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Dr. Delban
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27101081 - 12/21/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: There's a ton of research into psychic phenomena that's very valid, and just ignored.
The most recent I bumped into, and most promising, is based on quantum physics. It is really exciting to see development of such research. I am anticipating the day when we will no longer use terms "paranormal" or "supernatural" or "unidentified" and "unexplained"
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27101082 - 12/21/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Personally I'm not a fan of invoking spirits and definitely do not recommend this.
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27101643 - 12/21/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Loaded Shaman, what's a "TL;DR" chemical?
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: superreggie]
#27101807 - 12/21/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes is the answer.
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27101875 - 12/22/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dr. Delban said:
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Loaded Shaman said: There's a ton of research into psychic phenomena that's very valid, and just ignored.
The most recent I bumped into, and most promising, is based on quantum physics. It is really exciting to see development of such research. I am anticipating the day when we will no longer use terms "paranormal" or "supernatural" or "unidentified" and "unexplained"
Correct. All my journals are about subconscious anchoring via quantum mechanics. That's the real magic point. You've got it. Your subconscious is the seat of all manifestation if you can tap into it (Silva Mind Control is a fantastic, underrated book that tells you exactly how to practice this), you can start triggering massively beneficial synchronicity (coincidence) in chains like never before.
The link to that very book is in the post below this one!
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: wolf8312]
#27101877 - 12/22/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dr. Delban said: Personally I'm not a fan of invoking spirits and definitely do not recommend this.
I 100% advise against invoking.
Evoking, however, is infinitely safer, especially with more experience. It doesn't require drugs, and you're in complete control of yourself. HUGE difference. When in doubt, don't experiment with evoking because if you're not ready, you'll feed fear instead of excitement, and THAT'S when you start inviting all sorts of Astral BS into your field.
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superreggie said: Loaded Shaman, what's a "TL;DR" chemical?
It's a "Too Long, Didn't Read" summary of my wall of text, not a chemical, my friend! 
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Loaded Shaman said: Astral entities are abundant once you "tune in" via meditation, certain chemicals, and/or a combination of things.
What I find is that the average person is almost always usually able to invoke a non-physical entity with something as basic as a Ouija Board, which for all metaphysical intents and purposes is like picking up a ringing pay phone. I have seen some absolutely bat shit insane shit that I have no problem saying if I wasn't there myself, I wouldn't believe the same exact claims from someone else.
Trickster entities are also abundant and go after neophytes whom don't know any better. Plenty of people channel malevolent shit unintentionally, and it's like dealing with a really, really bad friend that will not get the fuck out if you don't know what you're doing!
Channeling in general is extremely dangerous. Invoking entities is extremely dangerous. Evoking (just popping into a meta space they occupy while you're tripping, and not letting them use you as a vessel for communication like channeling) them, on the other hand, is WAY safer.
TL;DR chemicals are arguably the safest and most controlled ways to contact entities. If you practice tuning your subconscious to this stuff, you can tap into it more regularly and easily. There's a ton of research into psychic phenomena that's very valid, and just ignored.
Very interesting. Since DMT and other psychedelic experiences I have always been fascinated in the Ouija board and topics related to demonology. I have a book by Aleister crowley on the topic and a lot of what he said certainly reminded me of my own dealings with demoniacal forces. Think I'll read that book now actually.
I don't know if I believe in it all exactly but am probably wary enough not to mess around with it, while being experienced enough myself to know that such things are very possible!
Have you ever tried invoking spirits yourself LS?
Know of any good books on the topic let me know.
Yes even more now that I'm actively practicing. This one right here is very, very scientific and the dude tells you how all his students contact a "spirit guide" (first level evocation lol). Zero drugs, all meditation level awareness and anchoring. You won't need drugs, lol. This shit works, is very real, and you have to have a very strong mind to basically start seeing shit you've been told isn't real, nor will most people believe you. That's not the point; start right here, everyone, interested in this stuff:
The Silva Mind Control Method
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27102251 - 12/22/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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wolf8312 said: Yes if I take shrooms or DMT and was alone in a room then it would be an almost certainty I would not only see entities but enter into their space of which they themselves consist. Once a person has 'broken through' tuning into their frequencies becomes almost automatic unless you are perhaps in company (and the dosage is low enough) and remain grounded. Does seem to require a large dose initially to break through that barrier though.
I also make a distinction between common entities and aliens and machines though. Even breaking through does not necessarily mean you will enter into hyperspace.
wolf8312 this cool to hear, I’ve only experienced entities on solo journeys and not even on very high doses but usually lemon tek’d mushrooms so they tend to hit hard and fast.
