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Mhrb and syrian rue help
    #27092518 - 12/16/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I tried boiling 30g mhrb and 8g syrian rue and it didn't work I assumed I messed it up and decided to try it raw I initially ate 8g of syrian and 20g of mhrb didn't work, the next day I ate 15g syrian rue and 40g of mhrb also didn't work. Am I not eating enough? Is eating them raw not something I should do and instead focus on using heat? or is it that i just didn't get very good quality stuff? Also I ate the syrian rue 15 minutes before the mhrb.


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Nemo98]
    #27092590 - 12/16/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

was the bark and rue powdered? or whole? and for how long did they boil?


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: split_by_nine]
    #27092626 - 12/16/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The rue and bark were powdered for the tea, they were not when ate raw. Boiled 45 minutes to an hour


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Nemo98] * 1
    #27093540 - 12/17/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

40 grams good lord! Any idea how powerful that would have been had you had the proper materials?

Even 15 grams of raw rue should have guaranteed a pretty miserable time so somethings off here...

If you didn't feel anything then almost definitely get a new source. Start with 5 in future there is no hurry bud!


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: wolf8312]
    #27093547 - 12/17/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

that's waaaay too much rue seed for one thing. you only need 3 grams for full inhibition. also, that's not enough time for it to work - give it an hour.

i'm not sure how much bark is needed for tea though - seems a bit high to me, but i might be wrong


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Psion]
    #27093621 - 12/17/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

When using to much rue wouldn't it just make the trip stronger or does it mess with the bark?


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: wolf8312]
    #27093626 - 12/17/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So does the rue have noticeable effects on its own I read the effects weren't much. Also i purchased the rue from a different place then the bark so does that mean i should avoid both those places?


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Nemo98]
    #27093750 - 12/17/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If you didn't projectile vomit and didn't have fierce diarrhoea, then you rue seeds are bunk.

Syrian rue is a strong purgative, higher doses usually end in purges and shits. 15g is an insane ammount. :rolleyes:
5g is enough for the full experience, and even then you should get noticable open eye tracers and definitely feel sedated and off.

40g of mhrb is also like 10 times too much. 5 to 8 grams is a good solid dose already. 40g of bark contain roughly 600mg of dmt, or more.
I get completly floored and unable to open my eyes anymore due to the sheer firework that is going on in my mind, from as little as 75mg dmt.

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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Nemo98]
    #27094094 - 12/17/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Nemo98 said:
So does the rue have noticeable effects on its own I read the effects weren't much. Also i purchased the rue from a different place then the bark so does that mean i should avoid both those places?




I once did about 6-10 grams of rue. Was really not nice but it was definitely psychedelic/mind manifesting in its own fucked up way. It's not a nice thing to trip on and needs the synergy of DMT to fully utilize its truly incredible/therapeutic effects but yes definitely it is a powerful substance (just not a very pleasant one!) not to be underestimated.

My guess would be that the rue you bought is bunk. Hard to believe you would get bunk materials from 2 different places! But believe me the doses you are taking are really high. Mimosa root bark is intergalactic rocket fuel, and honestly with oral ingestion and an MAOI its very different to just smoking which will be over in a flash. You go in on boots at ground level as opposed to just blasting through on a rocket!

The reality of the experience when it actually hits you will be very different to the rose-tinted war stories you will probably regale people with later.


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: wolf8312]
    #27094154 - 12/17/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I did try to make a brew from 20g of MHRB, following the directions on the psychonaut wiki, and I basically immediately threw up as soon as I drank it, despite the egg white step. No trip. I successfully tripped on a chacruna brew which, though much more foul and acidic than my mimosa one (and including a larger dose of rue), I managed to keep down for around an hour.

Honestly, I'd like to know the secret to using MHRB successfully in brews too...


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: wolf8312]
    #27094215 - 12/17/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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wolf8312 said:
40 grams good lord! Any idea how powerful that would have been had you had the proper materials?

Even 15 grams of raw rue should have guaranteed a pretty miserable time so somethings off here...

If you didn't feel anything then almost definitely get a new source. Start with 5 in future there is no hurry bud!





For real tho...:crazy:


15g of rue is a massive dose, I'd even say that's a potentially dangerous dose to be taking. RIMAs are pretty safe, but 15g is a ton.

Even 3g of rue by itself should have you feeling a bit "stoned" in a way, 5g+ of rue should certainly have one quite altered.

Def sounds like you have some bunk material, something isn't right there.




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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: openmind]
    #27094800 - 12/17/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

seriously, 3 grams of seed is all you need. even 2.5 grams is often enough sometimes. any more than 3 grams and you're asking for an intimate time with your toilet on both ends.

it's often better to get the near pure harmine/harmaline HCL extract if you can anyways, simply because it's reliable dosage and you get rid of much of the nastier compounds. 160 mg of the 98%ish extract is enough for full inhibition or so, at least for me. i think some people prefer around 180 mg, though i find i get the visual tracers and a bit of nausea if i do that. still considerably less than with raw seed though.

and always remember, RIMAs like syrian rue play funny with other medications - be wary of other meds when using it. even things like caffeine and tylenol are affected. (caffeine is doubled to tripled in effect, tylenol can either be stronger or weaker in effect depending on when it's taken.) if you have a med you take, it's best to look on the internet and/or ask here to see if there's any interactions that might pose a risk - some of them can be dangerous or even deadly, due to the increased potency effect it can cause.

seriously though, don't go drinking any energy drinks anytime near an oral dmt trip if you can help it - too much caffeine. a little caffeine getting boosted won't be an issue, but a lot of it will have your heart racing like mad and at the least, cause you to have a less pleasant trip until the caffeine buzz wears down.


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: Psion]
    #27094984 - 12/17/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes sorry when I said start with 5 I meant mimosa. No more than 3 grams of rue (water extraction in my experience. Or 1.5 to 2 grams raw. Very interesting how messing with the ratios can alter the experience dramatically. A heavy Rue light DMT can be very different to a heavy DMT light(er) rue experience, and it takes some tinkering to find the perfect balance. That said (as others said) I found even 3 grams of rue to be too much. Lot of distracting side effects too!

I liked to do the full spectrum plant materials myself. Extracts that I bought/made activated the DMT fine but I couldn't ever feel the rue itself. For me the Rue is at least as important, if not more important, than the DMT itself for therapeutic benefits though it's much harder work. Not sure if that is the same for everyone with those extracts. I got mine in one of those little droppers.


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Re: Mhrb and syrian rue help [Re: wolf8312]
    #27095091 - 12/17/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

fair enough, i'm 230 lb so i might simply need more rue for inhibition or something. or maybe it's because i typically eat one big meal a day, so my stomach is bigger from holding so much food at a time and needs more rue to coat it...? hmm.... :lol:

personally i never found much of worth to the rue experience vs just harmine myself. never noticed any real difference, other than the unpleasant bleghs, and i don't find that something to be of value, lol. just the extract lets me focus on the trip itself.


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