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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Enlil]
    #27108454 - 12/26/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Most likely, the person who placed the bomb vehicle fired shots into the air as he left the vehicle parked in order to wake people in the neighborhood.  He/she may have thought that the recording wouldn't be enough to ensure that everyone got the message.






absolutely.

however, it seems like the authorities are attempting to hype this situation up, as opposed to searching for the most logical/reasonable conclusion.


we'll see what happens.....


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Enlil]
    #27108458 - 12/26/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The quoted lady said that she heard three bursts of gunfire which were apparently coming from the RV, followed by the countdown. I think she would have mentioned someone fleeing the scene.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27108466 - 12/26/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27108470 - 12/26/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, she/he steps out, fires a few in the air, moves to the back of the rig and does it again, then to the other side to do one more. The shots would be muffled by the rv, and she/he probably wanted to ensure everyone heard.

Unless this witness has sonar, I don't know how she could "see" anyone with her ears, fleeing or otherwise.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Enlil]
    #27108495 - 12/26/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nashville-police-investigating-christmas-morning-vehicle-explosion-n1252357

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Williams' son, who was visiting from Georgia for the holiday and staying in one of the vacation units, noticed the RV parked across the street and thought it seemed suspicious, she said. Then she heard a voice coming from the vehicle warning that it was about to explode.




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"I do want to say in retrospect, we've talked about it, we feel like those gunshots were a recording as well. Not actual gunshots," Madlom said. "I mean, we feel like it was a recording because there was the sound the pattern to it. By the third time we heard it was exactly the same."




Her kid was looking out the window, and she later said she thought it was a recording.

Either way, doing warning shots in person would be pretty stupid, considering the whole big-ass car bomb in the age of terrorism thing. Considering the recorded warning, it makes more sense to also record gunfire. In the age land of mass shootings, that grabs attention.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Enlil]
    #27108518 - 12/26/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah, she/he steps out, fires a few in the air, moves to the back of the rig and does it again, then to the other side to do one more. The shots would be muffled by the rv, and she/he probably wanted to ensure everyone heard.

Unless this witness has sonar, I don't know how she could "see" anyone with her ears, fleeing or otherwise.




One witness I saw said he was familiar with guns and they didn't sound like shots to him.  Who knows, but that thing rolled up and parked at like 1:30am so I bet whoever did this was two states over by the time it went down.  Probably rigged fireworks to go off before the warning.  They locked down Nashville fast as fuck, there's no way someone would put this much work into it and stick around until the last minute methinks.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: unam sanctum]
    #27108532 - 12/26/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That also lends credence to the incompetent bomber theory. Any idiot knows that they should be far away from a crime scene. That's pretty basic.

Building and using an effective bomb is a much more involved endeavor. It's why effective bombers tend to be either very smart (serial killers that use bombs average 140 IQ, compared to the under 100 of most serial killers), or have years of military experience in EOD/demolitions.

It's also why suicide bomber are quite common. The smart guy building the bomb stays far away, the idiot walking the bomb into the target is only a relatively foolproof delivery mechanism.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27108576 - 12/26/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this





Multiple sources cite police as saying they were responding to shots fired, including a quote from the supposed woman who called in the shots fired to 911.


learn to read.




nothing about any of this makes sense, and the interviews with authorities, their mannerisms, pace, and word choice make the situation seem all the more suspicious.



Read what?

Can you post the source explaining what the shots were please


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods]
    #27108585 - 12/26/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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Quote:

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What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this





Multiple sources cite police as saying they were responding to shots fired, including a quote from the supposed woman who called in the shots fired to 911.


learn to read.




nothing about any of this makes sense, and the interviews with authorities, their mannerisms, pace, and word choice make the situation seem all the more suspicious.



Read what?

Can you post the source explaining what the shots were please






i've read 5+ articles since yesterday morning and they have all had this statement in there, as well as the video of the public briefing.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/us/nashville-tn-explosion/index.html

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Several local residents told CNN they woke to the sound of gunfire early Friday morning. Police said they were called to the location after a report of shots fired around 5:30 a.m.




