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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #27105025 - 12/23/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Instead of encouraging the use of the big punch bowl Trump shits in the small one that was put on the table.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: falcon] * 1
    #27105119 - 12/24/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Nah, I think Trump just wants more donations to his super PAC/slush fund.

If he gives people $600, they'll have 600$ to give. If he gives people $2000, they'll have 2000$ to give.

I'm about 99% certain that is the beginning, middle, and end of his thoughts on the subject.

It's what I'd do.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27105126 - 12/24/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27105145 - 12/24/20 02:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No, I don't think so.

It's too generous. It implies that there is a road to kick the can down. Congress, sure, you're right. Both parties are trying to kick the can down the road until there is a clear advantage that someone can use for political/monetary/both gain.

I seriously don;t think that Trump realizes other people are people. I sincerely believe that we are all sitcom characters/cardboard cutouts to him. I'm pretty sure that his worldview is that life is a TV show, he is the star, and over the last four years, he's had serious trouble processing why people might be pissed at him when he's the star of the show and therefore should be always the hero.

I mean, I kinda think you're all figments of my computer's imagination and that I'm the hero, but what do I know?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27105336 - 12/24/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

This is my take on the Democrats jumping on board Trump's idea of a $2000 check. It's not going to happen, but it could definitely shift undecided voters in the Georgia Senate runoff.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27105352 - 12/24/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Do any of y’all really think that the Democrats controlling the house, senate, and executive will translate into anything meaningful?

Leadership is already going back on the promises they did make, what makes any of y’all think they’re gonna start following through on ones they haven’t made?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27105568 - 12/24/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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This is my take on the Democrats jumping on board Trump's idea of a $2000 check. It's not going to happen, but it could definitely shift undecided voters in the Georgia Senate runoff.



Republicans blocked house democrats attempt this morning


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27105572 - 12/24/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Do any of y’all really think that the Democrats controlling the house, senate, and executive will translate into sonething meaningful



Yes. Hell of a lot better than the crap that you get with divided government.

Divided government produces garbage that nobody likes


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods] * 1
    #27105585 - 12/24/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Divided government does nothing.

United government does things people don’t like.

And we can dispense with the Supreme Court argument now because that’s over.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods]
    #27105586 - 12/24/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Who could have predicted that the unanimous consent motion would fail? Even the most master negotiator could not have foreseen this, surely.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27105707 - 12/24/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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It's an interesting bill. Tillis claims it's "narrowly tailored", but as written, could apply to anyone that streams copyrighted material and makes money. Theoretically, having a copyrighted picture in the background of a youtube video could now fall into the category of felony. Plus, the copyright holder can't just let it slide, since the US government would be prosecuting it.



Source?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27105722 - 12/24/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Who could have predicted that the unanimous consent motion would fail? Even the most master negotiator could not have foreseen this, surely.



She called his bluff and the republicans knocked it down.

What else is she supposed to do? Bring everyone back to DC at the last minute because the president changed his mind after the bill his people negotiated passed?

The blame for this chaos belongs with one person


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27105727 - 12/24/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Divided government does nothing.

United government does things people don’t like.

And we can dispense with the Supreme Court argument now because that’s over.




To be fair you won’t be happy with anything. That is obvious.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods] * 1
    #27105735 - 12/24/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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What else is she supposed to do? Bring everyone back to DC at the last minute because the president changed his mind after the bill his people negotiated passed?





Yes?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27105757 - 12/24/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No. That is absurd. You think people can magically find airline seats on Christmas Eve? To do what? Pass a bill they already passed months ago that will go nowhere because Mitch McConnell isn’t going to bring the senate back in session and the chances that trump is doing this in good faith is exactly 0%

Your combination of cynicism and naivety is even more adorable than The Estatics


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods]
    #27105760 - 12/24/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Wouldn't wanna work those legislators too hard.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods] * 2
    #27105766 - 12/24/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Divided government does nothing.

United government does things people don’t like.

And we can dispense with the Supreme Court argument now because that’s over.




To be fair you won’t be happy with anything. That is obvious.




On the contrary: my expectations are actually so low that Biden if Biden only follows through on the woefully inadequate stuff he does promise, like the $50k student debt forgiveness, would be enough to give him credit. I gave him credit for a halfway decent cabinet appointee because the bar is so low.

Reinstate glass steagal.
Impose a wealth tax.
Forgive student debt.
Meaningfully expand Medicaid and/or SS.


But he can’t even do the stuff he said he would do like 2 weeks ago. He deliberately shrunk the $1200 stimulus check to $600 and then bragged about his capacity for compromise. The Dems are gonna go back to business as usual, and use “it’s better than Trump” as an excuse for as long as they can. I don’t see how anyone can draw a different conclusion based on what we’ve seen from the transition team thus far.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods] * 1
    #27105768 - 12/24/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

$900 billion worth of legislation and they can't put a few charter jets into play?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Enlil]
    #27105781 - 12/24/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It’s absurd and you know it because it’s pointless.

The house will be back on Monday, and they will vote on the $2000. Anyone actually think it will go anywhere? Trump has checked out. He probably won’t even come back from mar-a-lago


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27105784 - 12/24/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Divided government does nothing.

United government does things people don’t like.

And we can dispense with the Supreme Court argument now because that’s over.




To be fair you won’t be happy with anything. That is obvious.




On the contrary: my expectations are actually so low that Biden if Biden only follows through on the woefully inadequate stuff he does promise, like the $50k student debt forgiveness, would be enough to give him credit. I gave him credit for a halfway decent cabinet appointee because the bar is so low.

Reinstate glass steagal.
Impose a wealth tax.
Forgive student debt.
Meaningfully expand Medicaid and/or SS.


But he can’t even do the stuff he said he would do like 2 weeks ago. He deliberately shrunk the $1200 stimulus check to $600 and then bragged about his capacity for compromise. The Dems are gonna goback to business as usual, and use “it’s better than Trump” as an excuse for as long as they can. I don’t see how anyone can draw a different conclusion based on what we’ve seen from the transition team thus far.




If you want progressive policies elect a progressive president.


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