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Ovoidhunter
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick]
#27107181 - 12/25/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Queue the butthurt replies.
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koods
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick] 1
#27107189 - 12/25/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would you expect a president who lost more jobs than any president in history to win re-election? Serious question. By numbers, he has one of the worst records ever. Why is it so hard to believe he lost? He failed.
My theory is trump supporters can’t do math
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chopstick
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: Ovoidhunter] 1
#27107194 - 12/25/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: You heard it here first. MAGA is a race.
We need to protect this soon to be extinct subspecies. Maybe put one or two breeding pairs in a zoo. We can observe all their habits, like eschewing formal education and obsessively collecting firearms.
Your a fucking loser koods. What a pitiful fucking existence you lead.
Sadly I can only agree, Koods is a perfect representation of the ugly hypocrisy, bigotry and outright hatred against everyone who has any kind of dissenting opinion that the Left now represents.
He might as well be a robot programmed to repeat whatever talking points he is fed directly from CNN HQ.
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psi
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick] 2
#27107197 - 12/25/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lynnch said: Trump lost the election. By millions of votes. Then he tried to steal the election by filing frivolous lawsuits.. and lost again. 60 times and counting.
If you think it's 'fair game' to march out and murder your neighbors because you don't like how an election turned out, you're a piece of shit and you deserve everything that's coming to you.
No. Trump did, infact, win this election. Then they stopped counting in the middle of the night on election night when Trump had huge margins and just suddenly "found" hundreds of thousands of ballots with statistically impossible 90%+ voting rates for Biden at the last minute, which just so happened to be enough to swing the election back for Biden in every single major swing state simultaneously.
This election was stolen as fuck, and it's not even funny how blatant it was. Unfortunately there are many here who have their heads buried in the sand because they bought into the last 4 years of propaganda brainwashing that has turned millions of people into victims of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Sadly the last 4 years have proven that there are millions of people who lack the ability to think for themselves and will believe whatever fallacious Lies the media tells them so long as it makes them feel better.
Trump did still get 75 million votes, though, so clearly there is still a sizable percentage of people who have broken free from the propaganda. This means there is still hope for the country.
As for "murdering neighbors", nobody is talking about going out and killing their neighbors except for you. That is a very sick exaggeration on your part.
So he won the election before they were done counting the votes?
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: psi] 5
#27107214 - 12/25/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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He did whatever chopstick wants to think he did.
How any grown man can let rudy guilliani and donald trump tell them what is and is not real is truly baffling to me. I genuinely don't think I could find two more shady pathological liars on the planet. Trump has even been saying for 4 years that if he loses he will claim it was all fraud and not commit to conceding. He's literally telling people he is hustling them as he hustles them.
Yet in trumpy chopstick land, they alone are the beacons of truth. Governors, judges, election officials, the supreme court, trump's justice department, etc. etc. etc. are the ones lying. Every single one of them, all together, in a conspiracy to steal the election from the candidate that many of them voted for and wanted to win.
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#27107230 - 12/25/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really, truly, cannot wrap my head around how gullible and ill-infromed people are. Everything about 2020 has just brought it all to the forefront. Grown men acting like little children because they have no ability to cope with and accept a reality that is different from the one they want to be real.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick]
#27107233 - 12/25/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lynnch said: This election was stolen as fuck, and it's not even funny how blatant it was.


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psi
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: feevers] 3
#27107242 - 12/25/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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In MAGA world, Trump was right to call victory election night when a ton of votes still weren't in, and simultaneously the media were premature in calling the result later on when enough votes were in to actually know who won.
Additionally, it is in no way suspect that Trump announced ahead of the election that he would attribute any 2020 loss to fraud. Or that in his four years as president, he never managed to get to the bottom of the massive voter fraud he claimed robbed him of the popular vote in 2016. Couldn't be that he has demonstrated a pattern of making such claims when he is unable to actually prove they are true.
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koods
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick]
#27107243 - 12/25/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: You heard it here first. MAGA is a race.
We need to protect this soon to be extinct subspecies. Maybe put one or two breeding pairs in a zoo. We can observe all their habits, like eschewing formal education and obsessively collecting firearms.
