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Shrooms a few days before acid trip?
    #27108796 - 12/26/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm doing acid w/ a friend on NYE. I have some shrooms. If I take the shrooms tonight or tomorrow, will it affect the new year's eve acid trip?


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: zoeawake]
    #27108798 - 12/26/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Probably not by much... Everyone is different but for the most part your tolerance will go away within a week


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: zoeawake]
    #27108802 - 12/26/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

yes it will.. after 3 days break, about half of your tolerance will be restored. maybe take a little more acid but not twice the amount, that might be too much again...


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: epilectric]
    #27108869 - 12/26/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'd take them together if it were me :crazy2:


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Rise against] * 4
    #27109541 - 12/26/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Tolerance is a very personal thing. There's averages and there's what happens. Some people barely experience tolerance at all whilst for others it's like a brick wall just 2 hours after dosing the first time. It can also be either of those things for people at different times in life. There's no set rule.

If you search up tolerance graphs you will see what the average response is. How this translates between a mushroom trip and an LSD trip will depend entirely on intensity of the first. If you like tripping go nuts though. Eat your mushies and then eat a larger dose of the acid on New Year's (just to be sure). You can have it all, just not all the time.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #27109588 - 12/26/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The "No set rule" is why I encourage people to either learn their own responses through experimentation (understanding there's a likelihood of disappointment) or if they are planning a major experience, go to the cautious side of recommendations, just to be sure.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: LeafRaker]
    #27110644 - 12/27/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Northerner said:
Tolerance is a very personal thing. There's averages and there's what happens. Some people barely experience tolerance at all whilst for others it's like a brick wall just 2 hours after dosing the first time. It can also be either of those things for people at different times in life. There's no set rule.

If you search up tolerance graphs you will see what the average response is. How this translates between a mushroom trip and an LSD trip will depend entirely on intensity of the first. If you like tripping go nuts though. Eat your mushies and then eat a larger dose of the acid on New Year's (just to be sure). You can have it all, just not all the time.



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The "No set rule" is why I encourage people to either learn their own responses through experimentation (understanding there's a likelihood of disappointment) or if they are planning a major experience, go to the cautious side of recommendations, just to be sure.





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I concur with both of yas.

Tolerance def depends on the individual.





For myself. I find LSD to be much more "sensitive" to tolerance than mushrooms are. I notice tolerance with LSD more than I do with mushrooms.

Putting myself in the OPs situation. If I dosed some mushrooms today then I'd still likely have a pretty full on LSD trip on NYE but def a chance of some lingering tolerance. But 4 to 5 days should be enough time that there'd be almost no noticeable tolerance for me.

And if it was the other way around...if I dosed some LSD today and took some mushrooms on NYE, from experience I know I'd for sure have a full on trip with the mushrooms on NYE. I would have no concerns about tolerance.






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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #27111048 - 12/27/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Tolerance is a very personal thing. There's averages and there's what happens. Some people barely experience tolerance at all whilst for others it's like a brick wall just 2 hours after dosing the first time. It can also be either of those things for people at different times in life. There's no set rule.






Mine changed over time, as a teenager 3 days was enough, now it's like over a month. I encourage people to wait more than the bare minimum. I may have to switch to once or twice a year it's hard for me to trip now with normal doses. I used to be fucked from 80 mics or a gram, now 300 micrograms I can barely feel it same as 3.5 grams. I think waiting for longer is a better idea than constantly upping dose as these are already large doses. I don't want to be the guy who needs a 10 strip. Watch out for long term perma tolerance I guess is what I'm saying....


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: viraldrome]
    #27111060 - 12/27/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Tolerance is a very personal thing. There's averages and there's what happens. Some people barely experience tolerance at all whilst for others it's like a brick wall just 2 hours after dosing the first time. It can also be either of those things for people at different times in life. There's no set rule.






Mine changed over time, as a teenager 3 days was enough, now it's like over a month. I encourage people to wait more than the bare minimum. I may have to switch to once or twice a year it's hard for me to trip now with normal doses. I used to be fucked from 80 mics or a gram, now 300 micrograms I can barely feel it same as 3.5 grams. I think waiting for longer is a better idea than constantly upping dose as these are already large doses. I don't want to be the guy who needs a 10 strip. Watch out for long term perma tolerance I guess is what I'm saying....





Interesting. Do you think microdosing regularly can create any kind of perma tolerance?


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Rise against]
    #27111069 - 12/27/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I guess piggybacking off this post, I think these last 3 days have been my first experience with tolerance, but I'm not absolutely sure.

On Christmas Eve (starting just before noon) I did 3.5g lemon tek'd shrooms, and had nearly 10 hours of tripping. Christmas Day I took about 2/3 of a cooking sherry extract of 25g morning glory seeds, with a few drops of cinnamon and peppermint extract added a few hours before drinking. That trip ended up being a very relaxing and interesting 6 hours. Yesterday I took my homemade mimosa brew (~5g rue, 20g bark, 7.5 hours total boil time and filtered), which I assumed was going to absolutely destroy me even considering tolerance, since I hear other people only using 5-10g of mimosa bark for a normal dose. However, this last one basically did nothing. 2 hours of mild visuals, and then just low level nausea the rest of the night.

