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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27108656 - 12/26/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's a difference between taking someone seriously and considering someone's actions to be dangerous.

I actually can't name a single personality that I take seriously. Can;t say I ever got in depth with Howard Stern, so I can;t speak to that, but from my exposure to Rogan podcasts, my most generous explanation of him is, again, a useful idiot/stooge for literally anyone to broadcast their bullshit to a wide audience. Jimmy Dore is the same thing, except on crack and with a bit of Tosh.O flavor. This goes for democrat drivel as well. Rachel Maddow is a fucking joke 99% of the time.




I'm sorry dude but I think you got it wrong.


Can I just say this as a statement of fact? And you take it for what it is?

For years and years the comment sections were flooded with republicans who believed Rogan was a republican. Because hes super into fitness (like me) super into nature (like me) super into hunting (like me). But what they didnt see was he was super lefty (like me). So I had nonstop arguments with other rogan lovers that he was republican. I knew for a FACT he wasnt LONG before he ever came out as a Bernie Sanders supporter (which actually was very recently).


These people who thought he was a republican had their own misunderstanding of what joe is all about. And I reckon... you too have a misunderstanding.


I take joe at his word. Entirely. Because I've seen him be weak. I've seen him cry. I've seen him angry. I've seen him annoyed. I am pretty damn confident that who I think he is.... he actually is.



You say hes a useful idiot. Hes a very intelligent person. Being wrong does not automatically mean youre an idiot. I get drunk or fucked up on countless drugs and I say stupid ass fucking shit. I fuck women I would never fuck. I say shit I would never say. That doesnt mean I'm an idiot. It makes me fuckin human god damnit. We need to stop fucking vilifying people who display the very traits ALL OF US display when we are at our worst. All that is going to fucking do is stop people from showing who they REALLY are.


The very person Dave Rubin claims to be... this person who gives everyone a platform for their ideas.... thats who Joe Rogan ACTUALLY is. Its god damn impressive. And if you dare spout nonsense on his podcast that he catches on to..... he will fucking pile drive you into the floor with facts. He absolutely DEMOLISHES people who have visible flaws that they wont accept. Its fucking beautiful.



I'll give you a personal example. This means something to me. So look at it as if it means something to me. I fucking LOVE neil degrasse tyson. I always loved him. I've read all his books. I thought he was fucking the shit. He went on Joe Rogan.... and Joe made it painfully clear that the man is egotistical. And though I absolutely hated to admit that he was..... he definitely is.

This is the kind of insight you can get from Joe interviewing people that youll never get with ANYONE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD. Literally NO ONE will give you this kind of an interview. How in the god damn fuck do you not see that? He is a real ass fucking person being real as fuck and giving people every opportunity to try and make a point.




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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108661 - 12/26/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I definitely agree about jimmy fore these days. I would say shows like his are waaaay more dangerous than someone like Joe. When joe has alex jones on he corrects him every step of the way and also makes it a point to let his audience know that alex is a lunatic. It sucks that these days people just believe that because someone gets air time, that their opinions/lies/ whatever are somehow validated.





Oh god dont get me started on jimmy dore. I cant stand the cunt.


But yeah watching an Alex Jones interview with Joe will fucking seriously put motherfuckers to the test. When they realize Alex Jones is not spouting 100 percent nonsense it really fucks with their world view.


I think Alex is a shill just selling his doomsday products. But god damnit it the man actually makes sense WAY MORE Than you would think lol. He should pay joe to stay around him and explain what the fuck hes saying.


Its sad. Theres so much nuance that I cant convey to yall. I hate Alex Jones. But he has a few solid points.


I mean fuck. This is a forum post I made about how I hate Alex Jones. And I'm still saying he has a some gems.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #27108666 - 12/26/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's a difference between taking someone seriously and considering someone's actions to be dangerous.

I actually can't name a single personality that I take seriously. Can;t say I ever got in depth with Howard Stern, so I can;t speak to that, but from my exposure to Rogan podcasts, my most generous explanation of him is, again, a useful idiot/stooge for literally anyone to broadcast their bullshit to a wide audience. Jimmy Dore is the same thing, except on crack and with a bit of Tosh.O flavor. This goes for democrat drivel as well. Rachel Maddow is a fucking joke 99% of the time.




I'm sorry dude but I think you got it wrong.


Can I just say this as a statement of fact? And you take it for what it is?

For years and years the comment sections were flooded with republicans who believed Rogan was a republican. Because hes super into fitness (like me) super into nature (like me) super into hunting (like me). But what they didnt see was he was super lefty (like me). So I had nonstop arguments with other rogan lovers that he was republican. I knew for a FACT he wasnt LONG before he ever came out as a Bernie Sanders supporter (which actually was very recently).


