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InvisibleShroomerInTheRye
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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #27095426 - 12/18/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I work for a guy who invests in the University of Miami of Ohio project where they're harvesting psilocybin from e.coli bacteria. 
https://www.psybiolife.com


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Invisiblepsi
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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27095433 - 12/18/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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They are creating a synthetic psychedelic molecule with a shorter onset and shorter duration. basically just sounds like a research chemical that they are actually going to do research on.





I took "Foxy" (5-MeO-DIPT) just once but I thought it had a lot of potential in this way because of the shorter duration.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #27095443 - 12/18/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
I work for a guy who invests in the University of Miami of Ohio project where they're harvesting psilocybin from e.coli bacteria. 
https://www.psybiolife.com




yeast and bacteria are the future imo.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: psi]
    #27095444 - 12/18/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well I mean, I've always though the population at large could use some mind opening, it would help with the general distress and anxiety that is fucking our society rn.

Problem is, the average person is not emotionally equipped to earn some truths. Derealization and perspective are hard to swallow, especially if your current existence is so far from 'natural'.

This, from what I understand, is THERAPY, with psychedelics. Not recreational drugs. The goal is to guide people through difficult realizations, and uncomfortable truths.

If this became mainstream, imagine how far we could all collectively grow. Anyways, I am very happy about this happening. We might all be able to focus on what matters, and collectively benefit.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: Big_Dub]
    #27095452 - 12/18/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The new project they're trying to work on is harvesting DMT from e.coli, but as I understand, it's a lot harder to do and you don't get a whole lot of useable material.  I tried to explain the easy extracting process, but the CEO was like "what about hazardous waste disposal?  That will get expensive!"

Man....you've got lye in water with a touch of naphtha.  Add a little more fat and you've got soap.  No disposal required.  Turn the trash into cash.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #27095476 - 12/18/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
The new project they're trying to work on is harvesting DMT from e.coli, but as I understand, it's a lot harder to do and you don't get a whole lot of useable material.  I tried to explain the easy extracting process, but the CEO was like "what about hazardous waste disposal?  That will get expensive!"

Man....you've got lye in water with a touch of naphtha.  Add a little more fat and you've got soap.  No disposal required.  Turn the trash into cash.




From a pharmaceutical development perspective, extractions can be quite challenging to perform with the appropriate purity.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27095541 - 12/18/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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OutsideOfMyMind said:
They are creating a synthetic psychedelic molecule with a shorter onset and shorter duration. basically just sounds like a research chemical that they are actually going to do research on.

They're creating their own psychedelic because all the other ones are illegal right now.

I think it's bullshit and it undermines all the research being done on lsd and psilocybin to help get those legalized.

I wouldn't want to take a synthetic psychedelic that was designed by hipsters and new age fufu freaks.



they are discovering a new psychedelic that will hopefully have ideal characteristics for therapeutic use.

I dont think it undermines anything and dont see what problem you even really have with a new psychedelic.

imagine mescaline wasnt discovered in nature and was synthesized for thr first time just now. would you be pissed off that its getting more attention than shrooms and LSD? what about DMT?


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #27095556 - 12/18/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I think a shorter acting psychedelic makes a lot of sense in a therapy context.


Interestingly DMT was "invented" before it was discovered in nature. There are some other examples of this.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #27095782 - 12/18/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
The new project they're trying to work on is harvesting DMT from e.coli, but as I understand, it's a lot harder to do and you don't get a whole lot of useable material.  I tried to explain the easy extracting process, but the CEO was like "what about hazardous waste disposal?  That will get expensive!"

Man....you've got lye in water with a touch of naphtha.  Add a little more fat and you've got soap.  No disposal required.  Turn the trash into cash.




These are natural strains or genetically altered e-coli that ferment or metabolize cheaper feedstocks into more useful compounds.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: psi] * 1
    #27096008 - 12/18/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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psi said:
I think a shorter acting psychedelic makes a lot of sense in a therapy context.


Interestingly DMT was "invented" before it was discovered in nature. There are some other examples of this.



yeah I agree. there is a reason ive only done acid twice and shrooms many many times. you dont always want or have time for a 10+ hour trip.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #27096030 - 12/18/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:
I personally prefer LSD but the 10+ hr trip is a huge turn off.
Plus mushrooms are gross as hell to eat, esp if you are tryna munch down on 5 or more grams.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: Big_Dub]
    #27096658 - 12/18/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, from a totally chemical pharmacologic perspective, I can see how this would be better for a 2 or 3 hour session.

Personally I love LSD's slow, long beautifully gradual come up. It gives me time to acclimate to the psychedelic mindset. I wouldn't want to be peaking in just 45 minutes. 2 hours might be good to touch the surface of some inner issues but not long enough to really dig deep like with psilocybin or lsd.


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Re: Big Pharma getting into psychedelic's. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27097830 - 12/19/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

i usually take more to avoid the come up hahah


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