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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100059 - 12/20/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember the Captain Planet theme, some of those lyrics you posted are from that. Dont remember the recycle song though
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100060 - 12/20/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I mean just check it out, recycled paper insulation is actually just about as good as any other kind when it comes to its R rating
https://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Recycled_Paper_Insulation
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100062 - 12/20/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had my house filled with cellulose. It works very well. Even in the coldest months our heating bills are quite low. In the summer months, our cooling costs are very reasonable too.
I always liked this;
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: christopera]
#27100065 - 12/20/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then there are things like this,

And I am sure we have all seen rivers of garbage, actual endless flowing rivers of garbage, flowing in to the ocean in these eastern countries.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100068 - 12/20/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Industrial waste into the water ways even in the US is crazy. There have been warnings about local fish in my parts for years
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: MorphinTime]
#27100070 - 12/20/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are definitely some issues in our country, most the time it is illegal dumping and we fine them.
Maybe it should be more than a fine, maybe it should be a death penalty I don't know what the answer is, but really there are just too many people and too many people at that being far too destructive.
Normally when people do something that imbalances nature, like think certain animals are cursed and cursing their town, such as cats and other animals and start just slaughtering them, nature finds a way to resolve the imbalance,
Like a bubonic plague.
Today we have covid, if it is natural then it is the natural order attempting to bring balance once again.
just as when atmospheric conditions become too blaw blaw blaw, there are systems that have formed to keep things in balance and we get a hurricane or typhoon etc to balance the energies again.
We view these things are gigantic tragedies, which I suppose they are but instead of being horrified by them it would make more sense to just accept them for what they are.
Nature solving problems. Sometimes you might not like how nature takes care of things.
Well it is just tough luck and too bad because its been doing its thing for billions of years throughout the universe.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100082 - 12/20/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I get that nature becomes balanced. But from the perspective of human longevity with respect to how we live now, it seems we would need everyone on the planet to get on board being mindful of how our lifestyles affect things. Maybe if we all agreed today we could ride out what we have a little longer, but it does seem that we'll have to adapt or maybe die if we can't since we aren't experienced in getting the population of the planet to agree on such things.
Regulating business is one thing but regulating the minds of humans is another. Humans industrialized and exploited, business isn't really a seperate entity, it's an enterprise of human minds. Not saying I have a solution to fix things, but I hope everyone doing their part buys us enough time to find a solution before major shitstorm level catastrophe and loss
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: MorphinTime]
#27100085 - 12/20/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's you being a reasonable human being, then there's these other people willing to make endless profit no matter the cost.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: MorphinTime]
#27100087 - 12/20/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not everyone will die, imagine if we didn't advance as far as we did as fast as we did recently, lets say we had just wood boats and were sailing all over the world, all of our STD's at that time were able to spread to every country on earth quite easily, but aids didn't exist back then or at least to our knowledge.
Then patient 0 happened for aids, now we were at a time that we were able to deal with it, with the science and medical tech to battle it within a few decades or what ever.
Now its very easy to survive it with treatment and we are very good at preventing its spread because people are aware,
but what if this happened before we advanced,
what would happen if aids was spreading out of control and no one even knew how it was spreading,
Would it wipe out all of humanity eventually?
No, it would just wipe out a fucking vast majority I would expect, but some people have the evolved immune system that can actually combat the virus,
Those people would live and spread their genes on and the virus would naturally either be eradicated or just be kind of in our species in an ebb and flow system, like magic johnson, however some people have the genetics and immune system that can actually defeat the aids virus all on its own, its rare, which is why so many people would die.
We now have the tech to combated the natural order of things as they have always been.
however we are a part of nature ourselves and everything we do no matter how dark, evil or what ever we as humans think anything is, it is all apart of the natural order, nuclear power is 100% natural so to speak in this regard, coal power, cars, rocket ships are all a product of nature though many of us do not view it as so, we seem to separate ourselves from nature, because of religions mostly.
Religions are apart of nature too everything is.
So what I am saying here is, enjoy the ride because nature is gonna do what is best for nature and nature seems to be trying to always develop more advanced minds so it can understand itself better.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberg [Re: viraldrome] 1
#27100095 - 12/20/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cry me a river.
You’re the one going out of your way to start shit, not me.
Not unlike Greta when she scowled at Trump.
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You should have a warning under your name so people know.
I have no idea why you guys are so butthurt, not unlike Greta Thunberg when she got upstaged by Trump.
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Your opinions are from straight from the spectrum.
After all the virtue signaling you’ve done you’re going to come at me like this? That is so fake.
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You are the way you are because of a disorder,
So what’s your excuse?
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Jesus dude thank god that's the reason.
Reason for what? I’m actually forced to respond in cordial manner, but it allows me the opportunity to let people like you show your ass.
Everybody knows all those virtue signals from you are worthless now.
