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Buckomcdoogle
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Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination?
#27103325 - 12/23/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does it? or is it just another example of the left being flip flopping hypocrites when its convenient?
I'm not even an "anti vaxxor" and I'm definitely NOT pro life.
I just have ZER0 faith in the government pulling something like this off without royally fucking up out of incompetence or corruption.
It just seems wrong that the government might force people to take this vaccine that has had NO long term studies, and has also been rushed through at every turn as quickly as possible for political reasons.....
Either the individual has final say over their bodies or the government does, you can't have it both ways......
Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? If not, why does it apply to reproductive rights but not individual rights?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Buckomcdoogle] 1
#27103339 - 12/23/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't see any good reason for why it shouldn't.
There's the public health angle, sure, but it's not stopping people from, say, requiring proof of vaccination as a requirement. Like how you need to be vaccinated to go to school in most cases. Seems perfectly reasonable to me that way.
Of course, I think a simpler rule would be "don't be a dick to the people around you", but people really seem to have trouble with that one.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27103369 - 12/23/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Theres no law mandating it, just requirements if using public school, etc.
But yeah say you need to go to the hospital, when you get there, you sign off for consent of care, at which point you're agreeing to treatment, like if they need to administer antibiotics or a painkiller, etc. You can always refuse anything they try to administer you, but they're trying to help
Being skeptical about a new vaccine is healthy, imo.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: skOsH]
#27103382 - 12/23/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It better apply to it. Imagine the amount of violence that would take place if people were to be forced to take some brand new vaccine that bypassed a bunch of regulations and has who knows what kind of effects.
Youtube and other sites have been shutting down doctors that try to caution people about this vaccine too. This one series called "ask the experts" had a panel detailing the possible dangers and it was taken down faster than almost anything I've seen be deleted. Now the only "ask the experts" episodes are all pro vaccine. Some other panel I listened to, the doctors speaking were saying they're in contact with tens of thousands of others that say the same, and that they're getting threatened and fired etc for cautioning people too. If the vaccine is so effective for people who get it, what do these people pushing it care if others want to risk getting sick? Kinda creepy to me.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence]
#27103408 - 12/23/20 02:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody is going to force you to do it. But if you don't you won't be able to go to school or work for many employers. If you're self employed, it depends what you do. For instance, if you do home renovations, most people are not going to let you in their house.
It's up to you.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence]
#27103413 - 12/23/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: It better apply to it. Imagine the amount of violence that would take place if people were to be forced to take some brand new vaccine that bypassed a bunch of regulations and has who knows what kind of effects.
Youtube and other sites have been shutting down doctors that try to caution people about this vaccine too. This one series called "ask the experts" had a panel detailing the possible dangers and it was taken down faster than almost anything I've seen be deleted. Now the only "ask the experts" episodes are all pro vaccine. Some other panel I listened to, the doctors speaking were saying they're in contact with tens of thousands of others that say the same, and that they're getting threatened and fired etc for cautioning people too. If the vaccine is so effective for people who get it, what do these people pushing it care if others want to risk getting sick? Kinda creepy to me.
I can see that point of view. But I can also see YouTube learning how social media can spread and indoctrinate dangerous ideas. Like Facebook accidentally facilitating genocide. Stakes are high and YouTube is scared. No one knows what will happen with global vaccination. If YouTube funnels ideas towards pro-vaccine, more vaccinations occur. If they work, they win! If issues occur, then they can say, no one knew, we thought we were doing the right thing and there’s no legal liability. If they choose NOT to censor and shit hits the fan, huge financial loses and deaths will be on their conscience and put them at risk of large financial losses from reduced usage to new laws limiting their powers.
I wouldn’t use their censorship as a gauge for safety. I’d gauge safety by what happens... everything is creepy anymore lol 🙃
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence] 1
#27103495 - 12/23/20 04:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: It better apply to it. Imagine the amount of violence that would take place if people were to be forced to take some brand new vaccine that bypassed a bunch of regulations and has who knows what kind of effects.
Youtube and other sites have been shutting down doctors that try to caution people about this vaccine too. This one series called "ask the experts" had a panel detailing the possible dangers and it was taken down faster than almost anything I've seen be deleted. Now the only "ask the experts" episodes are all pro vaccine. Some other panel I listened to, the doctors speaking were saying they're in contact with tens of thousands of others that say the same, and that they're getting threatened and fired etc for cautioning people too. If the vaccine is so effective for people who get it, what do these people pushing it care if others want to risk getting sick? Kinda creepy to me.
It’s not creepy and no different than other mass inoculation efforts in the past. Mandatory vaccinations have a long history in the United States. There’s nothing special about this time. Mandatory vaccination is not unconstitutional. It’s settled law. People cannot be forced to get vaccinated, but they can be subject to fines until they do. They can be barred from participating in activities until they are vaccinated. They can be prohibited from using public transportation, or flying on airplanes, or enter buildings. They can be fired for not getting vaccinated.
