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Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook?
#27099393 - 12/20/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A little background...
I took a little time off from the hobby due to living in an apartment, but I am back in a house now and starting back up. Previously I followed bods teks for oats and coir, did some shoeboxes but going the unbodified tub route for starting back up now that I am in a house with some more room.
Anyway, I have a tfal 22 quart PC. Cooked up grains last night and filled up 10 quart jars to cook today. My PC manual said minimum 8 oz water in it, I put in 3 quarts per bods oat thread. Seemed to fill up to about half way on my jars, which is where I remembered it being a few years ago when I last did this.
I’m on a new gas stove, vs an electric stove before. Cranked it up on high, got steam, let it vent for 10 mins then started getting it up to 15 psi. Once it hit 15 psi, I reduced heat a bit - in between medium/high, this kept my pressure steady at 15. About 90 mins in, I noticed an odd smell so I went into the kitchen and pressure as at 14 psi. I went ahead and turned the heat off and let pressure go down, once it cooled down enough to open, confirmed - no water left.
So my question(s)
Fine at 90 mins? I’ve always done 120 before Should I recook, if so 30-60 or a full 120?
I don’t think I kept the temp too high, as when I lowered the temp to medium it went below 14 psi. So I’m guessing I need to add more water. How high on the jars is too high? Learning curve with this new gas stove!
Thanks guys, happy to be back here!
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: greenriverlodi]
#27099455 - 12/20/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That three quarts of water thing was specific to the Presto 23quart, your manual for your Tfal 22qt should tell you the requirements for liquid. I dunno though it's a pressure cooker not marketed as a pressure canner but your manual states you have a mark line where you can fill it to inside the cooker. Check that line and fill it with water to it I guess but..
Having said that you ran your unit dry while under pressure so according to the same manual it requires an inspection by T-Fal now or some shit. Generally running a PC dry under pressure fucks it good.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27099516 - 12/20/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The manual says it’s a pressure cooker/canner. It says “minimum 8 oz, refer to your specific cooking instructions for the recipe”, so nothing specific other than the min 8 oz. I don’t see a line, but I still have the jars in there cooling down, so I haven’t looked closely
The unit from an exterior perspective looks fine, lid looks good and nothing is deformed. I doubt it was out of water for long. I am not too concerned about getting it checked out. It’s not like I started it up with no water or let it running for a very long time.
What do you think about the cook time. Sufficient, recook or start over?
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: greenriverlodi]
#27100416 - 12/21/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bump!
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: greenriverlodi] 1
#27100479 - 12/21/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im almost certain i also read in my manual that u cannot run ur PC dry it warps and fucks it. I would get it inspected or get a new one just to be safe.. Exploding PC's result in less overall mush and that's bad enough on its own not to mention other very potential hazards that come with PC's exploding. You ever seen a video of it? Heres one I wouldn't risk it
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: Ababyphoenix] 2
#27100489 - 12/21/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello operator I'm looking for the pressure cooker inspector.
A warped PC wouldn't explode anyway it just doesn't sit on the stove level.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27100510 - 12/21/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: Hello operator I'm looking for the pressure cooker inspector.
A warped PC wouldn't explode anyway it just doesn't sit on the stove level.
T-Fal, the company that made OPs pressure cooker, that have people to inspect and warranty their pressure cookers have quite a few service centers. You know the ones they recommend you contact if you run your PC dry? The ones stated in the manual? The part in the manual that says to have your T-Fal PC inspected if you run it dry? You know that one?

Although you might have to pull your head out of your ass before you call for them to hear you, bod. Not that there's probably a large chance of it happening but when you bulge out cast aluminum like that you're weakening it through work hardening. While it's deforming the grain fucks itself.
Cheer up Mr. Cynicism.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27100514 - 12/21/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, so let's ignore the PC for a minute and say I got it inspected or a new one.
Would you trust the 90 mins, recook them or start over on the grains? Yes I realize grains are cheap, this is more of a time cost issue.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: greenriverlodi]
#27100522 - 12/21/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm only doing 90 minutes with WBS these days and that's doing fine. Not sure what grains you're using though. Elevation matters too in how much time you need.
Why not try your 90 minute cooked jars and see what happens? If it's a time cost issue and you figure out you save 30 minutes per PC run then fuck 'er up and keep doing 90 minutes.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27100534 - 12/21/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oats @ sea level.
My first inclination was to try it and see what happens, but I wanted a second opinion if anyone had experience and knew it was an absolute no go.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27100681 - 12/21/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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starbones said:
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bodhisatta said: Hello operator I'm looking for the pressure cooker inspector.
A warped PC wouldn't explode anyway it just doesn't sit on the stove level.
T-Fal, the company that made OPs pressure cooker, that have people to inspect and warranty their pressure cookers have quite a few service centers. You know the ones they recommend you contact if you run your PC dry? The ones stated in the manual? The part in the manual that says to have your T-Fal PC inspected if you run it dry? You know that one?

Although you might have to pull your head out of your ass before you call for them to hear you, bod. Not that there's probably a large chance of it happening but when you bulge out cast aluminum like that you're weakening it through work hardening. While it's deforming the grain fucks itself.
Cheer up Mr. Cynicism.
No ones dumb enough to pay for shipping and inspection on the shittiest brand of too small for mycology cookers t-fal.
Regardless the weakest point on the aluminum from faulty operation will hold longer than the blowout plug. Unless you clogged it
Plastic soda bottles hold 100+ psi. Granted it's not hot steam but you get the point
When old people call that number they just send them a new one
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27100694 - 12/21/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP, call that number and get a new pressure cooker apparently. Sound old when you do it, tell them about your grandchildren. Tell them about your support for the po-lice until they cave and give you free shit.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27100697 - 12/21/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Have you ever called customer service for low end products?
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27100759 - 12/21/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, they don't usually care and in my experience will e-mail you a prepaid shipping label to ship them the unit back in exchange for a new one. Sometimes they'll cross-ship so you're not out any downtime.
What, do you just toss everything out below a certain dollar amount? The T-fal 22qt is $140 CDN. If it was a factory defect yeah I'd be looking to have that warranty honored why not? What good is it to spend money on something and not have it?
That's akin to bootlicking the corporate entities that build such units. This case is different because OP is a fuck up. The whole inspection thing in the manual is ass-covering on their part anyway in case something does go wrong. The onus was on OP.
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Re: Pressure cooker ran out of water - recook? [Re: starbones]
#27100844 - 12/21/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tape a few coins to the weight, it will let less steam out, so it will be less likely to run dry. Or add some more water. You will have to turn the heat down further when you do this as it will hold more pressure.
I’d be more worried about blocking the vents and over pressure release valves. Rather than it being warped and exploding. Mines warped to fuck, if it explodes and I am still able to use a keyboard and a web browser I will let you know.
Edited by Dr.Sparkle (12/21/20 12:43 PM)
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