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I need Your Advice Please
#27095803 - 12/18/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello guys and girls.
I was just wondering if you could give me suggestions on what possible actions I should take please? I do have to keep this matter I'm facing confidential, so I want to share with you just enough so that you have the basics of my problem.
Ok, I currently volunteer and work (as a casual) for a charity here in Australia. So for my paid work, I have been given a certain task that from the time I started doing this task (nearly 2 years ago) the task was then always given to me. So one could conclude that that task was my position. What happened was just a few weeks ago, I was informed that the task that I always did, was being given to someone else (I would still get shifts but now someone else was getting shift too)(btw, it's a one person job). It concerned me so I went to one of the managers and asked them what was happening. The manager basically answers, that he wasn't happy with me and then he immediately tells me a whole bunch of issues that he had with me. So i didn't get the shift.
Not happy about what that manager said, I decided to go to the next higher up manager about the situation. Well, He basically said words to the effect that he wasn't happy with me too and it had been decided that they would put on another team member. Now here's the problem I have. The first manager I went to has to by his job requirements talk to me about issues as they arises. He didn't do this as he never came to me and spoke to me about any issues as they happened, but instead of telling me about them he told other people about them. Basically he didn't do his job.
Here's where things get worse. The next manager up has revealed that he was never made aware that things weren't first brought to my attention by the first manager. He (the next manager up) acted like the first manager had done his job properly and he (the next manager up) told me that that's why they decided to put someone else on. To make matters even worse, there has been gossip going around where I work, that I wasn't turning up for shifts (volunteering shifts mind you). This made not only the first manager start to get angry with me (which kept building up over time), but also my co-workers also believed (based on gossip & assumptions) that I wasn't turning up for shifts and hence they were getting angry with me too. The thing is, both my co-workers and first manager were flat out wrong in their assumptions about me, and like I said before, the second manager believe the first manager without question so he (next manager up) too ended up to the point where he wasn't happy with me either.
Now for the next part.
I wasn't happy with the second managers plans to resolve this issue, please remember, he believes everything the first manager has told him without question. So I went to the head office for their help on the matter. Long story short, the head office want to act like things never happened but will still make some positive changes (fuck that shit!!). They also said that the issues that the first manager had with me will not be dealt with because of the fact that 'i didn't have a clear manager over the last few months' (boo hoo hoo). They are actually saying to me that, "don't worry, let's forget this issue" and they think their doing me a favor (bullcrap!!!). The thing is, I want the issues (the ones that were never brought to my attention in the correct manner) to be dealt with because it will get some people in trouble, and I won't be one of them!
I get the feeling that they are just trying to cover their butts and avoid the fact that I have been treated in a pretty bad way. I actually got very depressed, anxious, angry, felt bullied and for the first time in quite some time started to have suicidal thoughts. I have depression and I've also been going through other crap outside of work and this issue has just made things worse. I don't know about were you live, but here in Australia it is my understanding that workplaces have by law a duty of care for all their employees. I truly feel that they (the charity that I'm at) has failed me in this regard.
In short, I have been punished for something that wasn't my fault and I now have a workplace that people treat me worse, basically making my experience at work now somewhat uncomfortable.
I have recently sent an email to someone in the head office about how I feel that they are not handling the situation in the right manner and also that I still haven't even received an apology for how this situation has made me feel and all the stress it has placed me under. The funny/sad things is, that in their latest reply, they say that if I feel I have been mistreated that I should raise the issue with the appropriate people. I DID do just that, and the people who I'm supposed to go to are trying to avoid/deny that I have been mistreated and the fact that the first manager by not doing his job as he is required to do has actually caused things to get so bad .
Lastly, it has been brought to my attention that within the last few months, the first manager (the one who all my problems started with) may have in fact broken the law concerning an incident that nearly could have caused someone's death. The problem is, do I pursue this or not? if it's was to be found that the first manager did the wrong thing, he would most likely get the sack, but the problem is that the charity would receive a huge fine too.
what do you think I should do?
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed] 1
#27095824 - 12/18/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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++++Time to find a new job - maybe something in the creative arts field.
++++When you get a vibe like this, things are likely to be negative until you find that exit sign. I wouldn't hold onto the feelings you're experiencing, nor would hold that position. There's other stuff out there. Good lcuk whatever you decide!