There is something seriously sick in our culture that individuals feel that they have no obligations to society, or no desire to participate in any effort to benefit the greater good. This country is populated with a bunch of selfish assholes.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27103514 - 12/23/20 04:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't believe most people are scared enough about this shit to just not allow people near them without having gotten a vaccine. I do agree that the "elites" will try to, in a sense, force people by saying "welp, you can't live life normally then, sucks for you." I feel kinda bad for people who believe this virus is actually worse than the effects of the decisions made concerning it.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: koods] 2
#27103520 - 12/23/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't get vaccinated man! It's a plot by the chinese spies!!! !!!!!
Ok I can't in good conscience do that. No one is going to force you to get vaccinated. No one will force you to brush your teeth either, even though society would benefit and it's good for your health too.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Shroomple] 1
#27103525 - 12/23/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Youtube (Google) could use a little less power anyway. I'm not implying that the censorship is a gauge of the vaccine's danger, per se. The amount of censorship going on is dangerous in itself. Youtube is not responsible for thousands of doctors cautioning people about a vaccine. Neither are the other sites deleting those videos. Who is deciding which experts are right and which are wrong?
I don't believe for a second all this is happening naturally, this whole thing is 100% part of a bigger plan. You got the pope, the Rothschilds, multiple credit card companies, Rockefeller foundation, and the WEC all talking about using this to bring in global socialism. I don't trust this vaccine or the people pushing for us to get it one bit. You guys can go right ahead, but I already had covid and since I last checked a few weeks ago, the recontraction rate is something like 0.00000007%, based on the 4 reported cases out of 56,000,000 anyway. I make my money from home and nobody I do business with would give one damn about me not being vaccinated.
Knowing most of the people on this forum, I know some will say I'm nuts, others will say "global socialism sounds rad though", but if you want to at least hear me out, just ask some questions and I can answer either by myself, or post some videos to answer for me.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence]
#27103526 - 12/23/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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God damn how do people get this brainwashed?
You’ve absolutely lost it dude
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: koods]
#27103528 - 12/23/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You forgot George soros
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence] 1
#27103533 - 12/23/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said:
I don't believe for a second all this is happening naturally, this whole thing is 100% part of a bigger plan. You got the pope, the Rothschilds, multiple credit card companies, Rockefeller foundation, and the WEC all talking about using this to bring in global socialism. I don't trust this vaccine or the people pushing for us to get it one bit.
The idea a vaccine will bring about socialism is such a stupid American thing to say. WTF does a fucking vaccine shot have to do with socialism? I keep hearing the government wants to "control" you, no the government wants to get you back to work to pay your fucking taxes to make them rich.
Anywwoo....
I think I should have the right to know who is not vaccinated too, like you have a tattoo or "Scarlet Letter" type of public marking. I shouldn't have to stand next to unclean people at the bank or the grocery store. We should have rights too, I should have the right to not get your rona virus while you cough on everyone in public. As long as there is a public sphere I say fuck anti vaxers rights
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Eminence]
#27103542 - 12/23/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Eminence said:
I don't believe for a second all this is happening naturally, this whole thing is 100% part of a bigger plan. You got the pope, the Rothschilds, multiple credit card companies, Rockefeller foundation, and the WEC all talking about using this to bring in global socialism.
Knowing most of the people on this forum, I know some will say I'm nuts,
Go figure.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27103549 - 12/23/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Still hasn't said 'deep state'... c'mon dude, I know you want to
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: viraldrome]
#27103580 - 12/23/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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viraldrome said:
Quote:
Eminence said:
I don't believe for a second all this is happening naturally, this whole thing is 100% part of a bigger plan. You got the pope, the Rothschilds, multiple credit card companies, Rockefeller foundation, and the WEC all talking about using this to bring in global socialism. I don't trust this vaccine or the people pushing for us to get it one bit.
The idea a vaccine will bring about socialism is such a stupid American thing to say. WTF does a fucking vaccine shot have to do with socialism? I keep hearing the government wants to "control" you, no the government wants to get you back to work to pay your fucking taxes to make them rich.
Anywwoo....
I think I should have the right to know who is not vaccinated too, like you have a tattoo or "Scarlet Letter" type of public marking. I shouldn't have to stand next to unclean people at the bank or the grocery store. We should have rights too, I should have the right to not get your rona virus while you cough on everyone in public. As long as there is a public sphere I say fuck anti vaxers rights
So much stigmatism.
This is what 'they' want.
More divisions.
Divide and conquer.
99% survival rates yet it's so deadly causing much fear.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead] 2
#27103616 - 12/23/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Insurance deductibles should be doubled for those that chose not to get it, simply because they will be a higher financial strain on the already piss poor system.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: christopera]
#27103934 - 12/23/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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christopera said: Insurance deductibles should be doubled for those that chose not to get it, simply because they will be a higher financial strain on the already piss poor system.

Financial strain? How?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27103940 - 12/23/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You think spending a week in the hospital is free?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: koods]
#27103968 - 12/23/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HH doesn't believe that people go to the hospital for COVID. So it's pointless to entertain him.
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