an intervention. Put it on cable.

The higher you get the more blatant it can become it seems. Protected circles of school and social clubs can be hotbeds of counter normal behaviors.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
#27110847 - 12/27/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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Hotels wouldnt exist without the sex trade
He needs to find another job.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
Snitches get stitches
Are you familiar with the term "dry snitching "? Him casually being racist in front of staff that I'm in charge of is pretty much him telling on me for not doing my job. If she goes to the GM and says his racism is making her uncomfortable and then tells him her boss ( me ) was standing right there and did nothing o make sure it was dealt with, I'd lose my job. Also, I'm not a racist by association. I'm not jeopardizing my career for some baby booming bigot.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Yokal]
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Yokal said: Hotels wouldnt exist without the sex trade
He needs to find another job.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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You sayin he dry snitchin so now you straight snitchin?
Justifyin an shit
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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Fuck racists. And fuck snitching. next time he is racist in front of you call him out on that shit to his face
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27110956 - 12/27/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This isn't prison or illegal activities. Allowing someone to be a racist pos in the workplace on a consistent basis isn't acceptable.
You protect pedophiles and rapist too?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
#27110959 - 12/27/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Fuck racists. And fuck snitching. next time he is racist in front of you call him out on that shit to his face 
If you read, I already called him out, and even explained why hes being over the top racist, and actually offending me. Hes running his side of things based on skin color.
For the record I haven't said anything to the gm or corporate. However, if another employee pipes up and I'm found to have known, I'll be on my ass
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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Yeah that sucks man.....have you tried punching him in the face after work?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
#27110962 - 12/27/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That may be the only option.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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If someone was treating me like shit, and in the current state of mind I have been in this year, I would 100% punch someone in the face....but I'm not ok and probably a bad influence so dont listen to me lol
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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Racism isnt illegal
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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You protect weed smokers an junkys too?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27110998 - 12/27/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is a form of discrimination which is in fact illegal
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
#27111005 - 12/27/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd argue discrimination laws displace qualified workers from the work place
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27111010 - 12/27/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So my solution was to just order the fuckin funyons and forget about it.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27111018 - 12/27/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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stzacrack said: You protect weed smokers an junkys too?
Yes.
I worded my previous statement poorly. I meant to word it as the rule you speak of in regards to snitching is failed. Snitching is a form of throwing someone under the bus to get out of something you did stupid. If I were to allow one of my employees to be uncomfortable at work walking on eggshells, which negative situation is worse. Allowing a bigot to be a raging idiot constantly while people are being discriminated against who work hard. Or do what I'm supposed to do as their boss and give them a safe work place?
I didn't do anything wrong, and I have nothing to gain. Your perspective of snitching is dumb.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27111205 - 12/27/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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#27111222 - 12/27/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trolls will be trolls.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27111243 - 12/27/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would read your companies Harassment Policy. You may be required to turn him in. You don't want to be complicit. IDK I didn't read all of the comments above but fuck this guy, his being a prick shouldn't cost you your job.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy] 1
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hhmm Nothing 55 cases of grape pop won’t cure. Fill the shelves and run it on discount.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
#27111411 - 12/27/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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IdiotCircusBoy said: I would read your companies Harassment Policy. You may be required to turn him in. You don't want to be complicit. IDK I didn't read all of the comments above but fuck this guy, his being a prick shouldn't cost you your job.
Just logically I feel like I'd be in trouble for not saying something. Especially because I've addressed him directly about it. Hes going to get us sued and me fired.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112437 - 12/28/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of people have said inappropriate things at work. When confronted most people stop. If they continue and aren't apologetic about it then they need to go. It sounds like this guy is offending people. If confronted someone and they continued the activity I would go to human resources. Going to HR is not without it's dangers. You could be ostracized at work and a shit storm could erupt. Just make sure your nose is clean. F*ck man, I really hate that you have to deal with this shit.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112443 - 12/28/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Record your boss saying racist shit and report his stupid ass and get him fired.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#27112456 - 12/28/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Record your boss saying racist shit and report his stupid ass and get him fired.
I thought about this but it depends on where you live. Some places require 2 party consent for recordings.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
#27112559 - 12/28/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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My state its legal to record someone. However I couldn't fathom doing that to someone as invading someone's privacy is way worse than being a subtle racist, at least in my mind.