Your a fucking loser koods. What a pitiful fucking existence you lead.
Sadly I can only agree, Koods is a perfect representation of the ugly hypocrisy, bigotry and outright hatred against everyone who has any kind of dissenting opinion that the Left now represents.
He might as well be a robot programmed to repeat whatever talking points he is fed directly from CNN HQ.
I’m not the one who wrote the longest essay they’ve ever written about how their bullets will explode someone’s head
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chopstick
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: Asante]
#27107248 - 12/25/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Orange guy lost. Orange guy fans disgruntledly talk about going boom boom. Orange guy bad assessment therefore justified.
That's rich, coming from the guy who has openly cheered on the Democrat's election fraud-enabled coup against Trump while openly talking shit against an entire American political class from your high horse position thousands of miles away in Europe.
What you don't seem to realize is that if your half-a-billion dead from nuclear war assessment comes to pass, that this war will be triggered by the Neocons who control Biden & Harris' puppet strings, not by Trump. War with Russia would never happen under Trump's watch.
But I suppose nuclear war is acceptable in your view as long as it's not the Orange Man leading the charge.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: psi] 6
#27107259 - 12/25/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every major media outlet was reporting what was obvious for months. Trump would get more in-person votes on the day of, Biden would get the bulk of mail-in and makes the comeback. It's almost like that's what happens when one candidate tells people not to vote by mail and the other encourages them to vote by mail.
Then it happens, and every trumpy acts like it's some unexpected front on democracy with no explanation.
But chopstick's inability to live in reality is obvious even just in this thread. He says no one is talking about killing their neighbors except Lynnch, yet Ovoid talked about it in direct terms. It's like he has brain worms that seem to gobble out any fragments ot his reality that he does not want to exist. There's no point debating someone who denies objective reality, it's a lost cause and he'll never realize it. He doesn't want to, reality is way less fun than fantasy land.
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psi
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick] 2
#27107262 - 12/25/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Outside of the MAGA propaganda bubble, everyone could see that these lies of fraud were coming before the election even happened. If there was really a Democrat-enabled fraud coup, then surely some of the judges he personally appointed would have been able to throw him a bone in one or two of those lawsuits.
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koods
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick]
#27107272 - 12/25/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Orange guy lost. Orange guy fans disgruntledly talk about going boom boom. Orange guy bad assessment therefore justified.
That's rich, coming from the guy who has openly cheered on the Democrat's election fraud-enabled coup against Trump while openly talking shit against an entire American political class from your high horse position thousands of miles away in Europe.
What you don't seem to realize is that if your half-a-billion dead from nuclear war assessment comes to pass, that this war will be triggered by the Neocons who control Biden & Harris' puppet strings, not by Trump. War with Russia would never happen under Trump's watch.
Of course not. We would just surrender.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: psi]
#27107278 - 12/25/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lynnch said: Trump lost the election. By millions of votes. Then he tried to steal the election by filing frivolous lawsuits.. and lost again. 60 times and counting.
If you think it's 'fair game' to march out and murder your neighbors because you don't like how an election turned out, you're a piece of shit and you deserve everything that's coming to you.
No. Trump did, infact, win this election. Then they stopped counting in the middle of the night on election night when Trump had huge margins and just suddenly "found" hundreds of thousands of ballots with statistically impossible 90%+ voting rates for Biden at the last minute, which just so happened to be enough to swing the election back for Biden in every single major swing state simultaneously.
This election was stolen as fuck, and it's not even funny how blatant it was. Unfortunately there are many here who have their heads buried in the sand because they bought into the last 4 years of propaganda brainwashing that has turned millions of people into victims of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Sadly the last 4 years have proven that there are millions of people who lack the ability to think for themselves and will believe whatever fallacious Lies the media tells them so long as it makes them feel better.
Trump did still get 75 million votes, though, so clearly there is still a sizable percentage of people who have broken free from the propaganda. This means there is still hope for the country.
As for "murdering neighbors", nobody is talking about going out and killing their neighbors except for you. That is a very sick exaggeration on your part.
So he won the election before they were done counting the votes? 
They temporarily stopped counting so they could figure out how many fake votes they needed to miraculously "find" at the last minute to prevent Trump from winning re-election.
