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OfflineNemo98
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Ordering ingredients question
    #27100072 - 12/20/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

When ordering mhrb or syrian rue should I not order them together I heard that you should avoid buying the ingredients together, should I not order large quantities?


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Nemo98]
    #27100100 - 12/20/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Are you trying to take oral DMT?  First off syrian rue or b. caapi isn't monitored at all unless you are ordering like an insane amount.  MHRB isn't monitored, but if they catch you ordering some they can absolutely charge you with DMT precursors.  It's happened before many times.  If you order smaller amount, obviously you run a lesser risk.  Personal amounts don't require much for multiple experiences.  If making DMT though I'd try and order a kilo at a time from very trusted people.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27100108 - 12/20/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I used to get syrian rue from a small local grocery store. I don’t know the ethnicity of the owners and I am not going to guess, but I want to say they were probably muslim. I really don’t know at all.

anyway they had it in little bags near the tea and spices, it’s called ‘esphand.’ that stuff was just like normal syrian rue I have ordered online, I am pretty sure I extracted harmine/harmaline from it once.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #27100451 - 12/21/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

In the wild west, it's do what thou want. I think I got 25 kilos last time.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Icon]
    #27100493 - 12/21/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

after getting slightly interested in why this grocery store carried syrian rue I did a little research, and I guess this isn’t an uncommon product in eastern europe and western asia. it’s an iranian/greek/syrian/spanish/(maybe) french thing I guess.

pretty interesting, it’s used like an incense... they burn it at weddings and it’s also a traditional abortifacient. they don’t use it as an entheogen at all.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27101819 - 12/21/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Is it just mhrb that you can be charged with? is there anything you can get that you can’t be charged with?


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Nemo98]
    #27102154 - 12/22/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

this may take some research but I am 99% sure neither syrian rue or any of its beta carbolines is illegal.

mhrb is a grey area... like dried poppy pods or san pedro cactus. it has legitimate uses other than extraction and consumption of the alkaloids it contains, such as ‘dye making.’ which is a bit ridiculous, why would anyone take on a DIY root-dye project? this means that ideally if you are to be charged with possession of mhrb, it would have to be clearly demonstrated that you are in the process of extracting the dmt and other alks (even if it’s just a quick cold water extract to drink the jurema tea, and not a full fledged ‘extraction’ using all those household chemicals, that still counts).

this is all theoretical, don’t go through life thinking the court system is fair in any way. if they want to fuck you over they will find a way. their whole game is threatening you enough so you take a plea deal anyway, who tf knows what this would look like in a real trial.

that said, if you are lucky enough to have found a source for mhrb, it is probably not being watched - and certainly not for whether you order it at the same time as syrian rue. you’ll probably (almost definitely) be fine, but that assurance isn’t gonna help you if you’re not. this is risk/reward territory.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Icon]
    #27102707 - 12/22/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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In the wild west, it's do what thou want. I think I got 25 kilos last time.




what does this even mean?  WW = d*rk webb?


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: hogstomper]
    #27102874 - 12/22/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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In the wild west, it's do what thou want. I think I got 25 kilos last time.




what does this even mean?  WW = d*rk webb?



WW = America. No dark web, my plug just emails me when it's dry season. They're an OG supplier and from what I've seen the past couple years, it's no holds barred. Perfect safety is never secure, but I think it's probably the least risky it's been in a decade.


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Icon]
    #27104786 - 12/23/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

They cant even open a package shipped from USA to USA unless they get a search warrent. If your ordering from outside the USA they can search it but if its from the USA you will be fine. I never got in trouble ordering anything but I did have the FBI show up about some lab glass and iodine from China. They seen my sudefed purchases once a month but they couldn't prove anything. I had a runny nose :wink:


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: OGshroomHead]
    #27104904 - 12/23/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:okthatsfunny:


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: OGshroomHead]
    #27104927 - 12/23/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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They cant even open a package shipped from USA to USA unless they get a search warrent. If your ordering from outside the USA they can search it but if its from the USA you will be fine. I never got in trouble ordering anything but I did have the FBI show up about some lab glass and iodine from China. They seen my sudefed purchases once a month but they couldn't prove anything. I had a runny nose :wink:




I agree, ordering from a market where you can find a US supplier specifically will reduce the overall risk of you getting snagged.

If the supplier is smart they will package and label as a similar product that’s not troublesome as well, unless you’re ordering dank weed it’s going to be unnoticed in the general surge of mail especially this time of year-

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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: OGshroomHead]
    #27104936 - 12/23/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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OGshroomHead said:
They cant even open a package shipped from USA to USA unless they get a search warrent. If your ordering from outside the USA they can search it but if its from the USA you will be fine. I never got in trouble ordering anything but I did have the FBI show up about some lab glass and iodine from China. They seen my sudefed purchases once a month but they couldn't prove anything. I had a runny nose :wink:




UPS and Fedex are 3rd party companies, if the cops wanna open your UPS package, they can. While it may not technically fit under what is legal it aint stopping any officer from saying their Dog hit on a package.

And if a UPS/Fedex employee deems a package suspicious they can open it. They give 0 fucks


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Re: Ordering ingredients question [Re: Demonic_Chronic] * 1
    #27105092 - 12/24/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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OGshroomHead said:
They cant even open a package shipped from USA to USA unless they get a search warrent. If your ordering from outside the USA they can search it but if its from the USA you will be fine. I never got in trouble ordering anything but I did have the FBI show up about some lab glass and iodine from China. They seen my sudefed purchases once a month but they couldn't prove anything. I had a runny nose :wink:




UPS and Fedex are 3rd party companies, if the cops wanna open your UPS package, they can. While it may not technically fit under what is legal it aint stopping any officer from saying their Dog hit on a package.

And if a UPS/Fedex employee deems a package suspicious they can open it. They give 0 fucks



I work for Fedex and there's no position where someone sus's the packages for inspection. There's just no time. As long as the drugs are packaged securely there's no dogs or x-rays or nerds with no life along the way to stop it. The only reason it would be inspected is if the label becomes unreadable or if the package bursts open on a conveyor. Put it in a shipping crate that can withstand a beating and digitally print the label and I can't foresee any issues.


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