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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Lynnch]
    #27103388 - 12/23/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yea.. not being able to even see what you're getting cuz it's all prepackaged is kinda a bummer..
But, having been a budtender, I bet it's nice to not have every single person all day ask for an extra point every time you're weighing out :lol:

I like the legal shop near me. 30% tax (sales+state+local) is insane, but $20 eighths are awesome.



I learned that if I found the really really good dispensaries and went there and always had the same budtenders helping me they would always hook me up fat with an extra point or two. but you need to create a good rapport like be nice to them and talk to them and be chill with them because any random budtender would not just hook you up with an extra point or two.

You can't blame people though. I mean who here has never had a dealer that hooked them up with an extra point or two at some point in their lives? so they sort of have the assumption that maybe you can get away with hooking them up a little fat?


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27103391 - 12/23/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Or be cute :gethigh:

The only thing that really annoyed me was the dude who always asked for extra... and for me to leave it out of the baggie.
Like, dude, you come here multiple times a day, I know you're selling it out the back door, but shit don't make it that obvious. :lol:


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Lynnch]
    #27103426 - 12/23/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I hated when they would give me exactly .000 of a gram. A couple times they would be fucking literally sitting there picking off the tiniest pieces of trim leaf to make it read to exactly 1.000 or 3.500 or whatever.000 grams. Like fuck just give me the whole nugg. Taking their sweet ass time to pick off a fucking milligram or fucking microgram. Jesus Christ.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27103465 - 12/23/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yea that's lame, 'specially cuz there is likely a stem in there that weighs twice as much.
But that is the sign of the corporate transition...  Our shop got bought out.. moved to a new location. At the end of my shift I rolled up a joint out of the bit of shake and scrap left over from the day -common practice under the old management. I got fired the next day.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Lynnch]
    #27103904 - 12/23/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's what's kinda got me sad about the upcoming legalization here in Mexico. The law says it's supposed to help rural farmers but they require a tracking chain from seed to bag and there's no way some rural farmer who makes 5 USD a day is going to be able to pay that setup. Hopefully it'll change, since there was another extension on the time it'll take to pass the bill to supposedly iron out more details.

TBH I think US and Canadian companies are gonna swoop in and take up most of the market with cheap but and once they kill off most of the competition, lower prices and after they've killed off competition, lower quality.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Lynnch]
    #27104050 - 12/23/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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$20 eighths are awesome.



I was getting $25 eighths from a buddy who always had dynamite bud. I'd get paid, pick up a case (24 pack) of Old Mill, swing over and pick up a half ounce for $80, go home and pack my dugout to keep in my pocket, then head up to the bar. Life was beautiful at that time.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Lynnch]
    #27104157 - 12/23/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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....I hate that weed has been commodified so greatly because a lot of love has been lost. I like it being legal but there's so much GMO crap going around, not to mention the prices...





I am not aware of any cannabis strains that are considered GMO/genetically modified.

I'm pretty certain all strains of cannabis these days are the result of breeding/crossing various genetics, and not actually the result of tinkering with the genetics/code directly.

Unless you're talking specifically about the strain "GMO" (which is short for "Garlic, Mushroom, Onion" ...It's a cross between Chem Dawg & GSC).

But I do hear what you're getting at and where you're coming from....The overall quality of most of the flower out there has gone down over the years and the prices/taxes inside stores are ridiculous.

I just remember all of the herb in my area back around 2005 to 2010 being super high quality stuff...Extremely loud/pungent aroma. The buds were actually resinous and sticky & oily & greasy, breaking up a bud would have one's fingers totally gummed up & sticky with resin or they'd be coated with a sheen of oil/grease, and the buds had tons of flavor that would coat one's mouth and would last all the way through a joint.

These days most weed I cross paths with doesn't have much of a "loud" pungent aroma (nothing like it used to). I rarely ever come across herb that is actually resinous and sticky/oily/greasy (unless I grow it myself), even buds that look completely frosted with resin aren't sticky or oily at all. And finding some herb with good rich flavor is super rare for me these days.






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Yea.. not being able to even see what you're getting cuz it's all prepackaged is kinda a bummer..





I hate that in California it has to be pre-packaged and that I'm not able to see or smell the herb before purchase.

It's so fucking stupid for so many different reasons.

I select herb based damn near solely on aroma alone, aroma is a key characteristic I use for judging and selecting the flower I want to smoke.

At the very least I want to see the herb, but with most packaging it's impossible to get a good look at the herb.

Also, most stores I've been to in California won't even allow me to hold or touch the package until after it has been purchased. As if I'm going to grab it out of their hands and run out the door with it :rolleyes: . The person at the register has to hold the package the entire time and I'm not even allowed to touch it, so I can't even get a good look at the package either before purchase :rolleyes: .

