Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineArron
Stranger
Registered: 12/11/20
Posts: 20
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Rise against]
    #27093687 - 12/17/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



They (mushrooms) have been like the character "Ditto" in this fight scene from the Pokemon movie.
Morphing into different characters in my sleep.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArron
Stranger
Registered: 12/11/20
Posts: 20
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27093721 - 12/17/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The dream state is not sane.
The pscycedelic experience is not sane.
That mushrooms can have (negative) effects on these states is a fact.

To say they can "bring out" or "trigger" an underlying condition is a decietful use of words.
They (cause) symptoms of these conditions in some people.


Edited by Arron (12/17/20 09:02 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRise against
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 09/06/16
Posts: 255
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27093791 - 12/17/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
The dream state is not sane.
The pscycedelic experience is not sane.
That mushrooms can have (negative) effects on these states is a fact.

To say they can "bring out" or "trigger" an underlying condition is a decietful use of words.
They (cause) symptoms of these conditions in some people.




"In some people." Exactly, They are not for everyone. Not everybody knows if they are at risk for psychiatric disorders, but people with a history of psychiatric issues or family history of psychiatric issues should not use psychedelics or any substance for that matter.


Edited by Rise against (12/17/20 09:49 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArron
Stranger
Registered: 12/11/20
Posts: 20
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Rise against] * 1
    #27093821 - 12/17/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

They are promoted as a treatment for depression.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMalkuthian
Fetus
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/15
Posts: 668
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 12 hours, 5 minutes
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27093832 - 12/17/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
They are promoted as a treatment for depression.



Treatment for depression usually is.

And they are. But all medication does not work for all people...
Especially not when the set, setting and dosage is controlled by the subject himself.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArron
Stranger
Registered: 12/11/20
Posts: 20
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Malkuthian]
    #27094118 - 12/17/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The mushrooms had said in one of my 5gram trips that
"I can work with mushrooms".

You cannot tell if they will be safe for you.
They can lie and trick you.

Here are some quotes from an online research paper;

"(Moore, 2002). Thus, the shaman’s perception is made psychedelic. This psychedelic state is permanent, for a powerful psychological agent, such as a psychedelic, changes you forever. Counter-conditioning a psychedelic experience is extremely difficult. It may happen, however."

"A psychedelic survey was administered through the Internet. The sample was comprised of numerous individuals who have all used psychedelics. The participants are of different ages, ranging from 18 year olds to 60+ year olds. The question, “Have psychedelics changed you permanently?” was asked. There were 51 participants. Ninety-two percent of participants answered yes. As indicated in the psychedelic survey (Wilkins, 2008), once this psychedelic potential is made manifest, it stays manifested for conditioning has taken place (Moore, 2002)."


Edited by Arron (12/17/20 01:03 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineInnerWisdom
Male

Registered: 08/09/19
Posts: 1,936
Loc: North EU
Last seen: 6 days, 15 hours
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27094157 - 12/17/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
The dream state is not sane.
The pscycedelic experience is not sane.
That mushrooms can have (negative) effects on these states is a fact.

To say they can "bring out" or "trigger" an underlying condition is a decietful use of words.
They (cause) symptoms of these conditions in some people.



This is very true. The dream state and psychedelic experience state have much in common. And the negatively experienced effects on these states is fact as well.
Your warning is heard and valid.
Now, for you it seems important to me that you learn to navigate and understand the experiences you went or are going through. It is not rational and doesn't necessarily make sense at first. Maybe you can start talking about the issues you have currently instead of trying to convince us that mushrooms are poisonous and evil (which they aren't).


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMalkuthian
Fetus
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/15
Posts: 668
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 12 hours, 5 minutes
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27094438 - 12/17/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
"A psychedelic survey was administered through the Internet. The sample was comprised of numerous individuals who have all used psychedelics. The participants are of different ages, ranging from 18 year olds to 60+ year olds. The question, “Have psychedelics changed you permanently?” was asked. There were 51 participants. Ninety-two percent of participants answered yes. As indicated in the psychedelic survey (Wilkins, 2008), once this psychedelic potential is made manifest, it stays manifested for conditioning has taken place (Moore, 2002)."




Does the study say whether the 92% think the change is good, bad, or neutral?

I would answer YES, without any doubt. Shrooms has change my life, I would not be the same person without ever having tried them.
The same thing goes for Music
And art
And literature
And school.
And career
And life Partner
And having children
Etc.
Etc.

This is life.
Why are you portraying this as something problematic?

That some thing has a deep and powerful effect on existence is not a bad thing.



Are you perhaps experiencing your problems because you were not ready to change who you are as much as you did from these experiences?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepincheburro
Stranger
Registered: 08/17/18
Posts: 262
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Malkuthian]
    #27094521 - 12/17/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

i want hear more about the RAPE, purely from a psychological standpoint.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRise against
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 09/06/16
Posts: 255
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron]
    #27094555 - 12/17/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
They are promoted as a treatment for depression.




Depression isn't a thought disorder like schizophrenia, delusions, paranoia or psychosis. It's a mood disorder.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRise against
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 09/06/16
Posts: 255
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Arron] * 1
    #27094565 - 12/17/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Arron said:
They are promoted as a treatment for depression.