If you support this pathetic sham of a stolen election merely because you liked the outcome, then that makes you nothing more than a fool who doesn't give a flying fuck about the Democracy that was intended by our founding fathers, a Democracy which has now been stolen before our very eyes.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: koods]
#27107282 - 12/25/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Orange guy lost. Orange guy fans disgruntledly talk about going boom boom. Orange guy bad assessment therefore justified.
That's rich, coming from the guy who has openly cheered on the Democrat's election fraud-enabled coup against Trump while openly talking shit against an entire American political class from your high horse position thousands of miles away in Europe.
What you don't seem to realize is that if your half-a-billion dead from nuclear war assessment comes to pass, that this war will be triggered by the Neocons who control Biden & Harris' puppet strings, not by Trump. War with Russia would never happen under Trump's watch.
Of course not. We would just surrender.
Has the US "surrendered" to Russia over the past 4 years? Of course not.
Everytime you spout your pathetic propaganda it just makes me sick to my stomach.
The Neocons backing Biden/Harris are pushing hard for a war with Russia. Guess you don't care if you are literally vaporized into a pile of ash.
Avoiding war with Russia is vitally important for the future of the entire human race. It will take centuries to recover if nuclear war breaks out.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: feevers]
#27107297 - 12/25/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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feevers said: Every major media outlet was reporting what was obvious for months. Trump would get more in-person votes on the day of, Biden would get the bulk of mail-in and makes the comeback. It's almost like that's what happens when one candidate tells people not to vote by mail and the other encourages them to vote by mail.
Then it happens, and every trumpy acts like it's some unexpected front on democracy with no explanation.
But chopstick's inability to live in reality is obvious even just in this thread. He says no one is talking about killing their neighbors except Lynnch, yet Ovoid talked about it in direct terms. It's like he has brain worms that seem to gobble out any fragments ot his reality that he does not want to exist. There's no point debating someone who denies objective reality, it's a lost cause and he'll never realize it. He doesn't want to, reality is way less fun than fantasy land.
First of all, statistical irregularities >90% in favor of one candidate (in this case, Biden) is simply impossible to have occurred without voter fraud being present.
If you look at states where the election wasn't rigged, Biden only led Trump 60 - 40 in mail in voting on average. So for a vote dump to happen 95% (or more) in Biden's favor is impossible without fraud. I'm not so sure what is hard to understand about that.
As for your last point, I will admit that I didn't read this entire thread. However, this entire situation has been caused by the power-hungry psychopaths who literally decided to steal the election. All the rhetoric that is being thrown about is entirely a result of their actions. These people hate Trump so much and are so power obsessed that they have decided to literally deal a deathblow to our Democracy by stealing the election rather than let Trump serve another term.
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badchad
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: chopstick] 1
#27107312 - 12/25/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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First of all, statistical irregularities >90% in favor of one candidate (in this case, Biden) is simply impossible to have occurred without voter fraud being present. .
Why?
The polling was way off in 2016, it was off again in 2020. This was a completely unique election, in the middle of a pandemic, more mail-in ballots than ever. There is zero previous data to model off of, and there doesn't appear to be any rationale to support the statement. You cannot build statistical models off of an n=1.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: badchad]
#27107314 - 12/25/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The perfect storm of events to rig an election and get away with it.
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: badchad] 2
#27107319 - 12/25/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Democrats did better than republicans in the house, the senate was a wash and they won the presidency. There was nothing unusual about this election.
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badchad
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Re: How many people do you know that are banging the Civil War 2 drum? [Re: koods]
#27107334 - 12/25/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Democrats did better than republicans in the house, the senate was a wash and they won the presidency. There was nothing unusual about this election.
My point is there have been a total of 59 Presidential elections. One could (albeit arbitrarily) make the point that elections prior to 1900 have little resemblance or bearing to ones in 2020, because, well, times are different. Overall, one perspective is that there is very little data when it comes to modeling and/or predicting elections, so I'm cautious of assertions made on statistical validity.
I'm by no means a statistician, so I'm happy to be convinced. But generally, I'm not going to be persuaded about statistical methodologies by a Trumper with a GED that hasn't taken a statistics class.
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