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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: koods] 1
#27104043 - 12/23/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: There is something seriously sick in our culture that individuals feel that they have no obligations to society, or no desire to participate in any effort to benefit the greater good. This country is populated with a bunch of selfish assholes.
This is why I'm okay with people not getting vaccinated, but also okay with unvaccinated people being banned from public life. If you want to be an individual who does individualistic things and not one of the brainwashed sheep, then you don't get to come to the grocery store, or the bar, or the school with the other sheep.
You wanna be an individual, figure it out on your own.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27104609 - 12/23/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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christopera said: HH doesn't believe that people go to the hospital for COVID. So it's pointless to entertain him.

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Kryptos said: This is why I'm okay with people not getting vaccinated, but also okay with unvaccinated people being banned from public life. If you want to be an individual who does individualistic things and not one of the brainwashed sheep, then you don't get to come to the grocery store, or the bar, or the school with the other sheep.
You wanna be an individual, figure it out on your own.
Banned from public life? For not getting a new vaccine? For a 'virus' with a 99% survival rate? How radical.
Do you yell at others to wear mask?
-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead] 1
#27104659 - 12/23/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: Banned from public life? For not getting a new vaccine? For a 'virus' with a 99% survival rate? How radical.
Do you yell at others to wear mask?
See, that's the thing. Getting vaccinated is part of "public life". It's like wearing pants. Or obeying traffic laws. There's a reason I keep my house at 75, and that's because as soon as I get home, my pants come off. I fucking hate wearing pants. But I wear pants for public life.
So yes, if you refuse to get vaccinated, then in my book, you're refusing to participate in "public life", and I don't see any issues with banning you from public life.
Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences of that choice.
I don;t yell at people that don;t wear masks. I refuse to interact with them or acknowledge their existence in any way, though. To me, they refuse to participate in public life, and I exclude them from mine.
EDIT: It goes farther than masks, even. There are plenty of valid choices that people make that result in me excluding them from my life. Gun owners are not welcome in my house. You can exercise your second amendment rights all you want on a public street, but if you try to come into my house with a gun, I will call the cops. My friends know this. One fot he people I game with is explicitly not allowed to come to my house because they tried to bring their gun once. I no longer invite them to parties, and if they show up, I tell them to leave. You have the first amendment right to yell racial slurs at people, but I'm not gonna stop someone from stomping your ass as a result.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27104710 - 12/23/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try my body my choice by taking out your dick on the subway and see how that goes
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27104756 - 12/23/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: Banned from public life? For not getting a new vaccine? For a 'virus' with a 99% survival rate? How radical.
Do you yell at others to wear mask?
See, that's the thing. Getting vaccinated is part of "public life". It's like wearing pants. Or obeying traffic laws. There's a reason I keep my house at 75, and that's because as soon as I get home, my pants come off. I fucking hate wearing pants. But I wear pants for public life.
So yes, if you refuse to get vaccinated, then in my book, you're refusing to participate in "public life", and I don't see any issues with banning you from public life.
Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences of that choice.
I don;t yell at people that don;t wear masks. I refuse to interact with them or acknowledge their existence in any way, though. To me, they refuse to participate in public life, and I exclude them from mine.
EDIT: It goes farther than masks, even. There are plenty of valid choices that people make that result in me excluding them from my life. Gun owners are not welcome in my house. You can exercise your second amendment rights all you want on a public street, but if you try to come into my house with a gun, I will call the cops. My friends know this. One fot he people I game with is explicitly not allowed to come to my house because they tried to bring their gun once. I no longer invite them to parties, and if they show up, I tell them to leave. You have the first amendment right to yell racial slurs at people, but I'm not gonna stop someone from stomping your ass as a result.
Why aren't flu shots mandatory? Should they be? There's annual influenza pandemic that kills many.
Traffic laws are broken every day. I speed, along with a majority of people who drive around me. No blinkers, crossing double white lines weaving in-out of HOV lane, tailing too close, etc, I see it everyday. I make a conscious effort to be a defensive driver, for my safety and those around me.
Knives are lethal, do you allow people in your home with a knife? Any in your kitchen?
If this were about public health, fast food would not be operating. Smoking would be illegal. Refined sugar would be banned. Etc.
Florida has been 100% operational capacity, no mask mandates, since late September. No vaccine, no 'explosion' of deaths or cases. People allowed to work and make money to buy food to better their health. No job = no money = no food, unless you want to depend on a government to feed you. Good luck with that.
California has had some of the strictest mask mandates, now lockdowns and 'cases' continue to surge.
Why?
-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27104863 - 12/23/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mostly because of covidiots.
And Florida is currently one of the deadliest places in the world for the year of 2020.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27104958 - 12/23/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kryptos said: Mostly because of covidiots.
And Florida is currently one of the deadliest places in the world for the year of 2020.