I'm just looking for another job. I realized it's an overall mentality if its just an eyeroll and business as usual when its brought up. The last thing I want to do is subject myself to business meetings where I'm cringing at every step. Our first meeting he told me he conducts business based on dempgraph, not because it's right but because it works.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112785 - 12/28/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I couldn't not report someone as horrible and evil as your boss. I couldn't live with myself. I hope you do the right thing and report him.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#27112804 - 12/28/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not as easy as that. Hes already been reported twice and each time the employee goes to the GM it unfolds that the guy already told on them for petty stuff. For some reason my GM takes this dudes word over anyone's, including mine.
We would need multiple recordings sent to hr. The reason I made this post is because our old management team just shifted to a new corporation so I feel the time is now to figure out a plan going forward, its either quit or get him out.
I was out for 2 weeks with mono and only told this dude, and he told the entire building. That in itself is personal and I woupdve punched him if I could get away with it.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112819 - 12/28/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh, yeah dude. Do a fucking 20 minute long montage of the guy being a racist prick. If that doesn't get him fired then just put it up on Youtube and hang up flyers and shit.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27112829 - 12/28/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guy sounds like 50% of american business owners. Some people still listen to the wrong Rush.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: bodhisatta]
#27112835 - 12/28/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well what I noticed was his boss let's this happen, and our lowest paid employee walks around all day bitching up a storm because her grandson is trans. I can't believe a place that revolves around travel and culture could hate the people who supply them with meals.
Prior to this guy it was still off, but just typical. This guy is text book high school bully and I kinda wanna beat his ass.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112852 - 12/28/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If the whole business is shady and racist, I'd just start stealing shit.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112889 - 12/28/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27112892 - 12/28/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Oh, yeah dude. Do a fucking 20 minute long montage of the guy being a racist prick. If that doesn't get him fired then just put it up on Youtube and hang up flyers and shit.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27112897 - 12/28/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude you're going to wear a wire?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27112898 - 12/28/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Oh, yeah dude. Do a fucking 20 minute long montage of the guy being a racist prick. If that doesn't get him fired then just put it up on Youtube and hang up flyers and shit.
Then what dox him and March down the st?

Sure, why not?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27113165 - 12/28/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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vandago said: My state its legal to record someone. However I couldn't fathom doing that to someone as invading someone's privacy is way worse than being a subtle racist, at least in my mind.
I'm just looking for another job. I realized it's an overall mentality if its just an eyeroll and business as usual when its brought up. The last thing I want to do is subject myself to business meetings where I'm cringing at every step. Our first meeting he told me he conducts business based on dempgraph, not because it's right but because it works.
they are already invading other people's right to happiness in the workplace, as well as pretty much the spirit of america - the right to being treated as equals regardless of who you are. moreover, racism is a disease. you are doing this for them, as a wake up call. and privacy invasion? in this day in age, there is no such thing as privacy in the workplace - there are pretty much camera's everywhere anyways, or at least you should expect such whenever you are out in public.
and this does not sound like "subtle racism" in the slightest. there is no such thing as subtle racism anyways. you have a chance here to be a hero and deal with this situation - or you can let it slide and live with it for the rest of your life. i personally couldn't stand letting it slide, myself. just keep recordings of everything, and keep it civil - and if it escalates, somehow, and turns on you... you have the right on your side. if somehow even the company itself turns on you...see if the government gets on your side. if they can't do anything... turn to the press. i can... ehehehe... guarantee you that no company will like that... oh no... they will not like that at all. you might find yourself with some new opportunities then. or you could probably blackmail your old company to a better position to not go to the press with those recordings if they try to get rid of you for doing the right thing. no company wants to be seen as "that racist supporting company" in this day and age, even after Trump.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Psion]
#27113187 - 12/28/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Like I mentioned, hes on a wire. My cameras have audio and none of them know how to use them. If I did report it with dates and times and had the statements from affected employees it could easily be dug up from the backup and played. It would take a collective effort and all of it's a nightmare.
I just touched up my resume and have been putting apps in. I drive pretty far and could he making way more. It's not the end of the world.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27113233 - 12/28/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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i mean, you're a supervisor. sometimes your job has to deal with thorny issues like this - protecting employees under you from serious issues, such as racism in the workplace. if you leave, you run the risk of your replacement ignoring the issue as well, and them being subjected to continued racism, with the new person being in a weaker position to address the issue.
it might not be the end of the world to you, but to those fellow employees? it just might.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Psion] 2
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there is only 1 thing to do.....DSHSB the true shroomery way
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27113303 - 12/29/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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vandago said: My cameras have audio and none of them know how to use them. If I did report it with dates and times and had the statements from affected employees it could easily be dug up from the backup and played.
