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Mach z 800 said: Like i said before what neeeds to be done
- mandatory chipping i think people should be chipped an the data will let them know if they came i to contact with covid or showing symptoms.
had to make strawmen because the actual arguments are too reasonable for you?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 2
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HamHead said:

All you sticking up for Gates.
Gates 'failing green revolution in Africa'
"Green revolution is locking African farmers into a system that is not designed for their benefit, but for Northern multinational corporations.
Billions of dollars spent promoting and subsidising commercial seeds and agrichemicals across Africa have failed to fulfill their promises to alleviate hunger and lift small-scale farmers out of poverty, according to a new white paper published by the Tufts University Global Development and Environment Institute.
African and German civil society organisations produced a report based on the research, “False Promises,” calling on governments to stop funding and subsidising the so-called “green revolution” and shift support to programs that help small-scale food producers, particularly women and youth, develop climate-resilient ecologically sustainable farming practices.
The research examines the Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA), a nonprofit launched by the Bill & Melinda Gates and Rockefeller foundations in 2006 with promises to double yields and incomes for 30 million farming households while cutting food insecurity in half in 20 African countries by 2020."
Quite the humanitarian.
Your logic is just terrible. The statement i quoted you on was just ridiculous. Like others have said I dint think you have any reading comprehension skills.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
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One of my neighbors just died from covid, whole family is in ruins atm. Same with my other 2 friends with 5 family members total dead
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My mom’s friend died yesterday
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
#27095075 - 12/17/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sorry my friend this is such a hard time for so many. Rest in peace and I hope your mom's friend can get through this emotionally.
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She's dead, so she'll be fine emotionally. It's his mom that might be troubled.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
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It was someone my mother played tennis against in tournaments around the world. These are all top ranked players in their age group, so this woman was in top physical shape. Got it from her husband who didn’t get very sick. She spent a month in the ICU before they pulled the plug.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
#27095115 - 12/17/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: She's dead, so she'll be fine emotionally. It's his mom that might be troubled.
Lol sorry i have a terrible headache meant to just say I hope your mom will be okay emotionally
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27094977#27094977

In this article, we explore the relationship between zinc, ionophores, antivirals, and their potential use in modern society.
Chloroquine is a zinc ionophore Jing Xue et al. PLoS One. 2014.
It's frustrating being banned and restricted after saying these things help people, vitamin C, D, zinc, zinc ionophore(s).. And then to see others pushing these things after coming around.
Ivermectin is an interesting one.
NIH may want to update their guidelines. Who's in charge over there at NIH?
"Recommendation The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (AIII)."
"Because serious COVID-19 may cause sepsis and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), the potential role of high doses of Vitamin C in ameliorating inflammation and vascular injury in patients with COVID-19 is being studied."
Ivermectin
Ivermectin is contraindicated in children under the age of five or those who weigh less than 15 kilograms (33 pounds),[35] and individuals with liver or kidney disease.[50] Ivermectin is secreted in very low concentration in breast milk.[51] It remains unclear if ivermectin is safe during pregnancy.
"The main concern is neurotoxicity, which in most mammalian species may manifest as central nervous system depression, and consequent ataxia, as might be expected from potentiation of inhibitory GABA-ergic synapses.
Since drugs that inhibit the enzyme CYP3A4 often also inhibit P-glycoprotein transport, the risk of increased absorption past the blood-brain barrier exists when ivermectin is administered along with other CYP3A4 inhibitors. These drugs include statins, HIV protease inhibitors, many calcium channel blockers, lidocaine, the benzodiazepines, and glucocorticoids such as dexamethasone.[53]
Pharmacodynamics Ivermectin and other avermectins (insecticides most frequently used in home-use ant baits) are macrocyclic lactones derived from the bacterium Streptomyces avermitilis. Ivermectin kills by interfering with nervous system and muscle function, in particular by enhancing inhibitory neurotransmission.
The drug binds to glutamate-gated chloride channel receptors (GluClRs) in the membranes of invertebrate nerve and muscle cells, causing increased permeability to chloride ions, resulting in cellular hyper-polarization, followed by paralysis and death.[3][55] GluClRs are invertebrate-specific members of the Cys-loop family of ligand-gated ion channels present in neurons and myocytes.
On 10 April 2020, the FDA issued guidance to not use veterinary-grade ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19 in humans."
Harm reduction??? Asante???
Moving on.
"Ivermectin inhibits replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2 - 2.8 µM, making it a possible candidate for COVID-19 drug repurposing research.[82][83] The doses used in cell culture would require 104 larger doses in humans based on this data, which does not look promising as an effective treatment for COVID-19.[84][85] Such high doses of ivermectin are not covered by the current human-use approvals of the drug and could be dangerous, as the likely antiviral mechanism of action is the suppression of a host cellular process,[85] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[86]
In November 2020 a meta-analysis found only weak evidence of benefit.
Apr 23, 2020, 5:40 AM In an interview with CNN published Sunday, Wojcicki said YouTube would be "removing information that is problematic" including "anything that is medically unsubstantiated."
For example, she said, content that claimed vitamin C or turmeric would cure people of COVID-19 would be "a violation of our policy" and removed accordingly.
She continued: "Anything that goes against WHO recommendations would be a violation of our policy and so remove is another really important part of our policy."
Wojcicki didn't go into further detail, and it isn't clear how rigorously YouTube is policing videos that might fall into the grey area of debating WHO's guidance.
For example, WHO has advised that masks should be worn by healthcare workers and not by healthy members of the public. But experts are split on this, and there are plenty of YouTube videos advising people on making and wearing their own masks.
Wojcicki acknowledged that YouTube had had to quickly update its policies in response to the virus, and the accompanying spread of misinformation."
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#27097039 - 12/19/20 03:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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For Christ sake, are you a Doctor? Do you have ANY medical training? Why are you giving medical advice?... why?
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 1
#27097046 - 12/19/20 04:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: NIH may want to update their guidelines. Who's in charge over there at NIH?
The arrogance is frightening.
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Stable Genius said: For Christ sake, are you a Doctor? Do you have ANY medical training? Why are you giving medical advice?... why?