Florida has a bunch of old people too. Koods will say, the weather in Florida is fine. But not in L.A.?
Then there's NY.
Haven't seen these charts in a while.

Think a vaccine is going to help?
Contact tracing?

How about earlier treatment protocols?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27105010 - 12/23/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, all those things would help, if not for covidiots.
Unfortunately, the US has a critical mass of covidiots, which is why the US just set a national record for deadliest year ever, while places like New Zealand haven;t thought about covid ever since they banned travel from the US.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27105201 - 12/24/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sputnik anyone ?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: mycot]
#27105213 - 12/24/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, soviet communists won the space race.
Not like communists win everything, for example, capitalists (and slave labor) got you that iphone. That's better than space travel right?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27105223 - 12/24/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll try again given the nature of this thread. Sputnik vaccine anyone ?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: mycot]
#27105228 - 12/24/20 04:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Space vaccine sounds good to me.
Assuming I'm not first in line.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27105246 - 12/24/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, let me get this straight. If I catch a cold or flu, no problem, but if I catch Coronavirus 19 I'm a covidiot?

Tidbits.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: mycot]
#27105326 - 12/24/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycot said: I'll try again given the nature of this thread. Sputnik vaccine anyone ?
Only 200,000 have received the Russian vaccine. The numbers were projected to be much higher by this point. It's effectives has been gauged at 91.4%. They have now abandoned the double blind and are giving everyone the real thing.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27105875 - 12/24/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycot said: I'll try again given the nature of this thread. Sputnik vaccine anyone ?
Only 200,000 have received the Russian vaccine. The numbers were projected to be much higher by this point. It's effectives has been gauged at 91.4%. They have now abandoned the double blind and are giving everyone the real thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a new flu shot variant.
Russians aren't dumb. Chess is a popular game.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Kryptos]
#27106567 - 12/24/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The funny thing with these people ia they wont even try the whole self awareness and caring about other people thing for even say six months to try and stop this virus. They automatically start looking for reasons to cry about having to wer a mask or whatever.
Right now florida has 1.4 million cases recorded and climbing and new York is at some 890000. Thats because floridians refuse to social distance, etc. NY has 36000 deaths and florida has 20000. Probably going to go up. I'll bet that floridas numbers are way worse and being fudged too what with the governor trying to silence medical professionals.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#27106575 - 12/24/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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California just surpassed 2 million cases.
Heavy mask mandates and lockdowns.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27106579 - 12/24/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You think there arent antimaskers in calli? Just like NY whether you know it or not there are alot of right wingers in these states and they all like throwing a shit fit and getting other people sick.
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27106582 - 12/24/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like, really, do you think if a huge number of people arent complying that you can say masks and distancing dont help?
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Re: Does "my body my choice" apply to vaccination? [Re: HamHead]
#27106590 - 12/24/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: California just surpassed 2 million cases.
Heavy mask mandates and lockdowns.

California 35th out of 50 in cases per capita.
Guess who’s number one and two. North - and hamhead’s favorite state for covid best practices - South Dakota.
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