The entire system/framework of legal cannabis in California is fucking retarded.

So I grow my own...turns out better than most of what I see on the "black market" these days and certainly better than most of the crap sold in stores. And tremendously cheaper, costs me less than $1 a gram.






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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: openmind]
    #27104222 - 12/23/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's a brand called "Pacific Stone." They sell prepackaged flower. NOTHING they sell is more than 19% thc. The STANDARD for thc has been 20% at the BARE minimum ever since the 90s/early 2000s. The flower looks and smells pretty but it doesn't get you baked.

How can it be 2020 yet these weed growers are only producing 10%-19% bud???? Are they purposefully growing low potency weed for some reason?


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: openmind]
    #27104251 - 12/23/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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....I hate that weed has been commodified so greatly because a lot of love has been lost. I like it being legal but there's so much GMO crap going around, not to mention the prices...





I am not aware of any cannabis strains that are considered GMO/genetically modified.

I'm pretty certain all strains of cannabis these days are the result of breeding/crossing various genetics, and not actually the result of tinkering with the genetics/code directly.




Inducing polyploidy with something like colchicine could be seen as a form of genetic modification, but I don't know about gene splicing type stuff.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: psi]
    #27104276 - 12/23/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's gmo hemp.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #27104348 - 12/23/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's a brand called "Pacific Stone." They sell prepackaged flower. NOTHING they sell is more than 19% thc. The STANDARD for thc has been 20% at the BARE minimum ever since the 90s/early 2000s. The flower looks and smells pretty but it doesn't get you baked.

How can it be 2020 yet these weed growers are only producing 10%-19% bud???? Are they purposefully growing low potency weed for some reason?



That sounds great to me! I'd love to smoke a good j that won't entirely melt my brain.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #27104376 - 12/23/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Some people have had recreational marijuana legal in their state for so many years that they are getting tired of it, and yet in my State Recreational Marijuana is not yet legalized. Such a different polar opposite of the extremes. I want it legalized so badly and some people are bored of it already. The extreme of the exact opposites. Such extreme differences between me and OP. We are so extremely different people.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #27104380 - 12/23/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

it will be constantly debated by scientists, I dont want GMO weed tho, even if the genes are from weed.

There is a cannabis hormone that increases THC production, im fine with that.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #27104396 - 12/23/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Some people have had recreational marijuana legal in their state for so many years that they are getting tired of it, and yet in my State Recreational Marijuana is not yet legalized. Such a different polar opposite of the extremes. I want it legalized so badly and some people are bored of it already. The extreme of the exact opposites. Such extreme differences between me and OP. We are so extremely different people.



Right? My state is like that, as well. The medical card holders can't even buy bud from the dispensaries. It's stupid and it pisses me off.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #27104449 - 12/23/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

"Dubs" and "bricks" :haha:
Takes me back.....

I've been smoking since the mid nineties and recently I've been getting bored with it. I don't feel like I'm getting really high anymore. Maybe it is because the THC is so much the focus and the other cannabinoids get bred out. I don't know. But I am always on the hunt for landrace strains to grow for those 'other' beneficial cannabinoids. I got some old seeds (I think Mexican sativa from the 80's) from my aunt but they weren't stored properly and I haven't had any success germinating them. I put a few in the freezer to see if they'd wake up, but to no avail.

Maybe my tolerance is too high. I guess I'll never know :crazy:


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: psi]
    #27104539 - 12/23/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's a brand called "Pacific Stone." They sell prepackaged flower. NOTHING they sell is more than 19% thc. The STANDARD for thc has been 20% at the BARE minimum ever since the 90s/early 2000s. The flower looks and smells pretty but it doesn't get you baked.

How can it be 2020 yet these weed growers are only producing 10%-19% bud???? Are they purposefully growing low potency weed for some reason?





TBH...back towards the end of this last summer and early fall when I had ran out of the flower I grew the previous summer, that "Pacific Stone" brand is what I was getting for a little while for some cheap smoke.

I, and the stores I purchase it from, consider that brand to be bottom shelf weed or damn near bottom shelf, it's the lowest priced stuff they carry...But I was getting it for $16 an 8th out the door ($12 before tax), and for that price I found it to be decent weed (at least the strains I got and the "batch" that I got were decent, tho I found their "Sour" to be garbage). Their "Orange" was pretty good and so was their "Banjo", Wedding Cake, Glue, & Sherb.

I don't really get hung up on the THC percentage too much. A true 15% to 20% weed can still get me pretty stoned, I feel that a lot of THC % numbers are inflated & exaggerated. The lowest I've seen & smoked from a store was 12%, it was some "Lemon Tree" if I remember correctly, and it still got me high...I've had 14%/16% weed get me as high if not higher than stuff that was labeled 22%/24%, and 20% weed get me as high or higher than stuff that was tested at 27%+....I hear ya tho, there's been a few times I've got herb from the store and it felt like it had very little potency to it regardless of what the # on the label said.