I'm fully invested in this fuck this guy up. This is not snitching, this is war.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Put ice in his manpussy!
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
#27113481 - 12/29/20 04:41 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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vandago said: Recently got put in charge of a large upscale hotel as the director of Operations Supervisor. Its been actually overall fun, but extremely challenging. My boss is a tried and true racist. Not like "Haha black people"...like "fuckin blacks"... know both are unacceptable, but segregation and hate are dicey mix I can't deal with.
He has me do my orders for our marketplace based ondemographic. Today he told me not to order funyuns because only African americans eat them...he thinks black people steal luggage racks..that if they pay in cash they are crack dealers etc
These beliefs don't offend me. It's the actions he takes. Some of the people under me don't take lightly to the baby boomer mentality that this racist stuff is just ok. If I let it go on it could bite me in the ass. He's said several things to me about people of color that blow my mind he's made it this far...
I've addressed it to him and he still acts based on skin color.
Apart from the obvious aversion vs racism, its bad for the work environment and its bad for business, bcause if there's an incident your restaurant will henceforth be known as the KKK headquarters.
You have to do something about his unprofessionality. it's bad for business.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Asante]
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Someone just said its war against his boss?
I'm glad you guys dont treat drug addicts the same with your judgements
Btw, if you own the company, asante is correct it's bad for business fuck him
If he doesnt own the company my opinion is hear no evil see no evil speak no evil
I get it the dudes probably an insecure pussy, but some other statements in this thread are buggin
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27113763 - 12/29/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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stzacrack said: If he doesnt own the company my opinion is hear no evil see no evil speak no evil
If vandago is in a supervisory roll and does nothing then, I believe, he could be liable. Depends on where he lives because employment law varies by state and country.
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I think this is the smart move. This company sounds like it has a shitty culture. This guy will eventually go down and I'm not sure I'd want to be there for the ensuing shit storm. Be smart, cover your ass. You can always report him after you have a new job which would help to alleviate any ethical dilemma you may be having.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
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So OP, did you record your boss saying racist shit yet?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Patlal]
#27113939 - 12/29/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Bite his ear to show him who is the alpha
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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I just haven't made a decision yet on the best decision. I don't need to "wire up" nor would I. That was, once again, all recorded by he company. The company does not know it was said multiple times, and the thought process is a determining factor in how the business is ran.
Even if funyons are "african american chips".... Last I checked, I'm supposed to let them eat as well.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27113988 - 12/29/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Are you sure he said "african american" chips?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Several things hes said:
" I stocked grape drink and watermelon at my old property because there was more african americans. They love that stuff. Here we don't have many so don't stock it"
As someone in a wheel chair missing his limbs controlling the chair with his chin with a dog on a leash walking beside it :
Boss: "wouldn't that suck?"
Me: "ya, I couldn't imagine being paralyzed"
Boss: "no being that dog And having to put u with a cripple like that all the time. That dogs life must suck. I feel like eugenics would be ethical in that situation. Those people serve no purpose."
Boss: "Hey ( to multiple ppl l Supervise ) vandago likes black girls"
Boss: "you like funyons? Those are african american chips! ( insert grape soda old property story again"
Luggage rack missing:
Boss: "I see a luggage racks is missing. I guarantee that's in a black person's room. Black people are known to steal luggage racks"
Me: " dude are you so racist you just made up a stereotype? No one has ever decided that people of color are notorious luggage rack thieves"
Boss: " trust me. At my old property, any time a luggage rack was missing, it was in a black person's room. Its true."
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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In your employee manual you probably have a duty to report, if shrugged off by GM go head of HR with all the complaints. GM think they are untouchable, they don't understand the power of HR until it's hammer comes down on their head.
I had similar work place situation, guy had numerous complaints of misogyny and racism. I was at a client meeting where he dropped a seriously misogynistic comment, thie fuckker didn't even know the company was 60% women, with a Woman CFO, CEO and chief science officer. He thought it was a good old boys club because the guy they sent for the meeting was in his 50's... he didn't even notice the uncomfortable silence that followed his remark. I went to LB Manager and was brushed off as that being "his style". We are owned by a large conglomerate. I went to HR and they had a meeting with him nothing changed. I Emailed the COO of the conglomerate, as well as CC'd their HR department.