Does that sound like tolerance, or more like just another shitty brew on my part?


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: quillip]
    #27111635 - 12/28/20 04:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmm...what do *you* think????


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: quillip]
    #27111697 - 12/28/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I guess piggybacking off this post, I think these last 3 days have been my first experience with tolerance, but I'm not absolutely sure.

On Christmas Eve (starting just before noon) I did 3.5g lemon tek'd shrooms, and had nearly 10 hours of tripping. Christmas Day I took about 2/3 of a cooking sherry extract of 25g morning glory seeds, with a few drops of cinnamon and peppermint extract added a few hours before drinking. That trip ended up being a very relaxing and interesting 6 hours. Yesterday I took my homemade mimosa brew (~5g rue, 20g bark, 7.5 hours total boil time and filtered), which I assumed was going to absolutely destroy me even considering tolerance, since I hear other people only using 5-10g of mimosa bark for a normal dose. However, this last one basically did nothing. 2 hours of mild visuals, and then just low level nausea the rest of the night.

Does that sound like tolerance, or more like just another shitty brew on my part?




Perhaps it was bad rootbark, unless you had tested it beforehand. I know the one I have is pretty bad, since a proper preparation I made with 3.5g rue and 11 g bark was somewhat weak.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: LeafRaker]
    #27111699 - 12/28/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

DMT effects are not negated by tolerance in any meaningful way. You can take it during, after and anytime... even every day and it will still kick your ass.

You actually got lucky man, it's unwise to megadose oral DMT.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #27112031 - 12/28/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Hmmm...what do *you* think????




Tbh could be either, I've not really had luck with mimosa brews yet, which is one of the reasons I went to 20g bark (down from the 25 I was initially planning). In the couple weekends where I've tripped both days, the second day was stronger each time as well. I guess I was hoping to learn if there is a telling difference between tolerance and just weak dosage.



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Perhaps it was bad rootbark, unless you had tested it beforehand. I know the one I have is pretty bad, since a proper preparation I made with 3.5g rue and 11 g bark was somewhat weak.




I guess I don't know the actual strength of the bark. I managed to pull enough freebase for a couple threshold vaping experiences from 28g of the same, likely using poor vaporization technique and coughing out the first pull entirely. Didn't have a mg scale at the time.

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DMT effects are not negated by tolerance in any meaningful way. You can take it during, after and anytime... even every day and it will still kick your ass.

You actually got lucky man, it's unwise to megadose oral DMT.




I've heard lots of conflicting opinions on the first point, and it doesn't really make sense to me that there wouldn't be some amount of tolerance. As for luck, well, I'll never know in this instance now :tongue:


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: quillip]
    #27112064 - 12/28/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I've found that Mushies definitely have a "increase your tolerance for the next week or so" impact than LSD -- particularly if it's a 2g+ trip.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: quillip]
    #27113000 - 12/28/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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DMT effects are not negated by tolerance in any meaningful way. You can take it during, after and anytime... even every day and it will still kick your ass.

You actually got lucky man, it's unwise to megadose oral DMT.




I've heard lots of conflicting opinions on the first point, and it doesn't really make sense to me that there wouldn't be some amount of tolerance. As for luck, well, I'll never know in this instance now :tongue:



I couldn't find any conflicting opinions on the first point on shroomery. People here tend to be talking from experience rather than their parents basement. When searching this site I even found people discussing how it's weird that it doesn't build a tolerance and possible reasons behind that.

To quote you...
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In the couple weekends where I've tripped both days, the second day was stronger each time as well



This thread has become muddied now, 2 threads in one. Next time start your own thread bro, you'll get more replies as well. Maybe straight up ask if DMT is effected by tolerance or has cross tolerance with other psychedelics, without any back story, see what people say.  :wink:


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #27113065 - 12/28/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

I've never noticed any tolerance with dmt whether smoked or taken orally. I've smoked every 15 minutes multiple times in a row without any loss of potency and on the few occasions I've taken it orally two days in a row if anything it's been stronger the second day.


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Re: Shrooms a few days before acid trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #27113485 - 12/29/20 04:46 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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Tolerance is a very personal thing. There's averages and there's what happens. Some people barely experience tolerance at all whilst for others it's like a brick wall just 2 hours after dosing the first time. It can also be either of those things for people at different times in life. There's no set rule.

If you search up tolerance graphs you will see what the average response is. How this translates between a mushroom trip and an LSD trip will depend entirely on intensity of the first. If you like tripping go nuts though. Eat your mushies and then eat a larger dose of the acid on New Year's (just to be sure). You can have it all, just not all the time.




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