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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27094058 - 12/17/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

As someone who thinks taking over the decaying corpse of the Democratic Party is a major objective for any progressive force in this country, I’m all for Biden doing a compete 180 on race issues. And when he actually does something substantive about those issues, or even fucking talks about doing it, I’ll be the first to give him credit.

But I’m not gonna judge Joe Biden on how I interpret he might have a change of heart and follow through on campaign promises, I’m gonna judge Joe Biden on the things he actually does, and has done.

For example, Congresswoman Marcia Fudge lamented the “token” cabinet positions of Democratic administrations, and how sticking a black person at HUD is usually the route taken. “We need black leaders in positions other than just HUD,” she said. She fought for farmers in the Farm Bill and is more than qualified to be head of the USDA. So Biden nominates her for HUD anyway, and puts a guy at USDA who got rid of a black leader, something the head of the NAACP mentions to Biden on the leaked audio call, explaining that nominating this man would anger black Georgian farmers and put the runoff races in jeopardy.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27094064 - 12/17/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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He hasn't fucked up though.  He hasn't been a policymaker for a long, long time.  When he was a senator, you were a kid who hadn't even joined this site yet.  How much have you changed since then?




Biden was last a Senator in 2007, when he was 65.

How much ideological growth do you think people undergo between the ages of 65 and 78? His brain is decaying in real time dude he’s not gonna suddenly pick up a Mandela book and see the light. Oh yeah that reminds me he keeps telling a lie about participating in pro-Mandela sit ins lol. To whatever extent Biden’s brain process relevant information, it’s to keep what he actually thinks in check. His handlers and advisers will continue to sculpt his public image as the cool ice cream eating corvette driving Obama sidekick.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094074 - 12/17/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's just like your opinion, man.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094095 - 12/17/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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I honestly don’t even remember what was discussed here before the run up to 2016.




"Rise of the far-right in France and Europe"  :lol:


I should go and update my thread with the 'looking forward' part now - your post in that thread deserves a response too. I'm spending more time these days playing the blues harp than writing words but I'm hoping that will change now the The solstice is upon us.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27094099 - 12/17/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

lol that was the first thread I thought of, but I’m lumping that in with the whole “brexit will save the white race” run-up to 2016 stuff.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27094103 - 12/17/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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That's just like your opinion, man.





Watching you defend Biden is hilarious.

I think we all know he's a massive piece of utter human garbage, he just has some temporary fan-boys because he isn't Trump.

That illusion will fade quickly after he (maybe) takes office.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: chopstick]
    #27094120 - 12/17/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Biden is still proud and has no regrets for his 1994 crime bill that still destroys minority communities across the US to this day, but he's still not as racist as he used to be.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: qman]
    #27094123 - 12/17/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Incremental change in the face of ever-worsening catastrophes is clearly the model going forward. It’s got us this far!


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: qman]
    #27094136 - 12/17/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Biden is still proud and has no regrets for his 1994 crime bill that still destroys minority communities across the US to this day,



That's purely false, though.  Biden has publicly stated, many times, how he regrets that bill and its effects on the black community.  Why do you have to make shit up?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-says-it-was-a-mistake-to-support-1994-crime-bill


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27094151 - 12/17/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I for one can take solace in the hope that Biden goes on TV in 26 years to apologize for his presidency.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27094158 - 12/17/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

You think that when he worked on that bill, his intention was to jail more people of color?  If so, back that up with something.  Laws have unintended consequences all the time, and there is a learning curve.  He and many others made that mistake at that time.  If, however, you want to paint that as part of some racist agenda, then you're going to need more than, "look at how that turned out."


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27094161 - 12/17/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Look: we're in a viral pandemic.  The current President doesn't believe in science (when it doesn't favor what he wants, which is the case with the pandemic) and look where we are: more Americans are dying every day from COVID19 than the entire of 9/11... The new incoming President believes in science; don't you see how much better our country (USA) is looking now?!?!  I find it absolutely apalling that any of you are making fun of Biden given the circumstances we find ourselves in I mentioned above.  Maybe it's just your way of dealing with the pandemic, but open your eyes!  Many Americans lives are going to be saved because of Biden winning.  Cut him a little bit of slack for that, maybe, no?


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #27094166 - 12/17/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Ecstatic, in particular, just likes to talk shit about every politician that isn't his ideal.  Pretty much anyone but Bernie is garbage to him.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #27094177 - 12/17/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well, to that I say this: I voted for Bernie in the race for the Democratic presidential candidate.  Biden was in my bottom 3 picks for all of the Democratic candidates.  But still, Biden believes in science, which is what we need in a leader during a pandemic, so I think we're looking okay.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #27094198 - 12/17/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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You think that when he worked on that bill, his intention was to jail more people of color?  If so, back that up with something.  Laws have unintended consequences all the time, and there is a learning curve.  He and many others made that mistake at that time.  If, however, you want to paint that as part of some racist agenda, then you're going to need more than, "look at how that turned out."




Yes I think that was his intention. He talked about his worries of his children growing up in a racial jungle on the senate floor for fucks sake. He eulogized Strom Thurmond.

Regardless of whether it was his intention or not, that was the intention of the architects of the bill. Biden got put in the Senate by the banks, and he was useful to them. Maybe he didn’t deliberately set off an explosion of mass incarceration, he just facilitated it. Who gives a fuck either way what his intentions were. The idea that he’s just some empty vessel there to rubber stamp the corporate agenda isn’t as comforting as you think it is.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27094202 - 12/17/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Ecstatic, in particular, just likes to talk shit about every politician that isn't his ideal.  Pretty much anyone but Bernie is garbage to him.




Politicians aren’t supposed to be your friend. They’re tools to be used. Bernie, recently, has been the most useful tool, so he earns less condemnation from me.

It’s not that I set the bar unreasonably high, it’s that our politicians are unreasonably corrupt. The system is designed for them to be.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #27094207 - 12/17/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, to that I say this: I voted for Bernie in the race for the Democratic presidential candidate.  Biden was in my bottom 3 picks for all of the Democratic candidates.  But still, Biden believes in science, which is what we need in a leader during a pandemic, so I think we're looking okay.




Not the science on fracking. Just the science that makes him look superior without having to actually do anything.

“Wear masks.” Wow yeah my dick is so hard rn he’s practically Isaac Newton.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: STPLSD25]
    #27094212 - 12/17/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Trump lost the Election... Period! His crazy ass supporters can whine that Biden is "stealing the election" all they want, the truth of the matter is Donald Trump is widely unpopular because of his own actions. He would be wise to fade quietly into the background, and not leave kicking and screaming which will end badly for everyone.





Your side has been calling him a Nazi for 4 fucking years. What's different now? Now its just a Dictator???

You won so enjoy the win and stop focusing on Trump for fucks sake!!!


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: PotDaddy]
    #27094216 - 12/17/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Your side has been calling him a Nazi for 4 fucking years. What's different now? Now its just a Dictator???

You won so enjoy the win and stop focusing on Trump for fucks sake!!!





Because it's true.  We can't ignore a person in that type of position who doesn't denounce white supremacy when asked multiple times over a span of months/years. 

Normally, yes, I would love to ignore the previous president if they are a Republican, but in this case we need to take legal action against Trump.  He deserves it and more for the horrid he has put the USA through the last four years.  He's a criminal.


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Re: Trump will be widely viewed as a Dictator if/when he tries to use the Supreme Court to win. [Re: PotDaddy]
    #27094218 - 12/17/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

As soon as he concedes or leaves the whitehouse


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