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At least I can understand exactly where you are coming from,
not unless you’re on the spectrum.
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it's all in perspective now.
Ditto
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I should have clued in when it became apparent you have no sense of humor whatsoever.
LOL. Nice try.
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Now I know I talking to Rain Man,
What a lame insult. Do you not know anything about aspergers? It’s a lot more socially functional than counting toothpicks and cards. Talk about a dumb stereotypical thing to say.
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that changes things forever for me.
sarcasm detected.
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I look at you now not with contempt, but with pity.
judgmental and condescending, what a great human being you must be.
On topic.
I really feel that Greta is going to regret being used by her parents for their agenda in the next few years.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100107 - 12/20/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: Not everyone will die, imagine if we didn't advance as far as we did as fast as we did recently, lets say we had just wood boats and were sailing all over the world, all of our STD's at that time were able to spread to every country on earth quite easily, but aids didn't exist back then or at least to our knowledge.
Then patient 0 happened for aids, now we were at a time that we were able to deal with it, with the science and medical tech to battle it within a few decades or what ever.
Now its very easy to survive it with treatment and we are very good at preventing its spread because people are aware,
but what if this happened before we advanced,
what would happen if aids was spreading out of control and no one even knew how it was spreading,
Would it wipe out all of humanity eventually?
No, it would just wipe out a fucking vast majority I would expect, but some people have the evolved immune system that can actually combat the virus,
Those people would live and spread their genes on and the virus would naturally either be eradicated or just be kind of in our species in an ebb and flow system, like magic johnson, however some people have the genetics and immune system that can actually defeat the aids virus all on its own, its rare, which is why so many people would die.
We now have the tech to combated the natural order of things as they have always been.
however we are a part of nature ourselves and everything we do no matter how dark, evil or what ever we as humans think anything is, it is all apart of the natural order, nuclear power is 100% natural so to speak in this regard, coal power, cars, rocket ships are all a product of nature though many of us do not view it as so, we seem to separate ourselves from nature, because of religions mostly.
Religions are apart of nature too everything is.
So what I am saying here is, enjoy the ride because nature is gonna do what is best for nature and nature seems to be trying to always develop more advanced minds so it can understand itself better.
Nature just is, I don't think it's trying to do anything but the laws of physics means it follows a course we can learn to predict, model, and affect change to specific outcomes. I dont think nature necessarily is geared towards producing intelligence and natural selection so far has only done that in select instances on this particular planet.
I dont think AIDs would have wiped us out unchecked, but I understand where you were going. We do have the ability to affect change, but like I was saying we also all have to be in agreement for the most part because shit gets "political," and like christopera said there is profit about which to worry
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: christopera]
#27100122 - 12/20/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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christopera said: I'll also add, citizens can take responsibility for their waste and that's all fine and dandy, but it's a distraction perpetrated by the largest polluters in the world. Consumers are in fact a fraction of the problem, industry will have to be reformed if we are to right this ship. The recent push to eliminate plastic straws is a prime example. Industry loves to push environmental reform on citizens, meanwhile industry is hands down the largest polluter by several orders of magnitude. Anything involving a large boat is proof enough.
That sexy slut Greta doesn't stand a chance.
Absolutely. Aluminium and steel smelters burning coal and all the shit that leads to that point, crazy mofos cutting down the Amazon to plant palm oil and shit like this are part of our biggest concerns, so many heavy industry actions that cut so much deeper than any soda can we futilely try to recycle could repair.
Greta could not change the way it is if she had all the money of all the Thots in the world put together. She could be Queen of the Thots and the head of Greenpeace simultaneously and it's unlikely there'd be any real change stemming from her words or actions.
After all she called everyone to arms to hold these motherfuckers accountable, make a change, group together as people, yet this thread is probably one of the better outcomes from her speeches so far. At least there isn't anyone denying what she says as truth.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: MorphinTime]
#27100126 - 12/20/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe nature has a plan, maybe not in the way me and you could ever understand.
Here is a mathematical situation to ponder on, if time is infinite, and space is infinite, but space doesn't need to be infinite only time would need to be infinite for this,
but lets say things go on for infinity then that means there are infinite amounts of time to happen for infinite amount of possibilities to occur.
So if a stream of infinity lead to me being born and coming into existence and being conscious, then there is infinite amount of time for it to happen again, I might very well get a do over or there very well might actually be something beyond our life that we get to experience first hand.
That means there is a possibility that this life is just one step onto something more so I don't really know why we act like this particular life and making sure it goes on for ever or as long as possible, humans in general, their lives, their species and why we think it is just so important, other than it is what we can relate to.
There is a good chance there is more to it so we should all just be enjoying the ride but in stead of enjoying it we always get caught up in all these little things.
Take a look at this graph

This is the growth of the human population, it has grown exponentially and anything that goes up must come down.