That brand, and another brand called "Elyon", at around $15 to $20 out the door for an 8th are actually pretty alright. I talk a lot of doo-doo on the legal market and I have my reasons, but at that price-point I found those brands to have decent quality flower most of the time during the couple months I had to buy from a store...But I have also seen those brands priced around $20 to $30+ per 8th at some stores which I feel is a bit overpriced for what one is getting.






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....I hate that weed has been commodified so greatly because a lot of love has been lost. I like it being legal but there's so much GMO crap going around, not to mention the prices...





I am not aware of any cannabis strains that are considered GMO/genetically modified.

I'm pretty certain all strains of cannabis these days are the result of breeding/crossing various genetics, and not actually the result of tinkering with the genetics/code directly.




Inducing polyploidy with something like colchicine could be seen as a form of genetic modification, but I don't know about gene splicing type stuff.





Interesting...I actually wasn't aware of that being a thing that could be done lol.

I'm not aware of any strains that were developed that way but from my very short bit of reading about it it does seem like some folks have toyed around with it.






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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #27104565 - 12/23/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Some people have had recreational marijuana legal in their state for so many years that they are getting tired of it, and yet in my State Recreational Marijuana is not yet legalized. Such a different polar opposite of the extremes. I want it legalized so badly and some people are bored of it already. The extreme of the exact opposites. Such extreme differences between me and OP. We are so extremely different people.




I think you and some others may be misunderstanding my lack of interest.  The root of the disinterest and eventual boredom doesn't have anything to do with tired of state legalization, over saturation exposure or anything like that. 

My lack of interest stems directly from the immediate physical and mental effects i've gotten in the past few years.  Every time i've smoked, it's been a horrible experience.  Being high makes now just me feel absolutely insane and/or paranoid, and not relaxed and chill like it used too. 

Weed consumption, in some form was a really big part of my 'identity' for many years, not in a Bob Marley Hot Topic potleaf poster way, but something that I loved for many years, and could always enjoy and somewhere along the line it stopped working like that.

I am attributing it to either sky high THC levels, or just change in brain chemistry.  Who knows.  I think it be great if I could get those original feelings again, but it may not happen. 

Some suggest the tolerance thing (that now you have to build up to get the good effects), but I recently talked to a close friend about this and he said pretty much the same thing happened to him (negative effects), even with a tolerance. 

I figured a market that produced low to very low THC strains would be super popular in today's climate, or at least more common than what it is. like the 'light beer' or 'sessionable' of weed, maybe not?  Weed that gives you a nice buzz, but doesn't send you into a full on psychedelic mind fuck after 2 hits.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #27104578 - 12/23/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Well I for one am shooting for psychedelicness with weed.

My biggest paranoid freak moments have directly preceded my best weed highs/ weed feelings.

It seems really bad and really good actually arent all that far apart.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
    #27104648 - 12/23/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

@Rumble I've been in that situation before, like full panic attack mode. It happened the first time a buddy smoked me up with some Colorado medical back in 2012. My tolerance was at ground level and I took 3 bonghits and was fucked.
That's why I stick to one-hitters because I can moderate my dose better. The bud today jumps on you with a vengeance. Even sticking with one toke I usually need a few beers to keep from getting paranoid when I start up after a break from it.


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Re: Does anyone else not enjoy or care about weed anymore? [Re: openmind]
    #27104669 - 12/23/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Before I found my black market dealer I was getting ounces of Pacific stone for $120 before taxes and about $140 after taxes. It was the only fucking weed in the dispensary that was the least expensive but still tasted good. There is this other brand called Eighth Brothers for the same price but their weed is very horribly cured and it makes me cough a lot because it is too harsh. Again, like, how can it be 2020 and people are still not curing the bud that they grow correctly? What the fuck reality are potheads living in nowadays? Like are you serious you think you can grow fucking weed and then do the shittiest job curing it so it makes you fucking cough like hell and you think you can sell that and profit off of it? What the fuck. Really pisses me off.

I bought that eighth brother shit one time and then the next time I went to that dispensary I spoke with the manager and I told him that they shouldn't be selling horribly cured bud that just makes you cough a lot. He gave me a good discount on the next ounce that I bought from Pacific Stone.

The forbidden fruit from Pacific stone is the 10% bullshit. I used to not worry about THC percentage because all the bud was pretty good before 2017 but after all this packaging and shit I've been paying more attention to percentages and it really does make a difference. It really needs to be at least 15%. Any lower than that and you might get high but the high will not last more than an hour. Anything lower than 20% is not going to get me baked. I like anywhere between 20 to 25% THC. Any higher than that and the high is too cerebral and energetic.


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