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..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems?
    #27100459 - 12/21/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So, only my last to batches of tubs have been a problem. Made a post recently about how I was thinking I was getting contam from my coir prep. But now idk. I was wondering if I was over hydrating my coir. But idk. Where I'm at now I'm worries if I have some wierd genetic problem......

So I was growing APEs. Actually I grew almost every albino I could get my hands on (kinda regret that honestly, for times sake but alot of knowledge came with it, potency and growth rates and conditions). But now I'm just at a fucking loss for word. So I only ever cloned the APE out of my albinos, to agar. Never cloned the leucistic cambodian, a++, or the other ones idk even at this point it was months ago now. But at some point I think I mixed some spawn with a B+ and APE.... And maybe even cloned a B+ off of that potential tub. Because now all of my spawn, that was made from agar, seems to be producing some albinos with it... And I'm worried that this potential competitions or maybe even the APE genetics like maybe slowly colonizing some parts of the grain slower and maybe even incompletely, where the sections the B+ growth is dominating is well under control, maybe leaving little spots within my grain, uncolonized? Lol I don't have a fucking clue. I know my grows were going good, before this new batch of agar, before I switched to improper pasteurization and sadly before I moved my damn room! Which I really wish I wasn't in the process of rearranging my grow, and making it bigger, but it really just adds to the pressure! Uhg!!! I'm Gunna post these pics of the albinos next to the b+, mind you all this spawn was inoculated with agar. I should probably get some new genetics?? Anyone in Oregon trying to do a trade/donations ? Just that the mail is super fucked rn and I kinda want to get a new strain going, a fast grower. I could make you a really happy camper probably. Any way. Wtf?? Is this a problem? Or am I just losing these rounds and need to get my shit together?

I'll put a couple pics up of my jars and agar even

Btw, how bad of an idea would it be to leave tubs on a cement floor, when it's cold outside? Think it matters?


And it's wierd, one tub is like all albino, it seems too dry. And one is like all b+ and there's some metabolites on that one ha. Also as you can see at least in one pic im missing a chunk of sub, if I see contam, especially before it spores out, I'll try and rip it out, completely. Thoughts on that? Ha thanks


AND, can I shake my spawn again after 100% to verify there is no contamination? Feel like I've heard this before


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100465 - 12/21/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100475 - 12/21/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100542 - 12/21/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

something in your conditions needs adjusting , looks like your not getting good lighting and may be on the dry side or your getting too much fresh air exchange, get yourself to a clone and go from there and get your tubs off the cement.
yes you can shake at 100


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: cronicr]
    #27100587 - 12/21/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ride on. Thanks man. Much love.


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: cronicr]
    #27100596 - 12/21/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You mean get to a clone like get some spores and start from scratch? Like not one of these guys?
Would it be worth trying to grow out a potential hybrid? One of them is actually kinda cool with a blue tip and red lower cap. I really have wanted a b+/APE. I was even reading a thread that might have been yours lol about crossing ape with a strain I can't remember but had "vigorous mycelial growth"..?


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100609 - 12/21/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That first picture. Why is a chunk of the substrate missing?


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100822 - 12/21/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Quantom Moksha said:
Also as you can see at least in one pic im missing a chunk of sub, if I see contam, especially before it spores out, I'll try and rip it out, completely. Thoughts on that? Ha thanks




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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: starbones]
    #27100830 - 12/21/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Also in pic 2,3,4 you can see pre spore trich if you look closely, that's kinda why I posted it also. I'm just confused why I'm getting contamination after pins... Like pretty much right after.


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: QM33]
    #27100882 - 12/21/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thoughts on that is by the time you see contamination it's normally running roughshod through your substrate. Especially things like trichoderma which can grow intertwined with your cubensis mycelium. Seeing it on the surface before the first flush has come in points to bad spawn nearly every time. Trich is a right bastard that way. If it's coming in while the first flush is maturing then you're going to get a reduced yield but some yield. If it came in before the pins or damn near alongside them experience has taught me, as has lessons from TCs here that it's a loss.

It attacks it, lives on it and eats it. Resulting in things like stunted growth, reduced to severely reduced yields, cubensis myc throwing hail mary mushrooms to try and fruit etc.


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Re: ..... Uhg. Genetics causing problems? [Re: starbones]
    #27100944 - 12/21/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ya I feel that, I'll usually throw them out if I have other tubs rn I don't ha.. uhg. Thanks bro. I think I'm going to start shaking my jars again after colonization and hope that will help weed out the badones


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