There will be a major population correction, probably sooner than later and it isn't an apocalypses, it is just what you would expect with such a massive acceleration of growth at far to great of a rate.
heck most of our scientists agree its grown to fast and we need to slow it down or reduce it,
bill gates and all his big brains think vaccines and survival rates can somehow bring that number down by somehow lowering the birth rate and it very well might be true.
See we act in ways nature planned for us, like if we are dying a lot then we naturally apparently want to shit out extra extra kids so some can survive,
The people doing this didn't consciously think this, it was pre programmed into them.
Rich greedy billionaire garbage dumpers didn't grow up thinking oh I can't wait to do this one day, it is just in their nature,
Me, you we would most likely do the same as they did if we were put in their situation as we are pre programmed for most of these things.
Some of us learn to over ride our instincts normally through training in life guided by elders etc.
But there is going to be a lot of death or something soon, in the next 100 or so years.
That or a massive drop in human births but I doubt that, most likely death a lot of death,
Covid is nature getting a run up on it and we are trying to fight this step,
nature will ramp things up in one way or another, be it food shortages, disease, manic homicidal acts.
We all die eventually anyway, what does it matter if it is covid, cancer, a knife in my neck it all gets me to where I am going inevitably, i'd say the natural order of the universe has something in store for us for that inevitability, there is no doubt some reason existence exists and why consciousness exists.
Something is going on and no one knows what it is but we all find out eventually.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100160 - 12/20/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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All the human-related issues going on in nature (global warming, trash dumping everywhere, reefs getting fucked, oil spills, ice caps melting and sea levels rising, etc etc etc) are really setting our future up poorly. Nature does indeed try to rubber band effect back into equilibrium but that doesnt excuse the human race from the very impactful damages we are currently creating. The damage is provable on a grand scale
It's happening on a way larger scale than just recycling your plastics and you obviously already are aware of this budman. This kind of damage seems to just creating more complications socially and economically too. Greta is talking about this stuff and actually getting attention for it; I have yet to see why she is such shit for doing that
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: Psicomb] 1
#27100363 - 12/21/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So what in the fuck does stupid ass Greta Turnberg have to do with any of that? People gave her foundation the guy who promoted her that then cut her out it millions on millions. Wheres all that money? This whole thing is some eco scam by a very creative PR team that does nothing u morons. They even exploted a special needs child to do it. Disgusting. Nobody talks about that and if you say it people think your some retard asshole. Pot calling the kettle black. You people once again let scumbags con you out of money so you can act smug and arrogant and feel good about yourself thats all it is. Shows how much of a fuck people truly give about this issue.
This is one the only articles I can find as it seems the full story has been washed from the net https://www.thelocal.se/20190210/businessman-hits-back-at-greta-thunberg-eco-profiteer-charge
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Yeah, I agree. It turned from, hey this is good to complete shit. When she is in her twenties will wonder if she anything to say without publiists and media controlling her. And they will look for every last dime. In the meantime.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberg [Re: lowbrow]
#27100502 - 12/21/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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lowbrow said: Yup.
That was a shitty thing to say. Is that how you roll? Attack people when they open up?
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lowbrow said: Yup.
That was a shitty thing to say. Is that how you roll? Attack people when they open up?
Half your posts are complaints about people being mean to you. Can I suggest maybe the Internet isn’t for you?
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberg [Re: koods]
#27100520 - 12/21/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was shocked and considered it a most repugnant low blow even for someone like low brow
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberg [Re: viraldrome]
#27100577 - 12/21/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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lowbrow said: I’ve learned to compensate for mental shortcomings.
You mean you used to be worse than this?
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lowbrow said: Yup.
That was a shitty thing to say. Is that how you roll? Attack people when they open up?
Awe, it makes sense now. The Pol Pot avatar, the deep love for Trump and Pence, it was all caused by the food thing.
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Re: *Politely* Meet Miss Greta Thunberga [Re: budmanman]
#27100664 - 12/21/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: I wanted to post the recycle song but I can't find it, it was something like recycle recycle its the thing to do, something something something blaw blaw, looting and polluting is not the way, here is what captain planet has to say.
I am sure you are remembering it at this point,
Most of you watched this shit and are probably oh mer gerd big business is destroying the environment but aren't even doing your individual part,
and I gotta say, if over 50% of the population was doing what they could, not driving excessively, using alternative forms of transportation, turning their heat down a little, using a little less water and all those other things, getting their own solar going etc, things would actually have a significant impact, but no most expect the government to do things.
AS captain planet always said, the power is yours, but yall failed to step up.
everyone I know recycles, but that's beside the point. Most of that recylcing in my country isn't really recycled, and the impact of individual action is not enough to change course. Plastic straws are a drop in a bucket, a bucket filled by the consequences of corporate and political irresponsibility.
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