LONG story short I'm walking into the building, he's being walked out by security. Out loud I drop a "bye Karen" obv not his name, all the POC (my office lab is about 68% POC just started laughing so fucking hard.) They had tried to get him fired/moved so many times and failed. About 5 weeks later I got a handwritten letter from the COO, signed by the President and CEO as well thanking me for alerting him to the situation. Apparently the client was going to invoke a culture clause in the contract and cancel the contract, The COO told them the guy had been fired and the training we would undergo. Also all further client meetings would involve me as I had been the whistle blower. I got a check for 5k (saved a 2.5M/yr contract) and promotion and a raise.
TL;DR Get that that shit heal fired. Otherwise your ass will be on the copping block, also very good things may come of you being proactive. Excluding potential clientele is just bad business. If you're not seeing any changes, go higher up the ladder, guarantee somebody up top cares enough to squash a bad middle manager.
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Ice9 said: In your employee manual you probably have a duty to report, if shrugged off by GM go head of HR with all the complaints. GM think they are untouchable, they don't understand the power of HR until it's hammer comes down on their head.
I had similar work place situation, guy had numerous complaints of misogyny and racism. I was at a client meeting where he dropped a seriously misogynistic comment, thie fuckker didn't even know the company was 60% women, with a Woman CFO, CEO and chief science officer. He thought it was a good old boys club because the guy they sent for the meeting was in his 50's... he didn't even notice the uncomfortable silence that followed his remark. I went to LB Manager and was brushed off as that being "his style". We are owned by a large conglomerate. I went to HR and they had a meeting with him nothing changed. I Emailed the COO of the conglomerate, as well as CC'd their HR department.
LONG story short I'm walking into the building, he's being walked out by security. Out loud I drop a "bye Karen" obv not his name, all the POC (my office lab is about 68% POC just started laughing so fucking hard.) They had tried to get him fired/moved so many times and failed. About 5 weeks later I got a handwritten letter from the COO, signed by the President and CEO as well thanking me for alerting him to the situation. Apparently the client was going to invoke a culture clause in the contract and cancel the contract, The COO told them the guy had been fired and the training we would undergo. Also all further client meetings would involve me as I had been the whistle blower. I got a check for 5k (saved a 2.5M/yr contract) and promotion and a raise.
TL;DR Get that that shit heal fired. Otherwise your ass will be on the copping block, also very good things may come of you being proactive. Excluding potential clientele is just bad business. If you're not seeing any changes, go higher up the ladder, guarantee somebody up top cares enough to squash a bad middle manager.
Our buy out is 100% in effect as of the 1st. They've decided to keep us all and continue to grow instead of clean house. Everyone who's heard him has agreed he shouldn't be in charge of us when that's his way of operating. And yes, it is my duty as a supervisor to go about it in the most professional way possible.
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Racism isnt cool. I'd go to HR for sure
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
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The ONLY way I'd go to texas is to show you nutcases that chicken wings can be good
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
#27114449 - 12/29/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Ain't no thang.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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He's just old and has been conditioned to be racist. I thought you we're talking about a 25 year old.
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Wings can never be good
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Ice9]
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Ice9 said: In your employee manual you probably have a duty to report, if shrugged off by GM go head of HR with all the complaints. GM think they are untouchable, they don't understand the power of HR until it's hammer comes down on their head.
I had similar work place situation, guy had numerous complaints of misogyny and racism. I was at a client meeting where he dropped a seriously misogynistic comment, thie fuckker didn't even know the company was 60% women, with a Woman CFO, CEO and chief science officer. He thought it was a good old boys club because the guy they sent for the meeting was in his 50's... he didn't even notice the uncomfortable silence that followed his remark. I went to LB Manager and was brushed off as that being "his style". We are owned by a large conglomerate. I went to HR and they had a meeting with him nothing changed. I Emailed the COO of the conglomerate, as well as CC'd their HR department.
LONG story short I'm walking into the building, he's being walked out by security. Out loud I drop a "bye Karen" obv not his name, all the POC (my office lab is about 68% POC just started laughing so fucking hard.) They had tried to get him fired/moved so many times and failed. About 5 weeks later I got a handwritten letter from the COO, signed by the President and CEO as well thanking me for alerting him to the situation. Apparently the client was going to invoke a culture clause in the contract and cancel the contract, The COO told them the guy had been fired and the training we would undergo. Also all further client meetings would involve me as I had been the whistle blower. I got a check for 5k (saved a 2.5M/yr contract) and promotion and a raise.
