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No yield whatsoever from 200grams mimosa hostilis stb tek.
    #27108424 - 12/26/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, I was hoping to get some pointers here. I did an extraction on 200 grams mimosa hostilis using Noman’s tek. The only thing that deviated from the tek was using more lye, I did the research first and it was clear that using more lye cannot hurt yeilds. I did this to be sure I had enough because from what I’ve read it’s better to have more than less. I’ve done this before and got decent yields. I also used slightly less water, due to the size of my jar but from what I’ve read the only  thing that could affect is making the sludge too thick so the naphtha doesn’t separate. It separated just fine, in fact better than any other extraction ive done. It wasn’t much less, maybe a cup. I also had to pour off a little of the mimosa sludge before adding the naphtha because the naphtha wouldn’t fit, but not much maybe 1/8 of the extraction if that. I used slightly more naphtha as well, about a tenth of a cup. I did heat the naphtha slightly but by the time I put the naphtha in the mimosa sludge had cooled, it was at least 6 hours after mixing the lye and bark, in my previous extractions I only waited an hour and it was still warm so I’m thinking maybe coming in contact with the cooler water bark mixture it could have cooled the naphtha. I am going to try using the same naphtha I pulled off only less,, heat the mimosa sludge in a warm water bath so it doesn’t cool the naphtha, warm the naphtha more this time. And stir/mix for at least an hour before pulling it off. I don’t feel good about evaporating it under a fan, my apartment complex is pretty tight so I’m worried about my apartment smelling like lighter fluid and raising some red flags. Anything I’m missing? Thanks. Edit: I did the freeze precipitation overnight, I have done this before and got good yields. The bark is also high quality, from a vendor that people have nothing but good things to say about (Mayan magic soaps). I even took an extra step of soaking and freezing/thawing the bark once to break cell walls.


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Re: No yield whatsoever from 200grams mimosa hostilis stb tek. [Re: InvisibleMind] * 1
    #27108918 - 12/26/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

freeze precip, no crystals?

evap the naphtha until it turns cloudy at room temperature then freeze precip. if the naphtha is not at least sort of close to saturation with alkaloids they will remain in solution even in the freezer.

it’s also possible that your freezer isn’t getting cold enough, but I bet it’s the concentration of alks in the nps.

evapping naphtha sucks, but it’s hard to get away from. it will probably only take an hour or so in a pyrex with a fan on it (outside or at least by a window) to get cloudy... if you use less nap for the first pull in the future it’s likely to be more saturated when you put it in the freezer.


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Re: No yield whatsoever from 200grams mimosa hostilis stb tek. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153] * 1
    #27108921 - 12/26/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

the temperature of the naphtha during the pull is not as big of a factor as you might think. I used to do the first pull or two while the jar was still hot from the lye dissolving, but did plenty of further pulls at room temp. never even thought about the temperature


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Re: No yield whatsoever from 200grams mimosa hostilis stb tek. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153] * 1
    #27109695 - 12/26/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Did all the steps mentioned above, put it under a fan and evaporated about half the naphtha off, it’s been in he freezer for 30 min and I already see crystals. That was defenitely it. Also added more lye this morning but more likely the naphtha. Thanks. Idk if I would have tried that had you not mentioned it. Just did it all in the bathroom with the door shut and fan on and the smell wasn’t bad.


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