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I'm not sure about that last part concerning the manager potentially breaking the law in a different matter. Do you have proof of that?
For your case, it sounds like the record needs to be set straight in regards to: -The first manager didn't communicate and handle the issues with your performance correctly. -You never in fact missed any shifts (is there a shift record?) and who ever did start, believe and/or repeat those rumors are the ones to blame for negatively impacting your rapport with colleagues.
Now that you've gone to head office, I guess you'll have to ensure you thoroughly convey all of what happened and make sure they see your perspective. And then see what comes of it before deciding the next step.
In the mean time it doesn't hurt to have a backup plan, or explore all opportunities like the suggestions from CNS. Maybe you'd be glad to leave all those people behind and move on forward, I'm not sure. Nothing wrong with change, as it is an important part of life and can often bring with it, something better.
In any case, I hope for the best
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed] 1
#27095870 - 12/18/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I get the feeling that they are just trying to cover their butts and avoid the fact that I have been treated in a pretty bad way. I actually got very depressed, anxious, angry, felt bullied and for the first time in quite some time started to have suicidal thoughts. I have depression
They're probably trying to cover their tracks and that sucks but it's what you're working with so you have to deal with it. I'ts probably time to turn the page on this small part of your life and start anew. Who knows why they didn't like you, they could have felt threatened by HOW AWESOME YOU ARE, they could have wanted to give their friend the job etc. i hold the opinion that once people's perception of you change(based in reality or not) it's never going to be good again, so probably best to move on with no hard feelings. Fight those suicidal thoughts off because you are important and people love you. This is just a small speed bump on life's journey and you will find something better and more fulfilling.
You might wan't to check out a GOOD nascent iodine supplement. I have crippling anxiety, and depression and since i started taking a drop of iodine daily i sincerely feel less anxious and less insecure. read the part on iodine and the brain https://www.dougcookrd.com/iodine-and-mental-health-whats-the-connection/ Love and respect
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: Kyngwhatt]
#27097603 - 12/19/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Study The CNS said: ++++Time to find a new job - maybe something in the creative arts field.
++++When you get a vibe like this, things are likely to be negative until you find that exit sign. I wouldn't hold onto the feelings you're experiencing, nor would hold that position. There's other stuff out there. Good lcuk whatever you decide!
Hello Study The CNS  What really ticks me off is that Im being punished because of other people's incompetence and flat out them being cucking funts!!! Still, this is not the first time I have witnessed mankind in action .
Basically, the mistake I have made is that I had set my heart on things staying the way they have been since first getting the position and that's why it's been hard for me to accept. I'm not going to leave the place just yet as I volunteer mainly to get out of the house so that I'm not home depressed out of my brains. I did however recently think about (before this mess started), If I was settling for how things are and not challenging myself to greater things. Looks like the universe is telling me that i need to choose the latter.
Thank you for your reply and advice, Merry Christmas 
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ch0ppie said: I'm not sure about that last part concerning the manager potentially breaking the law in a different matter. Do you have proof of that?
For your case, it sounds like the record needs to be set straight in regards to: -The first manager didn't communicate and handle the issues with your performance correctly. -You never in fact missed any shifts (is there a shift record?) and who ever did start, believe and/or repeat those rumors are the ones to blame for negatively impacting your rapport with colleagues.
Now that you've gone to head office, I guess you'll have to ensure you thoroughly convey all of what happened and make sure they see your perspective. And then see what comes of it before deciding the next step.
In the mean time it doesn't hurt to have a backup plan, or explore all opportunities like the suggestions from CNS. Maybe you'd be glad to leave all those people behind and move on forward, I'm not sure. Nothing wrong with change, as it is an important part of life and can often bring with it, something better.
In any case, I hope for the best 
Hello ch0ppie 
As for proof of the incident, there is a person there that took photos of the aftermath and mentioned how they went home and wrote down what happen. This person is one of the two people that nearly got crushed by falling 250kg bales full of cloths that had been unsafely stacked up. I recently asked this person to give me a copy of the pictures and they said they are gonna think about it. Another avenue is that there are two cameras that should have caught it all. So long as the footage of the cameras doesn't get deleted after a short time, it should still be on the recordings. The thing is, do I pursue this in order to get the first manager fired (he has after all, caused me a lot of grief), but cause the charity to cop a huge fine and then gain bad publicity as well? It depends on how head office deal with this situation that will determine whether I pursue this.
