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Enigma Hate it or Love it 6
#27093825 - 12/17/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok so I’ve seen a few guys say Enigma “seems like a waste of time, effort, and material”. And it definitely is...in small tubs. It really just depends on your opinion. If you don’t like it then don’t do it but if you do like it and can get your hands on a culture then I highly recommend trying this kind of tub for it. A friend of mine came up with the idea and I think it’s the perfect way to run Enigma. (I am not a pro. I consider myself still a noob. But I do know how to grow a shroom or two) Unfortunately I will not be able to send out cultures of Enigma. Y’all are resourceful people, I’m sure you can come up with some.
I use this kind of tub (sterilite is my jam) https://m.sterilite.com/mobile.html?id=945&ProductCategory=305§ion=1 (My friend chose the ziploc brand but the pics show hole placement) you can see the holes are about the size of a quarter.
 I haven’t tried polyfil but mp tape works great. It seems like fae doesn’t need as much attention as regular cubes. I’m not a fan of tape I prefer poly but for this tape is what’s up. I just put two layers over the hole and remove a layer later on when it starts “finning” aka pinning.
Get your clean spawn

I use coir/verm/gyp (imo keeping it simple is the way to go. No need to add extra shit all willy nilly) When I spawn my E tubs I like to use 4 quarts with an extra quart to sprinkle on top so 5 quarts and you’re good (I’ve used up to 6 quarts of spawn in these tubs). Mix your spawn (I tend to eyeball it but a 1:2 ratio is fine, it’s really your preference). Like I said I sprinkle the last quart over the top of the sub. Then I like to put another layer of cvg on top of that. I put my tubs on a shelf straight into “fruiting conditions”. 12/12 light cycle with 6500k bulbs. I don’t mist or fan. Totally set and forget. I probably don’t even need to remove the second layer of mp tape when it starts finning but I do.
E finning on plates

Enigma finning
 More E
 
I’ve done big monotubs, small mono’s, and shoeboxes (horrible idea). With Enigma bigger is better. Big shallow tubs. This is all mine and my friends opinion but it works great every time. If you choose to play with E maybe you’ll give this tub a try. Mush love everyone take care✌️
Edited by B21 (05/21/21 01:04 PM)
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pureshrooming
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21]
#27093888 - 12/17/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't get the hate, I think they are pretty cool. Do they keep their shape at all when dried?
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GrinchGrower
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Is the potency by weight comparable to most cubes or closer to like PE?
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bw86
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I would love that enigma if i can get my hands on it.
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B21
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Quote:
pureshrooming said: I don't get the hate, I think they are pretty cool. Do they keep their shape at all when dried?
I think it’s pretty cool too. Those gifs are dried chunks.
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GrinchGrower said: Is the potency by weight comparable to most cubes or closer to like PE?
Everyone that takes them says they’re very potent like PE. A few people told me they’re better than PE. I don’t trip anymore. I just like to watch them grow.
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coversall
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21] 2
#27093978 - 12/17/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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B21 said: I don’t trip anymore. I just like to watch them grow.
Is this the end game? The pure joy of growing actives with no desire to trip?
How does it feel to be enlightened?
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B21
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: coversall]
#27093988 - 12/17/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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coversall said:
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B21 said: I don’t trip anymore. I just like to watch them grow.
Is this the end game? The pure joy of growing actives with no desire to trip?
How does it feel to be enlightened?
Lol idk man I’m just a pot smoking kind of guy. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had some awesome mushroom trips though. I’m sure I will again someday
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21]
#27094227 - 12/17/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would love to be gifted a culture of that.
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: Sunny Skies]
#27094336 - 12/17/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like it would be a fun one to start.
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pincheburro
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i think OP may be referencing a comment i made in the marketplace? if so, the reason i essentially said i wasn't a fan is because they are soooo slow, i mean like a slow growing PE thats also 80 yrs old and using a walker slow. which can lead to more time for contamination to take over, some of the " fruits" either aborted or just kinda died off and got kinda mushy like an abort which seemed to happen all of the sudden. i assume all the cultures floating around are the same, just cloned, since it doesnt spore? and if it did id assume revert? so maybe it was my sub if others have had better / faster growth? i think theres something to how slow a cube fruits and its potency which would make sense why enigma might be more potent than PE, which is cool. and enigma id definitely very cool looking, but i think with the time and effort it takes to fruit enigma, a person could produce a lot more " normal " cubes and use less product. cool novelty to try once but thats where it ends for me. hope this helps explain a little better
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B21
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: pincheburro]
#27095227 - 12/18/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It’s all good man. I did see your comment in the marketplace post but you’re not the only one lol. It’s a novelty type of joint, some like some dont but it really doesn’t matter either way as long as the person with it is enjoying themselves. Mush love y’all ✌️
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coversall
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21] 1
#27095328 - 12/18/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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B21 said:
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coversall said:
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B21 said: I don’t trip anymore. I just like to watch them grow.
Is this the end game? The pure joy of growing actives with no desire to trip?
How does it feel to be enlightened?
Lol idk man I’m just a pot smoking kind of guy. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had some awesome mushroom trips though. I’m sure I will again someday
Haha, I'm with you, I get as much pleasure out of the growing as I do the eating. I produce way more than I need just for the fun of it. I wish I could still smoke weed, but that stuff sends my mind in unhelpful directions these days. Funnily it seems to be the only drug that does it.
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: coversall]
#27095354 - 12/18/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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coversall said:
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B21 said:
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coversall said:
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B21 said: I don’t trip anymore. I just like to watch them grow.
Is this the end game? The pure joy of growing actives with no desire to trip?
How does it feel to be enlightened?
Lol idk man I’m just a pot smoking kind of guy. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had some awesome mushroom trips though. I’m sure I will again someday
Haha, I'm with you, I get as much pleasure out of the growing as I do the eating. I produce way more than I need just for the fun of it. I wish I could still smoke weed, but that stuff sends my mind in unhelpful directions these days. Funnily it seems to be the only drug that does it.
100% same with me, smoked weed for years every day. Quited smoking around 3 years ago, get same results like u do, but I get just these problems from Weed, rest is absolutely fine.
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: Schemenhaft]
#27132236 - 01/07/21 05:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love enigma, hope I could be gifted someday.
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Mycodog
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Hey man just found your thread via the search. Got my first clean enigma transferring on plates atm. Trying to read up on the conditions it needs when fruiting.
Do you do a total of 5 quarts grains for a 37q tub like that? +Another 10 quart CVG?
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B21
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: Mycodog]
#27187359 - 02/05/21 03:22 AM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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I use 4-6 quarts of spawn for a tub like this. 4 will work but I prefer 5. 6 at the most. I use one jar of spawn to sprinkle over the top after I’ve mixed 4or5 quarts with cvg, then I add a top layer of cvg. I eyeball the substrate. I just bring it up to right under the air exchange holes.
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21]
#27187377 - 02/05/21 03:58 AM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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Man I've been wanting to get my hands on some of this since I first saw it, most aesthetically pleasing mushroom I've ever seen. Also want to find a way to harvest and preserve it so I can hang it on the wall, maybe epoxy or something
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21]
#27187397 - 02/05/21 04:45 AM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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Awesome thanks for the awesome write-up and explanation!!
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Re: Enigma Hate it or Love it [Re: B21]
#27267017 - 03/24/21 06:46 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I finally got enigma and it is taking forever. How long after putting into fruiting condition do you see the finning?
I hAve an 18qt tub. I will have to try the shallow tub next
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B21
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A couple weeks or less.. patience. Just wait..
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