These people who thought he was a republican had their own misunderstanding of what joe is all about. And I reckon... you too have a misunderstanding.


I take joe at his word. Entirely. Because I've seen him be weak. I've seen him cry. I've seen him angry. I've seen him annoyed. I am pretty damn confident that who I think he is.... he actually is.



You say hes a useful idiot. Hes a very intelligent person. Being wrong does not automatically mean youre an idiot. I get drunk or fucked up on countless drugs and I say stupid ass fucking shit. I fuck women I would never fuck. I say shit I would never say. That doesnt mean I'm an idiot. It makes me fuckin human god damnit. We need to stop fucking vilifying people who display the very traits ALL OF US display when we are at our worst. All that is going to fucking do is stop people from showing who they REALLY are.


The very person Dave Rubin claims to be... this person who gives everyone a platform for their ideas.... thats who Joe Rogan ACTUALLY is. Its god damn impressive. And if you dare spout nonsense on his podcast that he catches on to..... he will fucking pile drive you into the floor with facts. He absolutely DEMOLISHES people who have visible flaws that they wont accept. Its fucking beautiful.



I'll give you a personal example. This means something to me. So look at it as if it means something to me. I fucking LOVE neil degrasse tyson. I always loved him. I've read all his books. I thought he was fucking the shit. He went on Joe Rogan.... and Joe made it painfully clear that the man is egotistical. And though I absolutely hated to admit that he was..... he definitely is.

This is the kind of insight you can get from Joe interviewing people that youll never get with ANYONE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD. Literally NO ONE will give you this kind of an interview. How in the god damn fuck do you not see that? He is a real ass fucking person being real as fuck and giving people every opportunity to try and make a point.




Btw I'm fuckin drunk. Lol.




The term useful idiot doesnt really have to do with intelligence. It means you push an agenda under the guise of ignorance, if that makes sense. My whole thing is I dont think rogan has an agenda. He has his opinions and he talks them out. Thats it.

I know alot of people got on his ass over lgbtq issues because of his opinions of trans athletes. Some of them might think hes right wing because of those opinions. People just dont see politics as a spectrum. They see it as a line with a left and a right.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #27108665 - 12/26/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

In fact I'll go a step further. Almost EVERYTHING Alex says is based off fact. He just twists it to bolster whatever hes selling.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 1
    #27108670 - 12/26/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Dude I fucking hell rate you.

I like the way you think. Youre exactly correct I believe. He just talks shit out. Thats all hes about. The hate Joe gets absolutely drives me mad.


And if you ever get into his wheelhouse (like trans in female sports) he will take ZERO shit from you and will fucking tell you why the fuck you are wrong.


God I love it.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108673 - 12/26/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh but I dont think Joe is pushing an agenda under the guise of ignorance.


Not a chance in hell. He is way too open to be doing that.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #27108686 - 12/26/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with alot of what he says about trans athletes. Men who become women have weight advantages, more bone density etc...that give them physiological advantages to naturally born women. I dont think this is in any way a politically motivated stance to have either. But people have called joe anti trans because of this. Which is bullshit its just physiology/biology.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108699 - 12/26/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree with alot of what he says about trans athletes. Men who become women have weight advantages, more bone density etc...that give them physiological advantages to naturally born women. I dont think this is in any way a politically motivated stance to have either. But people have called joe anti trans because of this. Which is bullshit its just physiology/biology.





Yep dude exactly. You can clearly see with things like this (which are HIS wheelhouse) that he has no shits to give about political motivation. It IS an advantage for a formerly male human to become a female human and compete against females. It does not matter what the fuck you think or how you came to your conclusions..... it is unfair. Trans should compete against trans.

Joe and I both dont give a fuck if that sounds sexist or transphobic.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Oldnameforgotten] * 1
    #27108707 - 12/26/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Or just have one unified league. No mens league or womens league if it doesnt matter.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108723 - 12/26/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I take joe at his word. Entirely. Because I've seen him be weak. I've seen him cry. I've seen him angry. I've seen him annoyed. I am pretty damn confident that who I think he is.... he actually is.




Joe Rogan is an entertainer. Just like any other entertainer, he has a very well crafted and very well thought out persona. It just happens to vibe with you. And a lot of other young males.

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I'll give you a personal example. This means something to me. So look at it as if it means something to me. I fucking LOVE neil degrasse tyson. I always loved him. I've read all his books. I thought he was fucking the shit. He went on Joe Rogan.... and Joe made it painfully clear that the man is egotistical. And though I absolutely hated to admit that he was..... he definitely is.




Really? Because Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a lot like Bill Nye. I don't discount his education, but they're both entertainers. Yeah, no shit they're egotistical fucks. If they weren't, they would spend less time in front of a camera and more time in the lab.