TL;DR Get that that shit heal fired. Otherwise your ass will be on the copping block, also very good things may come of you being proactive. Excluding potential clientele is just bad business. If you're not seeing any changes, go higher up the ladder, guarantee somebody up top cares enough to squash a bad middle manager.
Best advice ever! Please do this Vandago!
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Patlal said: How old is the guy?
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He's just old and has been conditioned to be racist. I thought you we're talking about a 25 year old.
no excuses. you're never "too old" to learn new tricks. you're never "too old" to learn to treat others with respect, regardless of what age, skin color, sexual orientation, sexual identity, spirituality, etc they are. some leeway may be given to those with literal dementia, as that's an actual mental illness, but for the rest? you're just going to have to suffer that horribly uncomfortable feeling that is facing the truth - that you're a racist prick and it's time to man/woman/adult up and stop doing so.
you can't change what you've done in the past, but you can change your actions in the future. "too old" is just an excuse for saying "too lazy/too Karen" to change.
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#27115814 - 12/30/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Patlal said: How old is the guy?
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He's just old and has been conditioned to be racist. I thought you we're talking about a 25 year old.
Just like skin color. I do not discriminate against age difference either. It falls under the same lines of segregation. I'm actually surprised that makes it ok?
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#27116538 - 12/30/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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vandago said: I just haven't made a decision yet on the best decision. I don't need to "wire up" nor would I. That was, once again, all recorded by he company. The company does not know it was said multiple times, and the thought process is a determining factor in how the business is ran.
Even if funyons are "african american chips".... Last I checked, I'm supposed to let them eat as well.
No funyons wouldnt make sense in that joke
The whole shabang on the otherbhand...
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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Funyuns are kind of good, never heard them stereotyped towards a specific demographic though 
I would sooner eat those crispy casserole onions like a bag of potato chips probably.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
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Funyuns are STONER food....get your stereotypes right, sheesh
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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I had some steakhouse flavor funyons once, can't find them anymore and they were the best ones ever!
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
#27116869 - 12/30/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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vandago said: I just haven't made a decision yet on the best decision. I don't need to "wire up" nor would I. That was, once again, all recorded by he company. The company does not know it was said multiple times, and the thought process is a determining factor in how the business is ran.
Even if funyons are "african american chips".... Last I checked, I'm supposed to let them eat as well.
No funyons wouldnt make sense in that joke
The whole shabang on the otherbhand...
If I could order the whole shebang or dirty salt and vinegar, I wouldn't order anything else.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Ah, that's why they're good.
What is "dirty" salt and vinegar? The regular salt and vinegar is good, is dirty the spicy kind?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27116897 - 12/30/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Alright, it's official; I'm craving Funyuns...
All thanks to you people!
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Patlal]
#27116982 - 12/30/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Mmmmm....Purple Stuff
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Alright, it's official; I'm craving Funyuns...
All thanks to you people!
I'll wash it down with purple stuff.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
#27117085 - 12/30/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Purple stuff and funyons sound bangin right now.
"Dirty" is a brand of chips sold in the prison system. They have hands down the best salt and vinegar chips. They also make a flavor called "the whole shebang".
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vandago said: Several things hes said:
" I stocked grape drink and watermelon at my old property because there was more african americans. They love that stuff. Here we don't have many so don't stock it"
As someone in a wheel chair missing his limbs controlling the chair with his chin with a dog on a leash walking beside it :
Boss: "wouldn't that suck?"
Me: "ya, I couldn't imagine being paralyzed"
Boss: "no being that dog And having to put u with a cripple like that all the time. That dogs life must suck. I feel like eugenics would be ethical in that situation. Those people serve no purpose."
Boss: "Hey ( to multiple ppl l Supervise ) vandago likes black girls"
Boss: "you like funyons? Those are african american chips! ( insert grape soda old property story again"
Luggage rack missing:
Boss: "I see a luggage racks is missing. I guarantee that's in a black person's room. Black people are known to steal luggage racks"
Me: " dude are you so racist you just made up a stereotype? No one has ever decided that people of color are notorious luggage rack thieves"
Boss: " trust me. At my old property, any time a luggage rack was missing, it was in a black person's room. Its true."
He should be a comedian
I loved the switch up to no for the dog
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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I busted up laughing when he said it.
I only added that to show hes actually trying to be funny.