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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27108589 - 12/26/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yet no explanation of what the shots were

Are you drunk?


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27108591 - 12/26/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Is it possible that people thought recorded gunshots were actual gunshots and called the police? Yes. Absolutely plausible and it does add up...


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods]
    #27108593 - 12/26/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Captain Obvious thinks a motorhome exploding in downtown Nashville following a 15 minute recorded warning is "suspicious."


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods] * 1
    #27108600 - 12/26/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yet no explanation of what the shots were

Are you drunk?






no, are you?



your quote says this:

koods said:
What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this





the police have stated they were reporting to possible gunfire.  so yes, the police have said something about it.  they are not denying a report of gunfire, thus is in line with the "strange reports" you've heard or seen.



seeing as how there has been no mention of shells/casings or residues so far, it's not likely there were gun shots, or at least not directly near the RV itself.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27108602 - 12/26/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Is it possible that people thought recorded gunshots were actual gunshots and called the police? Yes. Absolutely plausible and it does add up...






exactly.  both this and Enlil's scenarios are equally plausible and likely


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Tulipslave]
    #27108604 - 12/26/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yet no explanation of what the shots were

Are you drunk?






no, are you?



your quote says this:

koods said:
What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this





the police have stated they were reporting to possible gunfire.  so yes, the police have said something about it.  they are not denying a report of gunfire, thus is in line with the "strange reports" you've heard or seen.



So you don’t know what the gunfire was ether.

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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods] * 1
    #27108607 - 12/26/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Is it possible that people thought recorded gunshots were actual gunshots and called the police? Yes. Absolutely plausible and it does add up...




exactly.  both this and Enlil's scenarios are equally plausible and likely




No, Occam's razor dictates that one is much more likely than the other. Specifically, the recording.

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Quote:

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koods said:
Yet no explanation of what the shots were

Are you drunk?




no, are you?

your quote says this:

koods said:
What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this


the police have stated they were reporting to possible gunfire.  so yes, the police have said something about it.  they are not denying a report of gunfire, thus is in line with the "strange reports" you've heard or seen.



So you don’t know what the gunfire was ether.

OK




You're starting to move some goalposts now.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods] * 1
    #27108613 - 12/26/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Tulipslave said:
Quote:

koods said:
Yet no explanation of what the shots were

Are you drunk?






no, are you?



your quote says this:

koods said:
What I find strange is reports of a significant amount of gun fire in the 20 minutes or so before the explosion, but the police have said nothing about this





the police have stated they were reporting to possible gunfire.  so yes, the police have said something about it.  they are not denying a report of gunfire, thus is in line with the "strange reports" you've heard or seen.



So you don’t know what the gunfire was ether.

OK






you didn't ask what the gunfire was.  you clearly stated, "but the police have said nothing about it" implying they haven't commented on any gunfire.


use your words better.  mean what you say, say what you mean.


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27108614 - 12/26/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You're thinking it's more likely to be recordings than actual gunfire?  I don't see how you come to that conclusion.  Anyone who's ever actually heard a gun shooting outside of his home can tell the difference instantly unless the motorhome is equipped with a serious subwoofer array.

Residue or casings isn't really an issue since the explosion would leave residue everywhere and the casings could easily never be found (or it could have been a revolver or a firearm equipped with a casing catcher.)


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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: Enlil]
    #27108618 - 12/26/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

But we have reports of people who do know what gunfire sounds lile saying it sounded like a recording. One woman who I believe was in cnns report changed her mind and said they sounded like a recording upon thinking about it longer. It would make sense if the bomber wanted to get away and wanted few casualties as well.


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    #27108627 - 12/26/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

And that may turn out to be true.  Who knows?  I don't think we have enough information now to know one way or another.  I also think it makes absolutely no difference at this point whether it was recorded or live, since no one was shot.

One factor that goes against recorded gunfire is that it's pretty arbitrary.  If they really wanted something that's going to get people awake, why not a blaring siren or something less fleeting than gunfire?  If you're just recording it anyway, gunfire seems like a pretty shitty choice.


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