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He is a real ass fucking person being real as fuck and giving people every opportunity to try and make a point.




No he isn't. That's just his public persona. He's in the business of making money and growing his podcast. His continued success is why that persona is well manicured.

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I agree with alot of what he says about trans athletes. Men who become women have weight advantages, more bone density etc...that give them physiological advantages to naturally born women. I dont think this is in any way a politically motivated stance to have either. But people have called joe anti trans because of this. Which is bullshit its just physiology/biology.




Unfortunately, that physiology/biology isn't (yet) backed up by, ya know, actual physiological/biological research. Fact is, if you're an athlete above highschool, maybe college level, you're a fucking mutant already. Very few people can be athletes, and that's not just a factor of training. That's a factor of being in the 0.0001% range of the bell curve.

While I personally lean towards that being unfair from a common sense standpoint, I refuse to take that stand because there is no science backing it up. A distinction between me and Rogan.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Kryptos]
    #27108733 - 12/26/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Theres definitely something to be said in that athletes in general are going to be "mutants" like you said. But someone who was born woth testosterone to fuel their mutations is going to have a leg up on those who grew to maturity with estrogen.


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    #27108749 - 12/26/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Also joes ability to change his opinion based on evidence is why I like him. Nothing is set in stone with him. Good on you for not having an opinion before you see conclusive evidence though. If everyone were that way I dont think there would be conversations at all though.


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Re: Dave Rubin, Alex Jones [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108756 - 12/26/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I just don't enjoy hearing stupid people talk, so I don't like Joe Rogan.  He's stupid, and a lot of his guests are stupid.  I may as well be watching reruns of Donahue.


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    #27108762 - 12/26/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That is absolutely an opinion. Of which joe admits even. Unlike someone like jimmy dore who goes around calling everyone idiots for not believing him. Which makes me like him better.


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    #27108766 - 12/26/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, it is.

Mr. Rogan is a reality game show host, much like our President.  I don't really see either as having a whole lot to offer vis a vis serving our more lofty intellectual goals.



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    #27108790 - 12/26/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I just don't enjoy hearing stupid people talk, so I don't like Joe Rogan.  He's stupid, and a lot of his guests are stupid.  I may as well be watching reruns of Donahue.




What is stupid?

Is my cat stupider than you?

Would you like to prove that my cat is stupid in a mouse catching contest?

Joe Rogan is a lot of things, and a lot of them are negative, just like any other human, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him stupid. After all, you know his name, does he know yours?

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And for you motherfucker. Youre just being obtuse. Obtuse and you know it. Yes I "obtuse" from shawshank redemption. But fuck you bro. Rogan has nothing you can specifically hate him for except points where he was wrong and now accepts that he was wrong. Thats more than can be said about you or anyone you know.

If anything you should build rogan a fucking statue.

Fuck yall motherfuckers.

Name a cunt with more integrity than joe rogan. They dont fucking exist. Stop bad mouthing REAL MOTHER FUCKERS and maybe real mother fuckers might dominate the world stage. Instead of these fucking shills like dave rubin.




Rogan has plenty of reasons to be hated. Some are valid, some are invalid. In my opinion, he has little to no integrity, just like any other person who's income depends on an audience. That's not necessarily a judgement on him as a person, so much as a judgement on his career. Which could be seen as a judgement on his person, and has most definitely affected his persona.

Either way, Rogan enjoys and abuses a level of celebrity worship I find distasteful. He's a Kardashian by a different name, in some regards.


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    #27108793 - 12/26/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I wouldn't go so far as to call him stupid. After all, you know his name, does he know yours?



Intelligence is measured by how many people know one's name?  Wow.  That says a shitload about the culture and actually supports my statement about reality TV and its effect upon American intellectualism.  Thank you for that.

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    #27108848 - 12/26/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No, intelligence, in my opinion, is measured by ability.

Hence my cat example.

That being said, there are different sorts of intelligence. I think it is disingenuous to claim someone is unintelligent when they are a celebrity, because they are clearly doing something right.

I wouldn't call Kim Kardashian dumb, for the sole purpose that I know I cannot do what she does successfully.


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    #27108863 - 12/26/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

A broken clock "does something right" twice a day.  Intelligence is a spectrum, so when I call Rogan stupid, I mean that he has an intellectual capacity that is below average, and in his case, significantly so. 

I know some fucking amazing welders who are top notch at their jobs and make a lot of money.  Some of them are very intelligent.  Some of them are dumb as dirt.  Having a skill may indicate intelligence or it may not.  You're basically saying, "everyone is intelligent in their own way" which is to negate the very meaning of the word.  Insofar as I use the term stupid, I use it to mean something.  That's pretty much the purpose of words.



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