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#27118022 - 12/31/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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america is a fucking european fairy tale shits everywhere
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#27118043 - 12/31/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/12/nez-perce-tribe-reclaims-ancestral-village-site-in-eastern-oregon.html Nez Perce Tribe reclaims ancestral village site in eastern Oregon Updated Dec 29, 2020; Posted Dec 29, 2020 3,708 shares By The Associated Press JOSEPH — The Nez Perce Tribe is reclaiming an ancestral village site in eastern Oregon more than a century after being pushed out of the area.
This month, the tribe purchased 148 acres of an area known as “the place of boulders,” or Am’sáaxpa, Oregon Public Broadcasting reported.
Chief Joseph once held council on the ridge above, before a sweeping view of the Wallowa Mountains. Tribal members would camp there and catch sockeye salmon along the Wallowa River.
“We feel fortunate to be at this juncture in time to be able to say that we are on our way home. We feel the landscape misses us, and we miss the landscape,” Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee Chairman Shannon Wheeler said.
The land was part of an 1855 treaty that granted the tribe millions of acres and the right to fish and hunt on lands ceded to the U.S. government. But then the U.S. Army forced the Nez Perce to leave the area in 1877, in violation of that treaty.
Nakia Williamson-Cloud, cultural resource program director for the Nez Perce Tribe, said many history books are wrong in saying tribal members never returned to the area. Those who returned were often harassed or cited for trespassing, Williamson-Cloud said.
“It’s been a long struggle for our people to maintain that connection, but they did,” he said.
The purchase consists of farmland located behind the Joseph Rodeo Grounds. It includes Wallowa River frontage and some water rights.
The land has changed dramatically. Now, there’s a dam blocking sockeye from swimming up to Wallowa Lake. Williamson-Cloud said the tribe is hoping to reintroduce sockeye to the area and create fish passage into the lake.
— The Associated Press
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/12/25/nez-perce-tribe-eastern-oregon-reclaims-ancestral-land/
Nez Perce Tribe reclaims 148 acres of ancestral land in Eastern Oregon
By Cassandra Profita (OPB) Dec. 25, 2020 1:47 p.m. Purchase includes traditional fishing grounds and meeting place. The Nez Perce Tribe is reclaiming an ancestral village site in the Eastern Oregon town of Joseph more than a century after being pushed out the area.
This month, the tribe purchased 148 acres of an area known as “the place of boulders,” or Am’sáaxpa.
Chief Joseph held council on the ridge above, before a sweeping view of the Wallowa Mountains. Hundreds of tribal members would camp there at the peak of the fishing season and catch sockeye salmon along the Wallowa River.
“There’s a lot of excitement buzzing around,” Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee Chairman Shannon Wheeler said. “We feel fortunate to be at this juncture in time to be able to say that we are on our way home. We feel the landscape misses us, and we miss the landscape.”
 Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee Chairman Shannon Wheeler stands on the tribe's newly purchased property near the Wallowa Mountains in Joseph.
Courtesy of the Nez Perce Tribe
The land was part of an 1855 treaty that granted the tribe millions of acres and the right to fish and hunt on lands ceded to the U.S. government.
But then the U.S. Army forced the Nez Perce to leave the area in 1877, in violation of that treaty.
Nakia Williamson-Cloud, cultural resource program director for the Nez Perce Tribe, said many history books are wrong in saying tribal members never returned to the area after the Nez Perce War.
“The narrative is that the Nez Perce never went back there. That is not the case,” he said. “After that, our people would continue to go back there to hunt and fish under persecution. It was privatized by non-Indian homesteaders.”
Those who returned were often harassed or cited for trespassing, Williamson-Cloud said, even though the 1855 treaty guaranteed their right to hunt and fish there.
“It’s been a long struggle for our people to maintain that connection, but they did,” he said. “Having that back and forth relationship with the land is what defines who we are. ... It’s not just some place our people visited. The very ground we walk on is made up of our ancestors. That’s how deep our connection is.”
 Nez Perce Tribal Executive Committee Chairman Shannon Wheeler (right) and Secretary Rachel Edwards sign paperwork completing the purchase of 148 acres of the tribe's ancestral land in Eastern Oregon.
Courtesy of the Nez Perce Tribe
The purchase consists of farmland previously known as the Hayes property, located behind the Joseph Rodeo Grounds. It includes Wallowa River frontage and some water rights.
The land has changed dramatically since the Nez Perce left the area in the 1800s. Now, there’s a dam blocking sockeye from swimming up to Wallowa Lake, so the fishery that was once the tribe’s main attraction to that site isn’t possible.
Williamson-Cloud said the tribe is hoping to reintroduce sockeye to the area and create fish passage into the lake.
“Our culture and way of life is tied to the land, and the land has been utterly transformed and changed,” he said. “We’ve had to try to adapt to those changes as best we can.”
Buying the land back demonstrates the tribe’s resilience, Williamson-Cloud said, and it has much deeper meaning for the tribal community than simply having legal title.
“These places are defining characteristics of our people because our people’s lives, culture and spirituality are tied to these places,” he said. “When we’re disassociated from these places it affects our well-being as people.”
Wheeler said the tribe may use the land for tribal operations as well as traditional harvests.
“First and foremost is the healing that will take place for the Nez Perce people,” he said. “We speak to the land. We try to listen and understand what the land is saying. That’s what come first. We have promises that we’ve made to the land and we look to uphold those.”
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/30/rebroadcast-the-nez-perce-war/
After the Civil War ended, Gen. Oliver Otis Howard was put in charge of the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen and Abandoned Lands, the first social welfare organization in this country. But after the efforts of Reconstruction collapsed, Howard got as far away from the politics of Washington, D.C. as he could — he came to Portland. And it was in Oregon that he met Chief Joseph and led a four-month military campaign against the Nez Perce Tribe. Historian Daniel Sharfstein’s latest book, “Thunder in the Mountains: Chief Joseph, Oliver Otis Howard and the Nez Perce War,” tells that story. We spoke to Sharfstein in 2017.
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: MadMuncher]
#27118613 - 12/31/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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I wasn't arguing with you, just observing the similarity to potholes found in bedrock stream beds or former stream beds
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: ballsalsa]
#27118637 - 12/31/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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I remember seeing one of those whirlpool holes on a school excursion to a National Park, perfectly round, about 3 foot deep and big enough for a school kid to jump into and onto a snake.
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: MadMuncher]
#27118697 - 12/31/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Similar holes can be caused by moving water spinning a hard rock. You find them here and there in bedrock if you look for gold
its on a talus slope bottom of cliff look in an oak grove look closely