Depression isn't a thought disorder like schizophrenia, delusions, paranoia or psychosis. It's a mood disorder.

It likely won't ever be a first line treatment for depression either. But rather used for people for who don't respond to common treatments. There are risks, and a psychedelic experience can be traumatic to some people. They can also be incredibly spiritual and healing to others. Doesn't mean anybody's weak or broken or special or even that mushrooms are bad. They just aren't for everyone. I think that knowing the risks and being educated on the subject can mitigate risks and help people decide whether it's something they truly want to take part in. And if they do, there are right ways to do it and wrong ways to do it.

Most of the time when I hear about bad trips it comes down to 2 things. Poor Set and setting and/or taking too much and freaking out. That doesn't mean that mushrooms are evil, it means that they took too much and weren't expecting it to be so intense. Education is important with everything.

The first time I drank, I drank too much and got alcohol poisoning. Didn't mean I advocated for alcohol to be illegal. I chalked it up to inexperience and ignorance and chose not to do that again.


Edited by Rise against (12/17/20 05:16 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArronH
Stranger
Registered: 12/25/20
Posts: 6
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Rise against] * 1
    #27106895 - 12/25/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

(I could not access my email address to use my account; Arron. I am writing as ArronH.)

I had a stable low mood before I took them (depression).
I have not read anywhere else, about this happening,
(dreams being taken over by abusive visions after taking mushrooms).
It is not talked about, or written about enough. That this kind of thing can happen.
There are more positive reviews than negative.
All severe negative reviews, it seems, are blamed on the individual.
My report is not about a "bad trip" (set or setting etc)
it is about permanent effects, that could happen to anyone.
There was something like a rife frequency in my brain after 10grams.
Now there is a constant ringing in my ears, and abusive tortured visions.

This is not schizophrenia.

It is a living HELL.
Mushrooms have the potential/ability to be EVIL.


Edited by ArronH (12/25/20 04:53 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleHartford
Lawful Good
Male User Gallery


Registered: 11/27/19
Posts: 1,122
Loc: Tennessee
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: ArronH]
    #27106970 - 12/25/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I experienced the tortured visions you're talking about, and I recognize that "living hell" is a good description for them.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineanatomality
Nothern Counterpart
I'm a teapot


Registered: 05/31/20
Posts: 1,354
Loc: North East
Last seen: 11 days, 6 hours
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: Hartford]
    #27106978 - 12/25/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Merry Christmas Arron, I hope you find lasting tranquil peace.


--------------------
“The strength of a person's spirit would then be measured by how much 'truth' he could tolerate, or more precisely, to what extent he needs to have it diluted, disguised, sweetened, muted, falsified.”


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArronH
Stranger
Registered: 12/25/20
Posts: 6
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. *DELETED* [Re: anatomality]
    #27107102 - 12/25/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Post deleted by ArronH

Reason for deletion: I think I have said enough about this.


Edited by ArronH (12/25/20 01:41 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineInnerWisdom
Male

Registered: 08/09/19
Posts: 1,936
Loc: North EU
Last seen: 6 days, 15 hours
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: ArronH]
    #27107182 - 12/25/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

dont blame the mushrooms for something stupid you did and now have to suffer for it. That will get you nowhere.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArronH
Stranger
Registered: 12/25/20
Posts: 6
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27107267 - 12/25/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure you can understand what has happened to me.
I have tried to explain it, and there are drawings on my Facebook page
that show how it feels.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepincheburro
Stranger
Registered: 08/17/18
Posts: 262
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: ArronH]
    #27107301 - 12/25/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

im still waiting to hear about how u were raped...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineInnerWisdom
Male

Registered: 08/09/19
Posts: 1,936
Loc: North EU
Last seen: 6 days, 15 hours
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: pincheburro]
    #27107417 - 12/25/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Do you believe the mushroom spirit or something is now torturing you on purpose? Or something demonic, other than the mushroom?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineArronH
Stranger
Registered: 12/25/20
Posts: 6
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Magic mushrooms RAPED me. [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #27107438 - 12/25/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I have explained what has happened in my report.
I will not explain this torture further than to say it is HELL
They (mushrooms) have RAPED me.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Hail to the magical mushroom..a trip begins.. pharmacopeia 1,896 8 02/23/02 11:46 PM
by pharmacopeia
* A bad mushroom trip... Shiznitz 3,588 17 10/30/08 11:26 AM
by kishou
* my paranoia issue with mushrooms: dying
( 1 2 all )
Vats of Blood 2,239 20 07/16/03 12:55 PM
by Strumpling
* Mushroom Menue du_Rag_scotland 1,850 16 02/08/03 07:37 AM
by Strumpling
* Universal mushroom trip day... whaddya think?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Dogomush 13,031 70 03/20/20 01:21 PM
by Ferdinando
* Post deleted by Anno
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 6,393 26 12/16/01 09:42 PM
by lordmalthus
* Magic chocolate Sterile 1,287 2 02/18/03 05:31 PM
by Cherk
* Mushroom Twinkie Recipe Lana 979 3 04/10/03 09:18 PM
by GWAR

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie
4,343 topic views. 0 members, 7 guests and 4 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.025 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 14 queries.