I always attribute this to my solo approach being like a meditation. If I’m in a group I’m usually the one suppling the mushrooms and therefore feel responsible for the people I’m with, plus there is usually more talking etc.
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27102326 - 12/22/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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wolf8312 said: Yes if I take shrooms or DMT and was alone in a room then it would be an almost certainty I would not only see entities but enter into their space of which they themselves consist. Once a person has 'broken through' tuning into their frequencies becomes almost automatic unless you are perhaps in company (and the dosage is low enough) and remain grounded. Does seem to require a large dose initially to break through that barrier though.
I also make a distinction between common entities and aliens and machines though. Even breaking through does not necessarily mean you will enter into hyperspace.
wolf8312 this cool to hear, I’ve only experienced entities on solo journeys and not even on very high doses but usually lemon tek’d mushrooms so they tend to hit hard and fast.
I always attribute this to my solo approach being like a meditation. If I’m in a group I’m usually the one suppling the mushrooms and therefore feel responsible for the people I’m with, plus there is usually more talking etc.
It is uncanny the difference being alone makes in regard to making contact with entities. Same with cannabis too for me these days.
If I am alone I go very deep, but if I was with others I would not only pull myself together but a process, which my being alone seems to facilitate, will not occur. It is as you say almost akin to meditation (hence the need for solitary silence) though there is no attempt on my part to tune in or actually meditate. It's as if they find me, and as if that interdimensional door or portal having been opened, will now always remain open.
I remember getting back once after a night out on mushrooms with a friend. Dose wasn't even high or rather the experience was waning at that point, but as soon as I lay down and climbed into bed, I started to see the low level entities and they and their space was emptied out into me and mine!
It wasn't always something I relished either because when one passes through into those realms ironically things often tend to get realer, and rather than just having a recreational drug experience you are tasked with the whole 'face and embrace' ordeal of letting go and surrendering to the experience. That's just the nature of spirits or demons.
I'm reading a book called Alistair Crowley and the Ouija board at the moment. Really honestly very interesting the parallels between the information in that book and the experiences I had with psychedelics. The author seems blatantly to so well understand the spirit realm and the manner in which what he calls 'elementals' behave.
Funny though, I would and will try DMT again one day, but I don't think I would try Ouija. As LS was saying, with something like DMT its as if you pass into that realm within a nonphysical avatar, and can be fucked with and frightened perhaps but never really touched or possessed physically.
But to invite a spirit into your realm just seems scarier somehow though I'm still not certain as to the validity these things.
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: wolf8312]
#27102473 - 12/22/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27102987 - 12/22/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ve wrote about this experience the day after but yea! I got ahold of some dmt and had my bro light it for 3 hits while I layer down. It was cool but I only got these acid like effects when I opened my eyes from only seeing fireworks when they were closed. I was drinking and thought “ let’s get some of those lsd effects.” I was standing up and hitting the banger heavy and out haling the smoke outside a window because it’s a strong powerful smell. I remember just hitting it and the smoke i exhaled just started doing this strange stuff. Kinda like when a jini comes out the bottle on Aladdin. Then boom! My room started growing into a jungle and I was so far taken back from it I tried to lean onto a tree. The tree wasn’t there! Atleast in the physical world and I fell hard onto the grown. This fall kinda knocked me back into my room and when I looked up at my bed a woman was sitting on it. She looked ancient but beautiful. Some type of Aztec myan godess. She had a fierce look but not harmful and I heard something like “this is what you wanted to trip hard.” “Here you go.” I was scared as hell looking at her. I think I disrespected the dmt. Also keep in mind I had my eyes open with this hard visual. I’ve been having bad trips on shrooms since. It really kinda messed me up
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Exstortion]
#27103309 - 12/22/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Machine elves.... So. Many. Machine elves!
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27103328 - 12/23/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't forget the self-dribbling gold-jeweled basketballs, that bounce into and out of your chest.
"Someone with an interest in the NBA might find fascinating...", lmao. I always loved that McKenna quote.
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Re: Have you seen entities while tripping? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27103434 - 12/23/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So can someone comment about how entities represent certain archetypes? I've heard an interpretation that the entities that people encounter while on psychedelics are actually representational of some sort of archetype in their life. Archetypes being, for example, the mother, the goddess, the jester, etc.
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From what I'm able to understand from my own research into esoteric and metaphysical literature (now spanning, jeez nearly 20 years), these archetypes are what your subconscious will communicate to you. The purpose being, supposedly, these are things your conscious mind can understand as something useful. Ultimately I've noticed where all metaphysics, science, ESP/paranormal even "magick" appears to all overlap is how the subconscious mind is integrated into the experience.
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