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Stable Genius said:
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HamHead said: NIH may want to update their guidelines. Who's in charge over there at NIH?
The arrogance is frightening.
Yeah, it is frightening when people come on and discredit common sense vitamins early in a pandemic and then come around and say, it's all good now months later, after banning and censoring whistleblowers. Lol, NIH is taking its sweet time with Vitamin D I see, July, eh? Can we get some fucking updates from our national Institute of health, for christ sake?
"Recommendation There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19."
Now, if people still want to be skeptical about vitamin D, there is a lot of real world science that's been done, recently.
Why have these doctors at NIH not updated their treatment protocols, after months of data having been released?
The arrogance of Dr. Fauci is what's dangerous, obviously.
Then there's Bill Gates.
Talk about arrogance!!! Dude isn't a doctor yet he's on TV saying these things.
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Stable Genius said: For Christ sake, are you a Doctor? Do you have ANY medical training? Why are you giving medical advice?... why?

His reading comprehension is very poor, which causes him to misunderstand much of the material he reads. His posts have been an absolute dumpster fire of misinformation for months, much of it the type spread on antivaxx and qanon related websites.
He’s pretty much a laughing stock at this point.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#27097170 - 12/19/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The video of bill gates has bill offering 0 medical advice and just opinion of the pandemic progression. Ham thinks he has to be a medical doctor to have an opinion.
It's a complete inability to comprehend anything correctly
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods] 1
#27097173 - 12/19/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said:
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Stable Genius said: For Christ sake, are you a Doctor? Do you have ANY medical training? Why are you giving medical advice?... why?

His reading comprehension is very poor, which causes him to misunderstand much of the material he reads. His posts have been an absolute dumpster fire of misinformation for months, much of it the type spread on antivaxx and qanon related websites.
He’s pretty much a laughing stock at this point.
More insults.
Seems you can't comprehend basic vitamins like C and D. D, actually being a horomone.
Want to debate of my comprehension skills on vitamin D being a horomone? Lots to read on that subject, yet koods will discredit it as qanon anti-vaxx conspiracy.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
#27097176 - 12/19/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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No one here said vitamin D isn't a hormone. Another example of ham...
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Nice try bod, you just can't comprehend the fact that tomatoes are actually fruits. Tomatoes, pumpkins, cucumbers, eggplants, cucumbers, all fruits. Not vegetables like you probably think.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] 1
#27097190 - 12/19/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Covid-19: Evidence is lacking to support vitamin D’s role in treatment and prevention BMJ 17 December 2020 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4912
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