As for the other things you mention.
I want these people to get spoken to and receive a written warning for what they did wrong because if they don't get pulled up for what they did, their likely going to do it again. Also, the next person who suffers at their hands might not have my inner "over my dead body attitude". Currently admin seem to not want this to happen so im going to make sure it does. As i mentioned to Study The CNS, I need to accept that this is life and that I need to adapt as I move forward. It's because of my mental issues, that I have found it harder then most to do so. But now I'm starting to accept this and I do believe that positive changes will happen even if my co-workers remain assholes.
Thank you for your reply and advice, Merry Christmas 
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I get the feeling that they are just trying to cover their butts and avoid the fact that I have been treated in a pretty bad way. I actually got very depressed, anxious, angry, felt bullied and for the first time in quite some time started to have suicidal thoughts. I have depression
They're probably trying to cover their tracks and that sucks but it's what you're working with so you have to deal with it. I'ts probably time to turn the page on this small part of your life and start anew. Who knows why they didn't like you, they could have felt threatened by HOW AWESOME YOU ARE, they could have wanted to give their friend the job etc. i hold the opinion that once people's perception of you change(based in reality or not) it's never going to be good again, so probably best to move on with no hard feelings. Fight those suicidal thoughts off because you are important and people love you. This is just a small speed bump on life's journey and you will find something better and more fulfilling.
You might wan't to check out a GOOD nascent iodine supplement. I have crippling anxiety, and depression and since i started taking a drop of iodine daily i sincerely feel less anxious and less insecure. read the part on iodine and the brain https://www.dougcookrd.com/iodine-and-mental-health-whats-the-connection/ Love and respect
Hello Kyngwhatt 
Thank you for your wise words. At the moment, even if they cut my shifts or flat out don't give me anymore, I still plan to stay. I don't care what two faced lying cowards shit heads think of me, so I'm just gonna keep going because it helps me atm to get out of the house and I know that the people we as a charity help do appreciate what we do. In fact recently, another person and I delivered a couch to a couples house. They were older but they were so happy to see us and were very grateful for our service (mind you, they paid for the couch!). So, I'm gonna stay for people like that. Also, the people at work that have shown their true colours are now on my Fuck You list, basically I want nothing to do with them and I will never talk to them again unless required to because we are working together.
As for the advice on nascent iodine supplement, I really do need to improve my health so I will try to look into it.
Thank you for your reply and advice, Merry Christmas
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed] 1
#27097683 - 12/19/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would move on mate, get the hell out of that place. Sounds toxic. I know you like helping with the charity, but there's maybe other community based things you could do?
You can always report the mofos to workplace health and safety, tell them everything in detail. Those guys are Nazis and will bring all sorts of pain on all sorts of levels. Get those pictures if you can though, that will really tack them on. Bet if they do an inspection there's 25 things they didn't realise that needed to be just so to be within the letter of Aussie safety laws. We're shockingly over-regulated here, fun times for any business once they start talking to them.
Suicide is a very permanent solution to a very temporary problem. Dismiss any thoughts like that immediately and go drink some water, eat a piece of fruit, put some nice music on, go outside and get some sunlight, anything. Just don't dwell. The devil is always in the overthinking of things. Don't fall into that trap. I know it can be hard, I've lived with depression too, but the solution never lies inside the problem.
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: Northerner]
#27099151 - 12/20/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello Northerner . Thanks for your post 
I'm not going to leave just yet for a few reasons,
1st: I need something to do and this place has helped me with that immensely. I could find other places, but before I leave, I would need to first look around for something else to replace this place. If and when I find something better, I'll happily go. But this is the main point, I need somewhere that I can go 5 days a week (or more), and for all the problems that this charity has, it does provide me with plenty to do, which helps with the depression.
2nd: The main source of my problem is a mainly a few select people and one or two management staff, but most people i know at the charity don't hate me, So why should I let some dog turds ruin my day in the park (if you catch my drift).
3rd: If all the good/nice/honest (not saying that's me) people go, then the bad guys win. Nah, I'm not running away.
4th: Most of the idiots are older then me by 15 years or more, so their time is coming to an end and I hope (and had hoped) to fill in some of those positions.
That being said, I am going to think about my future and while this is not how I wanted things to go, it has prompted me to think more about my future and the fact that I might have been settling for less, when there is maybe more.