I'm overly concerned that he then takes humor and acts accordingly with the view point. A rape joke is no longer funny if you're a rapist. I feel the same about racism. It's bad for business and it's bad for a younger generation to have to endure.
No one should be enduring my job. You're supposed to be as carefree as possibly to ensure hundreds of people are safe and comfortable. How can I explain to a guest that's overheard something that dudes "funny"?
I tell some dicey jokes for sure, but I don't tell sex, misogynistic, or racist jokes in the work place. It's a can of worms. As is telling on him. I feel like there's a more suitable approach.
Quite frankly if he said that stuff in his office I'd be more apt to accept it as joking, but he says it point blank in the middle of the lobby floor in earshot of everyone.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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I think he trusts you
mark normand bit - racism is a sign someone trusts you in the workplace should be treated like cigarettes - take that shit outside
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
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Wrongfully trusts you because that's shit you keep to yourself and other people you grew up with
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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You could always start being racist about his race in front of him, you know, fight racism with racism
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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stzacrack said: Wrongfully trusts you because that's shit you keep to yourself and other people you grew up with
An u laughed
I laughed at the dog joke because it was edgy as fuck to tell your employee. I do some comedy, I couldn't not laugh at a savage joke like that. He didn't say we should remove the ramp because there's not many wheelchairs around. Ramps aren't just for wheelchairs.
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spirit_shadow said: You could always start being racist about his race in front of him, you know, fight racism with racism 
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: You could always start being racist about his race in front of him, you know, fight racism with racism 
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: stzacrack]
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Don't tell me cripples now identify as black. Everyone wants something for free.
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Kyngwhatt said: perhaps you could try and help him? I know a lifetime of bad experiences probably made him that way but maybe you could get through to him. Do you work in Baltimore or something?
*edit just read previous post* you should really fuck with his head and tell him you like black guys.
Wait what does Baltimore have to do with anything?
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Boss: "wouldn't that suck?"
Me: "ya, I couldn't imagine being paralyzed"
Boss: "no being that dog And having to put u with a cripple like that all the time. That dogs life must suck. ."
I say shit like that all the time 🤷♂️
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Boss: "wouldn't that suck?"
Me: "ya, I couldn't imagine being paralyzed"
Boss: "no being that dog And having to put u with a cripple like that all the time. That dogs life must suck. ."
I say shit like that all the time 🤷♂️
Recently I’ve been obsessed with those freaky children in the Shriners hospital ads. I’m pretty sure they are adults with some kind of Benjamin buttons condition.
Soooo unwoke dude. Funny, but unwoke.
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Nobody wants to see that shit, especially if you’re trying to eat a meal. Today the fat one with the kinda deep voice who looks 20 years old and 5 years old at the same time got into an argument with the one who wears a bow tie and probably sleeps in a shoe box. One was like “I just had my 17th surgery” and the other said he had only had 13. And they’re trying to get me to send them money? This hospital sucks. These kids have been in their commercials for like two decades and 30 fucking surgeries. Time to give up. Whatever they’re doing isn’t working. I’ll send them $1000 bucks if they put these kids out of their misery.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: koods]
#27118911 - 12/31/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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I took this picture and made the kids head look like a big alien head because no way these kids are human. Please send him money to help fund his out of control addiction to surgery.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: koods]
#27118921 - 12/31/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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And it’s not like I hate sick kids. This series of tweets made me cry harder than I have in a long time. This must be awful. But at least beans won’t end up in a fucking Shriners hospital commercial.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: koods]
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27123317 - 01/03/21 07:20 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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So far my favorite idea is telling him I love black cock.
Im sure he suspects this already.
if not that might break his brain.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27123362 - 01/03/21 08:01 AM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: You could always start being racist about his race in front of him, you know, fight racism with racism 
So far my favorite idea is telling him I love black cock.
I honestly think this will be the most effective lol
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Psicomb]
#27124147 - 01/03/21 03:00 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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What if he says prove it?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
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Then you show that man what it means to truly luv black cock
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Psicomb]
#27124165 - 01/03/21 03:09 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Hell's yeah, you take that cock like a champ!!
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
#27124193 - 01/03/21 03:28 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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I had a really good talk with my boss and employees. I actually really liked this thread for all the points of view. I can't always make the best decisions when my brain acts like it does. After a better way to approach him in regards, he was more than receptive to the issue. It was more so like I thought, just preconditions and not knowing how to word what he wants to say. I'm glad the situation resolved like it did.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124199 - 01/03/21 03:33 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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can you elaborate on the conversation?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Kyngwhatt]
#27124258 - 01/03/21 04:11 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Lol. Gotta Double down, as they say
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: Kyngwhatt] 2
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Kyngwhatt said: can you elaborate on the conversation?
