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Re: Psychedelics, time dilation, and relativity [Re: jgotti]
    #27107630 - 12/25/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't know what happens at the neuronal level, but at a high level, when you are tripping your brain is able to process information at a much greater rate than normal. Just as a rough example (I'm pulling these numbers out of thin air), you are able to process 10 minutes worth of information in 1 minute, which tricks your brain into believing 10 minutes have passed, when in reality only 1 minute has passed.

By the way, it has been shown that older people perceive time as passing more quickly than in younger people. It's similar to the above, in that it relates to how much information your brain is able to process in a given period of time. Here's an article that explains it:

Physics explains why time passes faster as you age.

https://qz.com/1516804/physics-explains-why-time-passes-faster-as-you-age/#:~:text=In%20human%20infants%2C%20those%20fixation,to%20be%20passing%20more%20slowly.



This is always what I had assumed, thanks for the link science up my assumptions man.  :thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelics, time dilation, and relativity [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27111935 - 12/28/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Trying not to get too far from the question in OP that was wanting more of a scientific answer I do want to bring up the point made early in Jim DeKorne’s book ‘Psychedelic Shamanism’ maybe entering a fourth dimension via a 90 degree turn that cannot physically happen in 3D space has to occurs inside the mind and time is interconnected in this.

I find it fascinating that in the Mixtec Mushroom Codex there is a symbol for “bemushroomed time” this special time expansion is necessary to enter the portal into the spirit world.


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Re: Psychedelics, time dilation, and relativity [Re: Northerner]
    #27113322 - 12/29/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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jgotti said:
I don't know what happens at the neuronal level, but at a high level, when you are tripping your brain is able to process information at a much greater rate than normal. Just as a rough example (I'm pulling these numbers out of thin air), you are able to process 10 minutes worth of information in 1 minute, which tricks your brain into believing 10 minutes have passed, when in reality only 1 minute has passed.

By the way, it has been shown that older people perceive time as passing more quickly than in younger people. It's similar to the above, in that it relates to how much information your brain is able to process in a given period of time. Here's an article that explains it:

Physics explains why time passes faster as you age.

https://qz.com/1516804/physics-explains-why-time-passes-faster-as-you-age/#:~:text=In%20human%20infants%2C%20those%20fixation,to%20be%20passing%20more%20slowly.



This is always what I had assumed, thanks for the link science up my assumptions man.  :thumbup:




I've always just assumed that each year means a smaller percentage relative to your age, so it's a "smaller slice", relatively speaking, and appears to pass quicker than slices of the same linear time frame.

Example: 1 year as a 5 year old is literally 1/5, or 20% of your existence, so a year feels like forever.

When you're 35 years old, that same span of time is only 1/35 (2.86% rounding up) of your existence, and thus, as Smash Mouth so wisely proclaimed, "The years start coming and they don't stop coming", lol.


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Re: Psychedelics, time dilation, and relativity [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27113378 - 12/29/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Just some thoughts:

The light from objects further away from you takes longer to get to you than from objects closer to you. The further you look, the further you go back in history since objects further away are older than ones closer to you. So when objects appear to be moving further away from you while you are on psychedelics, are you looking into the past? What would happen if the speed of light was slowed down so you could see it in slow motion?

While on psychedelics, your brain is more perceptive to the flow of data from the universe. It's basically like overclocking a cpu but only to a much greater extent. You are basically seeing and experiencing things how they actually are without the normal slow human filter. You're not "hallucinating" you're just becoming more perceptive to what's really there when you allow your brain to be more receptive of more data.

Time dilation. I don't believe that time actually exists. It's just a human concept. We live in a finite, not linear, universe. How is it that when I'm on a psychedelic, my perception of time completely slows down to a standstill as if I'm a planet slowly revolving around the sun? Sometimes I feel like I'm in space. So I think the psychedelic gets us in touch with outer space.

Relativity/quantum physics. Why do we feel like our consciousness is in different places at the same time while on psychedelics? Why do we feel as though we are the universe and we are everything and all? Why do we feel an interconnectedness to nature and the universe? Because of quantum physics. Every electron is in different places at the same time. WE are in different places at the same time, we are made of probability blobs. People who take higher doses of psychedelics "become" the universe.

Anyway, just some interesting things I think about.


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Re: Psychedelics, time dilation, and relativity [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27114429 - 12/29/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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working with a suitable schedule is better than "as long as possible" with several great drugs.

(though I concur with your enthusiasm - realistically less is more)

the thing about discovering your own path, is finding what your body and mind do well, then managing not to mess that up, while chasing your goals.




This speaks to me and although I’m already there for anyone that’s not don’t  overlook this or you’ll end up learning it the hard way safe tripping  :bow2:


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