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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: skOsH] * 1
    #27103335 - 12/23/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Just read that buried in the bill is a provision that would give a 10 year prison sentence to anyone that is illegally streamed content. Wonder which side came up with that provision? Seems extreme right and frankly bullshit to add to a covid19 relief Bill. Apparently Trump waited until they signed the damn thing to point out flaws some legit and some weird. Trump wants to do $2,000 per person allegedly and that's what the Democrats wanted to do all along don't worry stonewalled by Congress and the administration. So now we're in the position where after months and months of crucial time for businesses and Families financially has come and gone and people need help now. To know that some bullshit like 10 yrs prison for illegal streaming is beyond scummy politics.




Wow that is just ridiculous. I know the relief bill is a slap in the face but i didn't know about this




That would be Tillis, R-NC.

It's basically a giveaway to Hollywood and copyright trolls. Now the government can do their dirty work at taxpayer expense.

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Laughing at people dying is kind of messed up.




Yeah, well. When in Rome.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27103604 - 12/23/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

As I understand it, the copyright bill is for illegal for-profit streaming sites. For example, charging for access to a private Plex server. Also, sports streaming I suppose is covered. The problem is that these streams have operated outside the U.S. for like that last decade, so it won't change much. You'd have to be an idiot to run a stream like this out the US, the EU, etc.. There are however many places that simply don't care. Keep in mind, you aren't even legally allowed to rip a DVD in the U.S. as it breaks the DRM. Even if you own that DVD, you aren't allowed to rip the DVD and bypass the DRM.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: christopera]
    #27104024 - 12/23/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the law is fundamentally staying the same, but the enforcement mechanism is changing. Normally, the copyright holder has to go after copyright violators, but now the US government can do it on their behalf.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27104234 - 12/23/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Does this apply to piracy?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #27104289 - 12/23/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Americans’ top political issues:

1. healthcare
2. Copywritten media being streamed illegally for commercial profit (pursuant to DMCA)
3. Climate change


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27104304 - 12/23/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah fuck those people who earn their money doing theatre or comedy and have had to move online to eek out a living. If someone steals from them of course they should have to hunt down the thieves and send them a letter. You know, the same way it works if someone steals your car.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods]
    #27104313 - 12/23/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I’m sure the Upright Citizens Brigade lobby got that wording into the stimulus bill and not Disney and Sony lol


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27104349 - 12/23/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You have a problem with protecting copyrights, or do you just think people should be free to make money off of other people’s work?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods]
    #27104462 - 12/23/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think people who stream fortnite shouldn’t be charged with felonies for playing Juice WRLD in the background

Also it was more a comment about priorities, not the concept of intellectual property.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27104496 - 12/23/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well not everyone has your priorities

Seems like you’re just looking for something to be aggrieved over. It’s your brand.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: koods] * 2
    #27104513 - 12/23/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That’s very insightful.

I think sneaking a bunch of unrelated shit into a pandemic relief bill that lawmakers didn’t even get a chance to read is bad.

Just another niche opinion I have that’s not representative of every single person.

For posterity, here are voters’ top issues heading to the polls back in November, according to Pew Research:



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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27104554 - 12/23/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It's an interesting bill. Tillis claims it's "narrowly tailored", but as written, could apply to anyone that streams copyrighted material and makes money. Theoretically, having a copyrighted picture in the background of a youtube video could now fall into the category of felony. Plus, the copyright holder can't just let it slide, since the US government would be prosecuting it. Since under US copyright law, any original work is technically copyrighted as soon as it is made, I wonder if this means quoting someone else's shroomery post is now a felony? This definitely seems like a shot across the bow at Twitch, specifically, since the music industry has been mighty pissed about Twitch streamers using songs in their streams.

As far as pork legislature, I'm a bit confused as to why Tillis is bringing this up. NC doesn;t really have an arts scene, NC isn't Hollywood nor Atlanta.

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Tillis’ campaign committee and leadership received donations totaling out to well over $100,000 from PACs with ties to the Motion Picture Association, Sony Pictures, Universal Music Group, Comcast & NBC Universal, The Internet and Television Association, Salem Media Group, and Warner Music, among many others.




Oh, right.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27104604 - 12/23/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So basically what you all are saying is that I can still pirate music and movies as long as I'm not making a profit off of it?


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27104652 - 12/23/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No, that's still illegal. It's just that instead of dodging some MPAA lawyers, you're now dodging the US government and their fancy little NSA server farm.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Kryptos]
    #27104696 - 12/23/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ok well I've already downloaded everything I need honestly. Got some nice music, movies, software, etc.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27104703 - 12/23/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Just because you bought it once, doesn't mean you can keep using it. Licenses change.

For example, if you buy a CD 20 years ago, copy the music to your computer, and lose the CD, then technically you no longer have the right to listen to the music you copied from that CD, and if you play it, you're illegally pirating music.

Same with music that you, for example, buy off the Apple store, which is then removed from the store. You no longer have the legal right to listen to that music.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27104712 - 12/23/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, yeah, that's majorly illegal. Up to 250k+10 years per song.


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27104894 - 12/23/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Klobuchar calls Trump holding up coronavirus package for more stimulus an 'attack on every American'

Trump's remarks in the first 30 seconds of the video in the link above


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Re: After 9 months, Congress finally reaches a $900 billion covid relief... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27104969 - 12/23/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

And Pelosi said she'd do a deal for 2k for each person by Christmas eve because that's what they were asking all along


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