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Making Microdoses with Psil. Cyanescens (and niacin and lions mane) - looking for tips! and how to?!
#27102233 - 12/22/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey! Does any one have experience preparing microdoses with Cyanescens with other nootropics?
Any advice/tips would be appreciated. As cyanescens are stronger than most mushrooms used for microdosing, I want to figure out a good ratio.. I tried making a micro dose with 0.2 which was way too much.
I noticed online the ratio of active compounds seems to be:
Psilocybin = 1-10mg Lion’s Mane = 50 – 200 mg Niacin = 100 – 200 mgom
Is there a way I can guesstimate how much psilocybin may be active in the cyanescens I have to be able to better prepare the microdose. (is there a calculator somewhere? or formula)
Lastly, is there a formula I can use to combine all the ingredients in a 'perfect' ratio then proceed to just capping.
I have niacin, lions mane and psilocybe cyanescens that I want to work with! The niacin I have are 500mg
Thanks!
Edited by dehyd (12/23/20 09:23 AM)
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: dehyd]
#27102613 - 12/22/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Blend everything up that way your dose Will be consistent then try .2 grams
Edited by 99.99 (12/22/20 02:24 PM)
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: 99.99]
#27103753 - 12/23/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You'll probably need a 3 digit scale. I don't know about PS cyan but for me a good pan cyan MD is 0.030g. 0.035g it's noticeable and distracting... You need to test different doses until you find your sweet spot. Everybody is different.
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27103758 - 12/23/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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PS: ime a big dose from time to time gives better outcomes.
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: 99.99]
#27103774 - 12/23/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks, I was planning on making it as fine as possible..
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27103782 - 12/23/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya I wanted to find a general sweet spot while mixing it with lions mane and niacin
I suppose what I am really struggling with is how to put it together with the proper ratios?! I can't wrap my brain around it hahaha
If I were to grind up the mushroom, break up a 500mg niacin pills and then add lions mane.. how do I measure when putting together then put into pills?!
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: dehyd]
#27105314 - 12/24/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's simple math, you will need to calculate.
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: LittleBoard]
#27105648 - 12/24/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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help with the simple math please?!!?
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: dehyd]
#27107634 - 12/25/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
dehyd said: Is there a way I can guesstimate how much psilocybin may be active in the cyanescens I have to be able to better prepare the microdose. (is there a calculator somewhere? or formula) 
This link may help..
Psilocybin and psilocin levels in twenty species from seven genera of wild mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest, U.S.A
-------------------- 👁️ 🌊 why you are empty. Hunt for the habitat not the mushroom.
Edited by Icyurmt (12/25/20 04:43 PM)
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: Icyurmt]
#27118620 - 12/31/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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I wouldn’t put them all together. What little research I have found suggests fairly high doses of Lion’s Mane are needed. I am just beginning to look into this, however. I’ve seen suggested doses of LM active component in the 50-200mg range, which equates to 5-20grams of powdered LM fruit body. That’s much more than I can fit into a capsule. Also Stamets’ suggests taking the niacin 15-20 minutes after the LM/psilocybin dose. I am trying this myself by making capsule containing 500mg LM and 25mg Psilocybe cubensis powder. I take 4 of these for a total dose of 2000mg LM and 100mg cubensis. I follow this up with 500mg niacin about 20 minutes afterward. Your Ps cyanescens are more potent, so that dose would have to be different for you. If you figure out your dose I can help you with the math to make up caps.
I’m journaling my experiences, and have included some literature on this nootropic combo. It will be updated as I progress. Feel free to check it out.
Nootropic experiences
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Re: Making Microdoses with Psilocybe Cyanescens - looking for tips! [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#27118844 - 12/31/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Taken from the link I posted above, it looks like they analyzed 14 wild samples of cyanescens from the West Coast. The amounts of both psilocybin and psilocin that they were able to detect varied quite a bit amongst their specimens, all the way from a high of 16.8mg/g and a low of 1.5mg/g psilocybin, and a high of 9.6mg/g and low 0.6mg/g psilocin. That’s a pretty wide variation so you’re likely gonna have to do some estimating for your own fruits. The average for the samples in the above study are 10.03mg/g psilocybin and 2.95mg/g psilocin.
-------------------- 👁️ 🌊 why you are empty. Hunt for the habitat not the mushroom.
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