My original approach was "bruh wtf?" And then upon reflection realized that he didn't observe himself as doing anything wrong. He just acknowledges difference he sees based on numbers and statistics. He wasn't exactly being racist, just going for the best sales. He even told me we can try out whatever stuff I want to see works. He mainly just didnt want me to order things that would go out of code. Really he was trying to help me and be comical. With my sense of humor he wasn't aware anything he said would cause me or anyone else actual discomfort. Instead of just kinda mentioning it to him, I saw his point of view and I think both of us learned a lot about each other. I'm becoming more stable and secure every day. I worked really hard and dealt with so much pain to achieve this level of comfort. I don't want to watch someone else strip me of that when it's not deserved. Sometimes I need a collective opinion from like minds to ensure what I'm thinking is even real.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124386 - 01/03/21 05:30 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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I'm kind of suspicious about him just being about the statistics and just trying to be funny. Maybe he had a change of heart though
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago] 1
#27124413 - 01/03/21 05:42 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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I think that says a lot about you. you were able to be reasonable and compassionate after all that shit was bothering you
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124415 - 01/03/21 05:43 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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He may have needed to sleep on it. We are going through so many changes as a company. I can't say I word everything perfect. For example I swear by accident a lot, and I also say things like "dude" and "you guys" which can really piss certain people off. If no one catches up to me and says not only "wtf bruh" but "wtf bruh, you can't say that due to the fact that..."
And since it was discussed everyone has told me positive things about the overall attitude. I feel as tho a huge part of my job is conflict resolution at my level of expertise, and I shouldn't waste my bosses time unless I really think I have a positive solution. I want to make sure the trust goes both ways between the two of us. We work really well together. Hes had to check me a couple times over rando things I've said that weren't necessarily wrong or intended on being offensive, but could come across that way.
My employees give me advice and opinions all the time. It helps us all grow collectively. With the diversity in our workplace, we will always have mild conflicts and that can easily remain mild if dealt with like adults.
I don't want to lose support right now either. Autism and winter depression are hitting hard right now, and I actually had to ask a few people for help making sure I don't mess up. I go through some really dark times that result in benzos and opiates. I don't ever want that again.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124475 - 01/03/21 06:24 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Maybe all is well then, in which case, kudos. But I have my own issues. Not autism, but effectively similar.
I still wouldn't trust the guy in your position, but if you feel comfortable now then that's what this thread was for, thread complete. Good job, sir
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124505 - 01/03/21 06:38 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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I've got my own reasons to trust him to the extent you should trust any boss, and the same goes for distrust. We could both easily be immature and step all over the other one, but if I kept going my whole life like that, I'd just be even more doomed. I brought in my diagnoses from my doctor so I can help relay as to why issues like this cause me to over analyze and lose sleep. He genuinely looked like he felt terrible and apologized and said he never doubted my diagnose for a second. He said if there's ever issues in my head to just ensure when I tell him, I get a rational and solid point across.
He also pointed a huge huge English error I make all the time....which is "who the fuck is he"?. I never ever have focal points to my nouns...I just say he she them that those...I never give nouns their proper title and confuse the shit out of everyone. I never noticed I did that, and no one had ever told me. That's going to allow me to articulate my thoughts so much better. I didnt realize I was rambling to the point I was practically incoherent at times. I haven't been doing very well up until the last year of my life.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124531 - 01/03/21 06:51 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Glad you're doing well. I don't understand about the the pronouns issue though, did you accidentally misgender someone or dude you us terms like "dude" a bit loosely and someone found that offensive?
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124537 - 01/03/21 06:56 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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Based on your post you maybe referred to a she as as he, but maybe not in person? Don't sweat that. Girls at one of my jobs call me Girl all the time. Girl please.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124561 - 01/03/21 07:14 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Like I start every single conversation out without really giving the listener an idea of what I am even talking about.
For example.... "Did you hear what the guy said to me yesterday about her hat?"
That sentence can not properly be dissected into anything other than "what guy? And who is she? What fucking hat?"