Looks natural to me
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Sometimes you can find the rock that cut the hole at the bottom if someone hasn't already dug out the hole looking for nuggets
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#27119021 - 12/31/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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if i was grinding nuts those are the kinds of rock i would work with. you wouldn't carve an entire bowl unless you had to. there are some in a creek near me in an old native camp in a hazelnut grove ill see if they'll let me take pictures
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods]
#27119024 - 12/31/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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i think they are too smooth to be natural it looks worked to me
i bet they've found points around there
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#27119036 - 12/31/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Water makes the smoothest holes. It’s like atomic sandpaper.
I’m not saying they didn’t grind their nuts (lol) in them. I’m saying the holes look natural.
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Stable Genius said: I remember seeing one of those whirlpool holes on a school excursion to a National Park, perfectly round, about 3 foot deep and big enough for a school kid to jump into and onto a snake.
Sounds like a normal day in Australia
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#27119057 - 12/31/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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ballsalsa said: I wasn't arguing with you, just observing the similarity to potholes found in bedrock stream beds or former stream beds
there are some on some extended fam property in dorado cnty along the top of a hill old oaks everywhere. there are springs on all sides at they top and it is a known archaeological site the universities go to owned by water bro. they had a war with the miners lots of stuff around that hill but all the creeks were dredged and hydro'd and every tree was cut they washed off all the soil
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: koods]
#27119126 - 12/31/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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... further thread jacking, sorry 
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You're not wrong... seen these in the last month, plus a few more I didn't get a pic of

I was bitten on the face by a spider a few years back, now I have a depression in my top lip where the skin rotted.
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what kind of snakes and spider?
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#27119572 - 01/01/21 02:16 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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That looks like some kind of python. Not venemous.
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Re: So...who bombed Nashville? [Re: MadMuncher]
#27119632 - 01/01/21 03:48 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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My friend has 50 acres on the Mary River, both pics are from her place and I actually think that's the same snake in both pics, a Coastal Carpet Python. We chased a good size brown snake into the banana plants at my uncles place over Christmas but lost sight of it.
https://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/coastal-carpet-python/
The spider I don't know what sort. I came out of a customers roof all hot and bothered and turned on their garden hose to cool down. Had the hose close to my face and all of a sudden my face got hot, like when you get petrol on your skin. Saw a small spider drop off my shirt but still hadn't realised I'd been bitten. 9 days later half my top lip was still swollen and hard, so I went to the Drs and he gave me a steroid cream which got rid of the swelling but left a crater.
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My father in law’s place in Perth had lots of spiders, mostly red backs which didn’t really impress me, they’re just black widows like we got here. I saw a huntsman eat a skink. That was impressive. I didn’t see a single snake in the country, and I went on a walkabout in uluru. Saw a wild camel. Got chased in my car by a dingo. No snakes.
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#27120661 - 01/01/21 03:47 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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I worked at Yalara when one of the convention centres was refurbished, which is where you would've stayed, and didn't see any snakes around there either, or at The Olga's. Saw a good size centipede though.
Snakes are hit and miss, I mostly see them squashed on the road, but this time of year it's not uncommon to see them.
lol the dingo chased your car.
Stood on a stingray once, it's tail came round and stung me on top of the foot, that hurt. Went to hospital, they put my foot in a bucket of hot water, gave me a jug of boiling water and said pour it in until it's as hot as you can stand... almost instant relief. The Dr said the raised temperature stops a protein in the poison from working... then got a needle of novacaine.
There are stonefish around here. And salt water crocodiles.
These signs start about 300km north of Brisbane


There'd be people that'd swim across that and laugh... I'm not one of them.
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I did the astronomy session in yalara. One of the darkest skies in the world. It’s crazy to see the milky part of the Milky Way.
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#27120728 - 01/01/21 04:32 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Cool I never climbed Uluru, out of respect, and the view from the flight in from Sydney was enough... the first thing I thought was, gee that thing looks old. Walking around it was really interesting too.
The Darwin museum is absolutely worth going to, they have a stuffed 5.1mtr crocodile.... it's frightening. The cyclone Tracy exhibit/room is wicked too.
The chick I went with to Darwin hadn't been back since she was airlifted out by the army in 1974 after cyclone Tracy flattened the city... her sister spent a week believing her entire family had been killed. They survived but 65 people didn't. That cyclone led to the Building Code being completely re-written for the Northern Territory and Queensland.
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