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Amanita phalloides lookalike
    #2710699 - 05/21/04 01:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm completely stumped on the ID of this one, so if someone can point me in the right direction..

Quick description: It looks like a death cap but has no sign whatsoever of a veil (Plus the spore print isn't white)


Size: 9cm across cap, 10cm tall

Colour: Creamy, slightly darker in middle of cap. stalk same creamy colour.

Gills: off white and free, quite close but deep and slightly brittle.

Spores: Kind of a rusty colour on black paper

Stalk: Solid white flesh that doesn't bruise. slightly spongy. Growing from a volva.

Habitat: from soil under wood chip.

Any ideas?

Edited by Zoanthus (05/21/04 01:26 PM)

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Re: Amanita phalloides lookalike [Re: Zoanthus]
    #2712036 - 05/21/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When doing a spore print for identification purposes you need to do it on white paper. Try verifying the spore print color and see if it isn't more of a pinkish than a rusty color. The pinkish spored mushrooms spore print colors are often tough to tell from various shades of brown, especially if you haven't seen them before.

Your description sounds like a Volvariella. That genus has only 2 species in North America that can get as large as you've described, and one of those is very rare and you almost certainly haven't found it. Which leaves Volvariella bombycina as the most likely mushroom you've found.

There are actually several species of Cortinarius that have a volva, but their volvas look more like ridges at the top of a basal bulb (i.e., like the volva of Amanita pantherina) than the volva typical of Amanita phalloides.

Happy mushrooming!

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Re: Amanita phalloides lookalike [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2717327 - 05/23/04 03:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks, I'll take a look at the spp. you mention. I did also do the spore print on white paper but it was hard to make out the colour - possibly as it was slightly pinkish?

I'm actually in the UK, so not sure if the same applies for which shrooms are local.

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