I didnt realize when I talked it made people actually have to sit and decipher my words. I'm always just so stoned I think the dumb shit I say is profound. Apparently its confusing at best.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124587 - 01/03/21 07:25 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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That's cool, as long as you don't mean to be offensive to others you can usually talk it out if miscommunication occurred. Can kinda suck at first, just be genuinine and let it play out though. Can't help ya when it doesn't actually play out fine though, that does happen and it sucks
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124594 - 01/03/21 07:28 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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I have Schizotypal Personality Disorder. I'm not too bad at being social, but sometimes I am. Can be quite difficult
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime]
#27124609 - 01/03/21 07:34 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Since I started getting a much more sober mindset, my brain doesn't cope as well verbally.
Part of my decision making in how to go about this "issue" ( just did it again. By issue, I'm referring to the OP, not my wet brain )stemmed from another co worked coming directly to me about saying "goddammit" all the time. To me that word is the same reaction word as "ouch" or "woah"...to this individual I was damning both of us to hell everytime I bumped into something. I never would have noticed had he not talked to me about it like an adult. He even point out that he mentioned it several times lightly and had to figure out the best way to approach me so it wouldn't be a workplace issue he had to deal with.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124658 - 01/03/21 08:07 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Ah, I use "goddamit" every day, emphatically, as it has the punch I need to deliver, since I live around mostly folks with some sort of Christian background, that is actually why it's so effective. I live in place where that's only acceptable to say sometimes, you have to read the room, which is where I tend to fail, socially. I often make the mistake of thinking it's socially acceptable to say when it isn't. That's ok though no one is going to kill themself because you said that, no matter how outraged they present themselves to be. It's alright
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: MorphinTime] 1
#27124670 - 01/03/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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It's not alright if I say it so much its causing someone to dread my existence and pray for me. I would say its meaningless out in public, but when I'm in the workplace and someone is forced to be around me, I want that interaction to be as painless and smooth sailing as possible. I don't have to react and blurt out something, let alone make that something blasphemy. Though it is just a word to me, its hell to someone else.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124683 - 01/03/21 08:22 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Dude, work is work. Ya gotta always wear a different face there than when you're at a bar with your friends. It's like not cursing around kids. Just takes practice. Problem is when you get too comfortable with the people you work with, and let shit slip.
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124725 - 01/03/21 08:42 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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yeah, i'm not so sure if "dude", "guys", and "bro" are really something that should count as offensive, despite being gendered - because in a way, they're often used as non-gendered terms. i've often heard girls using it, even to other ladies, and i've often heard guys addressing each other as "ok ladies!" or "ok gals!" for humor.
i realize the term started off as gendered and it also can be used as such, but just as how gay used to mean happy and now is used to mean guys attracted to other dudes (and to a lesser extent, same sex attraction in general, though gals tend to prefer their own term i believe, for better distinction), words just tend to get yoinked away from their original purpose as culture develops over time. you can fight it, but it's very rarely successful and just easier to roll with it usually.
on the other hand, misgendering someone deliberately, such as calling a trans person by the wrong pronoun - that shit is intentionally bigoted and doesn't fly by any standard of decent morality, "scientific definitions of sex" be damned. (P.S. - you're wrong. science says so. you might want to have a look at recent scientific journals, or ask an actual sex psychologist or specialist in the field, so they can give you a verbal dressing down for being a jackass.)
obviously you can't make everyone happy at all times, but intent is important with these things, as is communicating and calmly discussing everyone's feelings on these matters. (well, as calmly as possible at least.) so long as people are not trying to hurt each other with their words, and discussing how to avoid such deliberate wounds, things run smoothly in the workplace. other than, of course, the times uncomfortable topics are necessary for the benefit of the person made uncomfortable, such as discussing how they might improve their productivity (or not be such a racist. )
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27124781 - 01/03/21 09:06 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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vandago said: It's not alright if I say it so much its causing someone to dread my existence and pray for me. I would say its meaningless out in public, but when I'm in the workplace and someone is forced to be around me, I want that interaction to be as painless and smooth sailing as possible. I don't have to react and blurt out something, let alone make that something blasphemy. Though it is just a word to me, its hell to someone else.
I get you. Blasphemy is such a powerful word in itself, I mean, imagine what it must feel to experience that. You seem like you care a lot for the way others feel. You've probably made immense progress if you have autism for real, awesome dude!
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Re: My bosses blatant racism in the workplace is actually making me uncomfortable [Re: vandago]
#27135866 - 01/08/21 05:37 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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Hell yeah! Great job mate!
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