Oh, and about suicide talk. I'll be honest guys, I'm not a fan of life, it's just not for me. Just got to ride this roller coaster to the end, then I'll jump for joy when I reach the end . Btw, depression sucks. It's like and old VCR that chews up tapes. That's what depression does, it chews up your life .
Well I think that should about wrap things up so I just want to say thank you to all for your advice and that I really appreciate it. I don't have many people to talk to so this is why I turned to you guys. I consider you my friends and yeah, that's about it. Sorry if I should have made this post in another area of this site, it's just that as I frequent the pub a lot so I wanted your PUBspective
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed]
#27099163 - 12/20/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi! Have you tried working at Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International? You may want to look into similar Non-Governmental Organizations. Maybe even a "Whistle-Blower" organization.
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed]
#27099165 - 12/20/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd get out of there, once a company decides they dont like you very much there's no repairing that. Most of the time you could make that company a millions dollars and they still wont like you and will shaft you remoreslessley. Id try drive for uber before working for such scum if there wasnt anything else
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed] 1
#27099449 - 12/20/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depression is treatable blessed, it's not pancreatic cancer. I know it's a dumb question, for this site, but have you tried mushrooms? They work wonders for me, really smash that reset button and alleviate all the low/nothing for at least a month afterwards.
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: Northerner]
#27099623 - 12/20/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: Northerner]
#27101988 - 12/22/20 04:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Study The CNS said: Hi! Have you tried working at Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International? You may want to look into similar Non-Governmental Organizations. Maybe even a "Whistle-Blower" organization.
Thanks for the suggestion, but nah, that wouldn't be for me.
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trees said: I'd get out of there, once a company decides they dont like you very much there's no repairing that. Most of the time you could make that company a millions dollars and they still wont like you and will shaft you remoreslessley. Id try drive for uber before working for such scum if there wasnt anything else
Hello trees 
I'm still deciding what I'm gonna do, I'll wait for the new year then I'll decide. I do agree with what you say though.
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While depression maybe treatable, I have found that it has made things crap overall, plus the ability to improve oneself is hindered by the illness itself which makes things hard. Maybe I just threw the towel in a long time ago and my crap life is because of my crap choices. I could see that being the case .
As for have I ever had Magic Mushrooms?

Here's one of my best finds (Psilocybe subaeruginosa)
 When I first started taking shrooms I noticed positive things/changes about them like you mentioned, but 10 years on with over indulgence has caused me to lose a lot of the magic. I'm now having a few years off them with the hope that my brain can reset and the magic/benefits can return.
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Btw, just an update. I've had some people come forward and say that they'll back me up because they have seen themselves how I was mistreated, so that's a good thing.
It's time to let this post of mine disappear off into the sunset so I won't reply anymore. Feeling better about thing compared to when I first made the first post.
Thanks again everyone. I hope you all have a great Christmas and New Years
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: blessed] 1
#27102027 - 12/22/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Glad to hear there's people on your side 
Have an epic Chrismas and New Year bud!
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: ch0ppie] 1
#27102955 - 12/22/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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And people wonder why I hate the job force so much and prefer collecting unemployment. This is why I hate jobs. I hate the fucking bullshit politics. If I'm not doing a job good enough, why can't a manager just fucking talk to me about it instead of playing these games like hiring someone else to do your job? So much for constructive communication.
You would be fucking amazed to find out what a huge difference just simply talking to somebody makes. People are fucking pussies. They can't take someone to the side and fucking talk to them about something.
If you aren't even getting paid for this then just walk out on the job when they least expect it and when they need you the most. That will teach them a lesson. And give them a big fuck you before you leave the door.
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#27104697 - 12/23/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey blessed I luv u dawg
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Re: I need Your Advice Please [Re: zZZz] 2
#27106755 - 12/25/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Learn what you can from it and move on.
This could be your opportunity for bigger and better things.
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#27109577 - 12/26/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It sounds like a lack of communication is to blame. Could you maybe do weekly or biweekly recaps of the work you did- noting your successes and also pointing out opportunities for improvement? Meet with the managers regularly to evaluate your performance so that any issues can be dealt with swiftly. Take control of the situation by making a plan. Maybe a periodic email review. That way you have documentation that you asked for feedback and took initiative to improve your work.
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